Just a note because of the PROXY usage ..

You know that you use a PC or server of someone else for to reach S@h then?

If it's a *bad* person, maybe he read all this what you send/receive.

No?

I could imagine that this could happen.

With every scheduler contact you send your *account key* to S@h.

With help of this *account key* this person could log in in your account here then.


Only for advanced members:
At least ..
I would edit the account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml file.
In the line <authenticator> I would insert the *weak account key*.


* Best regards! :-) * Sutaru Tsureku, team seti.international founder. * Optimize your PC for higher RAC. * SETI@home needs your help. *

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I've just had my 200 tasks marked up as abandoned, all at 16 Nov 2012 | 22:28:46 UTC, strange as this was between scheduler contacts:

16/11/2012 22:25:19 SETI@home [sched_op_debug] Starting scheduler request
16/11/2012 22:25:19 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
16/11/2012 22:25:19 SETI@home Requesting new tasks for CPU and GPU
16/11/2012 22:25:19 SETI@home [sched_op_debug] CPU work request: 228077.80 seconds; 0.00 CPUs
16/11/2012 22:25:19 SETI@home [sched_op_debug] NVIDIA GPU work request: 255253.39 seconds; 0.00 GPUs
16/11/2012 22:25:19 SETI@home [sched_op_debug] ATI GPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 GPUs
16/11/2012 22:25:30 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
16/11/2012 22:25:30 SETI@home [sched_op_debug] Server version 701
16/11/2012 22:25:30 SETI@home Message from server: No tasks sent
16/11/2012 22:25:30 SETI@home Message from server: No tasks are available for AstroPulse v6
16/11/2012 22:25:30 SETI@home Message from server: Tasks for AMD/ATI GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
16/11/2012 22:25:30 SETI@home Message from server: This computer has reached a limit on tasks in progress
16/11/2012 22:25:30 SETI@home Message from server: Project has no tasks available
16/11/2012 22:25:30 SETI@home Project requested delay of 303 seconds
16/11/2012 22:25:30 SETI@home [sched_op_debug] Deferring communication for 5 min 3 sec
16/11/2012 22:25:30 SETI@home [sched_op_debug] Reason: requested by project


16/11/2012 22:30:37 SETI@home [sched_op_debug] Starting scheduler request
16/11/2012 22:30:37 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
16/11/2012 22:30:37 SETI@home Requesting new tasks for CPU and GPU
16/11/2012 22:30:37 SETI@home [sched_op_debug] CPU work request: 222742.75 seconds; 0.00 CPUs
16/11/2012 22:30:37 SETI@home [sched_op_debug] NVIDIA GPU work request: 255610.56 seconds; 0.00 GPUs
16/11/2012 22:30:37 SETI@home [sched_op_debug] ATI GPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 GPUs
16/11/2012 22:30:59 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
16/11/2012 22:30:59 SETI@home [sched_op_debug] Server version 701
16/11/2012 22:30:59 SETI@home Message from server: Not sending work - last request too recent: 128 sec
16/11/2012 22:30:59 SETI@home Project requested delay of 303 seconds
16/11/2012 22:30:59 SETI@home [sched_op_debug] Deferring communication for 5 min 3 sec
16/11/2012 22:30:59 SETI@home [sched_op_debug] Reason: requested by project

I've reset the project to get rid of all the abandoned work, and now have a fresh 200 tasks to crunch.

Claggy

I've just had my 200 tasks marked up as abandoned, all at 16 Nov 2012 | 22:28:46 UTC, strange as this was between scheduler contacts:

15 Nov 2012 | 18:09:02 UTC the Scheduler decalred 200 of mine abandoned also, not long after i started using a proxy.
So far it's been just that one instance, but apparently some people have had multiple instances of WUs been declared abandoned.

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Grant
Darwin NT

I have found that when my scheduler requests time out or downloads hang...if I suspend networking for about 20 seconds then re-enable,
I am then connected right away and see average DL speeds of 30kbs ... done it five times now just to be sure I was not self conjuring a pattern.

Edit : I forgot to mention ,You must also dance around your host whilst chanting ancient Aztec blessings. j,k on that last part , the other thing does work for me though.

OK, over the last hour on one of my systems the Scheduler has timed out on all but 2 requests- both of those got resends. Prior to that all work received for the last 24hrs or so had been new work.
EDIT- even requests for work, but not reporting, are timing out.

On the other system, about 50% of the requests over the last hour and a half have timed out.

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Grant
Darwin NT

I have found that when my scheduler requests time out or downloads hang...if I suspend networking for about 20 seconds then re-enable,
I am then connected right away and see average DL speeds of 30kbs ... done it five times now just to be sure I was not self conjuring a pattern.

That's been the case for downloads for several years now, and sometimes with uploads as well. If they stall, or don't actually start even once the timer starts counting then disabling & re-enabling network access usually gets them going again.
I haven't had any luck with the Scheduler timeouts though.

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Grant
Darwin NT

Just a note because of the PROXY usage ..

You know that you use a PC or server of someone else for to reach S@h then?

If it's a *bad* person, maybe he read all this what you send/receive.

No?

I could imagine that this could happen.

With every scheduler contact you send your *account key* to S@h.

With help of this *account key* this person could log in in your account here then.


Only for advanced members:
At least ..
I would edit the account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml file.
In the line <authenticator> I would insert the *weak account key*.

How would the weak key help security? What is the overall sequence of messages here with the account key?

