2. The People do not approve of either the Democrat or the Republican agenda, and wish to keep Washington pretty much shut down until the People do figure out just exactly what that they do approve of. Sort of a 'keep the two beasts fighting each other until we can figure out how to get rid of them both' sort of thing.


I dont know about anyone else, Buts that how I damn well feel. All washington cares about is THEM. They dont gve a flying hoot about US.

Even though Im a rebuplican, I sure wish a man like Harry Truman would stand up and run. Im sick of the mealy mouthed sound bite play to the crowd idiots we have now.

Maybe then the buck would not get shoved up our posteriers.

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Old James

Back to the subject of the thread (not gonna touch the racist stuff).

Sorry I am a few days late posting this, but I've been busy. I also voted. I voted early on the second or third day of early voting. I had to drop off some library books I read to my kids, and the early voting location was in that building, so why not.

The more I think about the results of the Federal races, the more I can see only one mandate possible. The collective Will of the People voted to preserve a Republican majority in the House, a Democrat majority in the Senate, and to retain the current occupant of the White House (a Democrat).

The mandate was for the Status Quo. You know, partisan paralysis and gridlock. If the People wanted something done, they would have voted differently. If the People had favored the Republican's agenda, they would have given the Republicans the Senate and the White House. If the People had favored the Democrat's agenda they would have given the Democrats the House.

Why would the People want more partisan infighting and gridlock? I have no hard evidence, but I do have a couple of theories on the subject.

1. The People are depressed, and need more of the high comedy and political theater that has been coming out of Washington these last few years. In an era where many of the People get their news from Comedy Central, this makes as much sense as anything else.

2. The People do not approve of either the Democrat or the Republican agenda, and wish to keep Washington pretty much shut down until the People do figure out just exactly what that they do approve of. Sort of a 'keep the two beasts fighting each other until we can figure out how to get rid of them both' sort of thing.

3. The Democrats and the Republicans have each bought and paid for a portion of the electorate, and this is the way things shook out this time. <- this one is probably most likely, in my opinion.

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Now, in the few days since the election I have heard calls from both Republicans and Democrats to move towards the center and get things done. Why? This would be a direct perversion of the Will of the People.

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#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.

Why do you think we burnt the White House down? You wouldn't listen then so what makes us think you'll listen now? :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYiDC04Q5lk

They've given me a mission
I don't really know the game yet
I'm bent on submission
Religion is to blame
I'm the new messiah
Death angel with a gun
Dangerous in my silence
Deadly to my cause

CHORUS
Speak to me the pain you feel
Speak the word
The word is all of us

I've given my life to become what I am
to preach the new beginning
To make you understand
To reach some point of order
Utopia in mind, you've got to learn
To sacrifice, to leave what's now behind

CHORUS

Seven years of power
the corporation claw
The rich control the government, the media the law
To make some kind of difference
Then everyone must know
Eradicate the fascists, revolution will grow
The system we learn says we're equal under law
But the streets are reality, the weak and poor will fall
Let's tip the power balance and tear down the crown
Educate the masses, we'll burn the White House down
CHORUS

Angela for Alameda County Board of Supervisors!

The nuclear wessels? In Alameda?

And before you give me any ####, just remember that about 48% of the US voters agree with ME, you damned, ignorant, snotty liberals.

I may be "damned" and I may be "snotty", but I personally take issue with the charge of "ignorant".

+1.
And he and so many have so much figuring out who the true liberals are.

It has been my experience, at least in the SF Bay area, that crazy-busy people lean left.

Or at least independent!
Sure have to wonder about a few that have time to post so much, eh?

You mean the same effect as your various screeds here? <smile>.

+1

+ another 41 = positive 42.

It's not intended to. The college, being based on the number of congresspeople (both Representatives and Senators) a state sends to DC is deliberately skewed to favor low population states. As the President is executive leader of a federation of states, it's the states that decide who will hold the office.

Well that is one of your problems as I see it. Far too many State Governors think they are God Almighty and run their State like a private fiefdom or dictatorship. Whatever happened to democracy?

