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Why no English food restaurants in the USA?
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Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
We have Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Thai, Italian, German, Mexican and other ethnic food style eateries in thr USA but I have never seen an English, Scottish, Welch or Irish restaurant. I think American style cooking and meal selections are not much like what is eaten in those places so I wonder why no one specializes, other than some fish & chips places, in English food? I also rule out Irish and Scottish Pubs as they are primarily drinking establishments. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
I would have thought that a fish and chips outlet might have been popular, and maybe a traditional English meat & two veg one restaurant, but it appears not. Maybe they just wouldn't be economically viable?Maybe there are just US versions of the 'over the pond' thingys that have become more traditional here? I must admit, I have never had a traditional version of 'fish and chips' I suspect. Or few other thingys that you condsider culinary delights. Like the 'bangers and mash' I have heard so much about. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Nothing special about bangers & mash just sausages and potatoes. Same as Bubble & Squeak, potato and cabbages. Oh and don't forget t'mushy peas! I think there is room here for a franchise...... Wanna go in on it? We could be the next billionaires..... Let's call it 'Kibbles and Bits'... Whot ya think, mate? "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Nice idea but I think Harry Ramsdens has beaten us to it! Always a beat behind, am I. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34041 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Lint trap Send message Joined: 30 May 03 Posts: 871 Credit: 28,092,319 RAC: 0 |
Well, there are a few "Arthur Treacher's Fish & Chips" restaurants still around, though not nearly as many today as there was in the 80's (IIRC). I used to occasionally get lunch there on Chestnut St in Philly. That location closed before I left that area...but, surprisingly there are a couple locations still remaining here in the mid East Coast states. Lt |
Carlos Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 29752 Credit: 57,275,487 RAC: 157 |
We have one called the Tea Cozy Down in Solvang there's the Mustard Seed and in Santa Barbara there is: Dargan's more Irish, but the make a killer beef and mushroom pye, Mark's, Fish and Chips, and Renaud's a nuvo British steak house. |
Bill Walker Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 3868 Credit: 2,697,267 RAC: 0 |
Lots of fish & chip shops in Canada, and I've seen a few in the US. Lots of little tea rooms here as well. Basically, anyplace that sells boiled potatoes and overcooked vegetables is an English resteraunt, IMHO. |
Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 8240 Credit: 14,654,533 RAC: 20 |
There is also the Firkin Pub chain, which, despite its name, was more a restaurant than a bar (at least the one here in Visalia was, although it closed last summer). And the Elephant and Castle group. For fish & chips, there is the Long John Silver's chain (a part of YUM brands, who also own Pizza Hut, KFC, Taco Bell, and A&W Drive-ins). Not a match for the fish bars of Scotland, but still... One place I spent a lot of time in during my last two tours in San Diego was the Princess of Wales pub on India Street - Sausage rolls, Steak & kidney pie, Shepherd's pie, etc... But of course a fine selection of British Ales and Lagers to wash it down with. Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
We have a Polish-style restaurant here in Illinois called Warsaw that has some really good tasting food. I don't visit there as often as I'd like though. |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
I believe the term it falls under is "Continental Cuisine". It may be a combination of British, French, but we do have it. Honestly the Fish N Chips go over better with me. Janice |
Bill Walker Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 3868 Credit: 2,697,267 RAC: 0 |
I believe the term it falls under is "Continental Cuisine". It may be a combination of British, French, but we do have it. Careful there Soft, Brits get a little upset if you call them Continentals. In Canada for many years right after the war a "continental" label on a restaurant or bakery or deli was a code word for "German". |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65709 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
I believe the term it falls under is "Continental Cuisine". It may be a combination of British, French, but we do have it. Yeah they like to think of themselves as living on an island off of Europe, problem is all of the UK without exception is but a part of the European landmass or Continent and this has been way for millions of years, the only reason England, Wales and Scotland aren't connected by land anymore is the end of the last ice age eroded away the land in the channels and the Thames was but a tributary of a river system whose mouth was out in the North Sea, which back then was land, so technically the Brits are Continentals like Soft said, like it or not that's the truth and yes I'm part Brit Myself, so I feel no shame in admitting that. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
At least half a dozen in the Los Angeles area. Perhaps it is a west coast thing. They kept going west until they ran out of land? :) |
AllanB Send message Joined: 2 Sep 12 Posts: 282 Credit: 425,090 RAC: 0 |
I believe the term it falls under is "Continental Cuisine". It may be a combination of British, French, but we do have it. However most of us Brits feel no connection to the European Continent. Our food and culture are completely different from our nearest European neighbors. Nope I am British and proud of it. Call me European and I will sue!! :-) |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65709 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
I believe the term it falls under is "Continental Cuisine". It may be a combination of British, French, but we do have it. I'm part Irish, French and English, My English roots even include old branches of nobility... And yet I'm an American, although if My relatives had gone back to Canada after I was born I'd probably be Canadian and I share large parts of that culture, not to mention the language and I'm a Strawberry Blonde too(1-2% of the population)... The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Dimly Lit Lightbulb 😀 Send message Joined: 30 Aug 08 Posts: 15399 Credit: 7,423,413 RAC: 1 |
No "Fish 'an chips"? Oh dear :) Member of the People Encouraging Niceness In Society club. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65709 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
No "Fish 'an chips"? Oh dear :) Hey no fair Peking at My dinner... ;) The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
There were two pubs that served British style foods within walking of the last building I worked in. BOINC WIKI |
Grant Nelson Send message Joined: 7 May 12 Posts: 8022 Credit: 4,237,757 RAC: 0 |
London 63 darn good. |
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