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Getting more & more Scheduler timeouts, then eventually it responds & resends the lost tasks.

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Grant
Darwin NT

My desktops and newer notebooks with Nvidia graphics cards are getting work now after changing them all over to proxy servers. My little laptops with integrated graphics are not getting new work anymore and timing out. My i3 notebook is timing out, told there is no work, and has reached it's limits for jobs in progress. Lots of ghosts. The integrated graphic card notebooks started to have big issues with downloading work today and are fast running out of work. I'll try to keep my desktops and new notebook going, but I am not going to intervene anymore manually with the upload and download problems with my slightly older notebooks.

I hope Seti at Home can work these networking/scheduler and ghost issues out. Am switching the 2 and 3 year old notebooks over to other BOINC projects like world community grid and a cosmology project or two. These issues have to be affecting a huge number of volunteers, as in hundreds of thousands. Many of us are making hundreds and thousands of dollars of in-kind donations. Very important and critical good will is being lost here by letting these upload and download issues to remain unaddressed and low priority. I hope project leaders understand how large an impact this loss of good will is going to be. Please listen to what many of us are saying here. We are among your most dedicated.

Brother Frank

How would the weak key help security? What is the overall sequence of messages here with the account key?

See here. With the normal authenticator you can log into your account and steal it by changing the email adress and password, with the weak one you can just crunch for this account. It's not a big issue since criminals probably have better things to do than stealing other people's BOINC accounts, but why not improve the security if there's an easy way?

Are there some disadvantages when using the weak account key for your computers?

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Not much to say except the kitties are now starting to do Einstein as their GPUs run dry of Seti work until this mess is fixed.

Not a happy time for the kittyman.

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

Not much to say except the kitties are now starting to do Einstein as their GPUs run dry of Seti work until this mess is fixed.

Not a happy time for the kittyman.

And Einstein is in a planned outage ...

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Did anybody else see the validating pendings are rising to an very high value?

Mine are at (18804) and rissing > 100/hr.

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Not much to say except the kitties are now starting to do Einstein as their GPUs run dry of Seti work until this mess is fixed.

Not a happy time for the kittyman.

And Einstein is in a planned outage ...

Due to end 2 PM Milwaukee time (CST, UTC-6), if anybody's wondering.

http://www4.uwm.edu/technology/itstatus/index.cfm?a1=details&item_id=17216

Not much to say except the kitties are now starting to do Einstein as their GPUs run dry of Seti work until this mess is fixed.

Not a happy time for the kittyman.

And Einstein is in a planned outage ...

Due to end 2 PM Milwaukee time (CST, UTC-6), if anybody's wondering.

http://www4.uwm.edu/technology/itstatus/index.cfm?a1=details&item_id=17216

They were planning to keep the core servers running on UPS, but it's failed, so they've had to shut them down.

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=7102&nowrap=true#46333

Claggy

I'm probably missing something somewhere, but has anyone from the project made any sort of statement or whether the ongoing issues are even being looked at? I can't find anything. Nothing on the home page, which would take someone like two minutes to post. Or anything on the 'News' board. Another two minutes. Tops. If it's there, I can't find it. The appearance is that the staff has buried their heads in the sand. And in the middle of the fund raising drive, that's a dangerous appearance. I increased my donation this year and was planing to add to that in December. Very much questioning that now. I'm not expecting miracles, I realize they have major constraints. But the silence is deafening

I am wondering if it is possible that the router at the PAIX that went rogue on us before Eric added memory to it has gone bonkers again........

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

It seems that way to me as well, LOTS of end user speculation and suggestions. Some folks saying those who are making suggestions should let the folks back at the shop resolve the problem without the diversion of folks making guesses -- which I'd condone if we had some firm answer that the project folks are aware there is a problem and they are trying first to sift tea leaves to divine the problem and then will proceed to engage the random number generator to attempt to resolve ir (of course this would be couched in much more technical terms) <smile>. Instead we are left to speculate, ruminate, gesticulate and agitate.

I'm probably missing something somewhere, but has anyone from the project made any sort of statement or whether the ongoing issues are even being looked at? I can't find anything. Nothing on the home page, which would take someone like two minutes to post. Or anything on the 'News' board. Another two minutes. Tops. If it's there, I can't find it. The appearance is that the staff has buried their heads in the sand. And in the middle of the fund raising drive, that's a dangerous appearance. I increased my donation this year and was planing to add to that in December. Very much questioning that now. I'm not expecting miracles, I realize they have major constraints. But the silence is deafening

I THIS IS MY FIRST TIME

WHAT I THINK IS IF YOU LOOK AT RESULTS IN THE FIELD ..IT IS GOING DOWN SO UNTIL ALL RESEND ARE DONE THE LIMITS WILL STAY ON AT 100 FOR ALL OF US...AND THE RESULT WAITING FOR VALIDATION WILL BE GOING UP.

BEST THING TO DO IS CHRUNCHING AS FAST AS WE CAN AND THE LIMITS WILL BE LEFT FOR ALL.

JEAN

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Once again, ran out of GPU work overnight on both systems- all Scheduler requests resulting in a timeout.


Still trying proxies- results mostly include & whole new bunch of errors when trying to contact the Scheduler- couldn't connect to server, transfered a partial file, failure when recieving data from the peer etc.

Still looking for a new decent proxy- when i finally do make contact with the Scheduler, i then need to bypass the proxy to be able to download the work.

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Grant
Darwin NT