Bobby is correct on this one. And it is not the State Governors that have the power to appoint the Presidential electors. That power is given to the State legislatures ONLY. And as the US Constitution requires the several State governments to be Republics, just as it does the Federal government, where is the problem? The People, after all, voted for 'their' members of their state's legislature, just as they vote for 'their' members of Congress. Where is the problem?

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#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.

49 percent of Americans live in households that receive some form of government benefits...based on data from 2010...A significant proportion of government assistance comes in the form of Social Security and Medicare...“means-tested” programs, such as food stamps, Medicaid, and housing assistance, around 35 percent

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2012/09/romney_says_47_percent_of_americans_receive_direct_government_assistance_is_that_true_.html

So, only about 1/3. The American people voted to bump that up Tuesday night.

Oh dear, so Social security and medicare is included in your statistic, and you think that counts as an entitlement program????

Social Security and Medicare ARE entitlements.

Yes, apparently ones you are not on board with, even though (I hope) you've been paying into it your whole life.

They are entitlements as long as they are funded with Ponzi Scheme level funding. Now if an actuary calculated the funding level year to year and the contributions for a year matched that calculation, then you could call them a pension and insurance, until then, Ponzi Scheme entitlement is the correct label.

The way our politicicans have abused it, I can agree. If I understand the way it was setup, That money we (volunteerd) was never meant to be put used or put in the general fund. It was for social security only. Just like our SS number was never to be used as ID.
Ive seen some people use the term that Americans dont have to carry a national ID . Well an SS card is that ID.

I ask any politician perusing this forum. If you can fund stupid wars to the tune of trillions of dollars why cant you make SS solvent? Why cant you just pay back all the money you have ripped out of SS over the years to pay for stupid wars? Just give SS one trillion dollars and lets see hpw that works out over the next 50 years.

And as far as an entitlement, Gary as long as I have to pay into the ponzi scheme its my damn right to get back what I stinking put in.

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49 percent of Americans live in households that receive some form of government benefits...based on data from 2010...A significant proportion of government assistance comes in the form of Social Security and Medicare...“means-tested” programs, such as food stamps, Medicaid, and housing assistance, around 35 percent

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2012/09/romney_says_47_percent_of_americans_receive_direct_government_assistance_is_that_true_.html

So, only about 1/3. The American people voted to bump that up Tuesday night.

Oh dear, so Social security and medicare is included in your statistic, and you think that counts as an entitlement program????

Social Security and Medicare ARE entitlements.

Yes, apparently ones you are not on board with, even though (I hope) you've been paying into it your whole life.

They are entitlements as long as they are funded with Ponzi Scheme level funding. Now if an actuary calculated the funding level year to year and the contributions for a year matched that calculation, then you could call them a pension and insurance, until then, Ponzi Scheme entitlement is the correct label.

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Guy, your walking on thin ice with the racist thing, we are all venerable including those with Hispanic surnames.

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49 percent of Americans live in households that receive some form of government benefits...based on data from 2010...A significant proportion of government assistance comes in the form of Social Security and Medicare...“means-tested” programs, such as food stamps, Medicaid, and housing assistance, around 35 percent

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2012/09/romney_says_47_percent_of_americans_receive_direct_government_assistance_is_that_true_.html

So, only about 1/3. The American people voted to bump that up Tuesday night.

Oh dear, so Social security and medicare is included in your statistic, and you think that counts as an entitlement program????

Social Security and Medicare ARE entitlements.

Yes, apparently ones you are not on board with, even though (I hope) you've been paying into it your whole life.

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#resist

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So, 50% of the US is on welfare now????? Wow I never knew.

Yeah, right, you didn't have a clue.

Probably getting close to the Obama vote totals.......why would they bite the hand?

I'll reiterate. The biggest chunk of your so called "entitlement people", are receiving Social Security and Medicare...

If you want these things cut hey more power to you. You are much closer to retiring than me, I will have time to explore alternatives, will you or all the nations other retirees?

I cannot believe you right wing nuts group retirees collecting their SS, in with welfare recipients. More uninformed idiocy.

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#resist

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So, 50% of the US is on welfare now????? Wow I never knew.

Yeah, right, you didn't have a clue.

Probably getting close to the Obama vote totals.......why would they bite the hand?

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