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Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
I got a rather unusual reply from 1 person via PM today, rob99999_2 ID 129322, the owner of Computer 6797265, which produces nothing but errors from its GT 650M but here's his reply. i am not going to make a thread when i am not going to check it. I have downloaded ths lastest software and the lastest drivers so if there is any issues SETI needs to get their shit straight. Not a very nice attitude IMO. :( Cheers. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Some people are certainly hard to understand and I wonder if he even bothered read the link I gave him to Richard's thread to which I pointed out the 2nd part of his post as a possible solution for his problem. Cheers. |
WezH Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 576 Credit: 67,033,957 RAC: 95 |
I got a rather unusual reply from 1 person via PM today, rob99999_2 ID 129322, the owner of Computer 6797265, which produces nothing but errors from its GT 650M but here's his reply. Well... rob99999_2 is right. SETI needs to get their shit straight. I totally agree. Seti@Home crew should solve this problem. Not us, the volunteer crunchers. Seti@Home Beta is for testing applications. |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
I always care if my computers are generating garbage data or not. However I don't really need anyone whining to me about their tasks not getting validated if I have a machine that decides to trash it's whole cache of work. When I get a PM from someone about one of my machines generating invalid results it is normally several days or weeks after I have already corrected the machine. So I just add them to the ignore filter & go on my merry way. It seems people get far to wound up about things that was far outside of their control. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
Dimly Lit Lightbulb 😀 Send message Joined: 30 Aug 08 Posts: 15399 Credit: 7,423,413 RAC: 1 |
To help keep the Invalid Host Messaging thread clear here's a thread for the purposes of discussing the messages ONLY. And if you're going to swear please see this message as to what is acceptable. Member of the People Encouraging Niceness In Society club. |
TexasZeus Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 5 Credit: 20,226,094 RAC: 27 |
I was made aware my machine is churning away but not really accomplishing anything while crunching Seti. The trouble is I can't seem to determine exactly when it started or most importantly, how to stop it. Alll the other projects task are completing and running normally except Seti. Any help would be appreciated. Here are my latest Seti "results". State: All (3266) · In progress (631) · Validation pending (991) · Validation inconclusive (1448) · Valid (7) · Invalid (170) · Error (19) Application: All (3266) · Astropulse v505 (0) · AstroPulse v6 (0) · SETI@home Enhanced (3266) · SETI@home v7 (0) |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22190 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Texas - One thing that has struck me looking at your computer setup is that you are NOT running a "CUDA compatible" GPU, but you appear to have the CUDA drivers loaded. It could be that your computer is confused! Frist, make sure you don't have any Nvidia or CUDA drivers installed, and that you only have the drivers for your ATI card installed and running. This may help, but getting rid of unused drivers is always a "good idea", and sadly Windows is not very good at its house keeping when it comes to redundant drivers. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Terror Australis Send message Joined: 14 Feb 04 Posts: 1817 Credit: 262,693,308 RAC: 44 |
To a degree I agree with rob99999_2. It's obvious the stock app definitely has a problem dealing with the later cards and drivers and is badly in need of an overhaul. Remember, V6.10 was a bit of a kludge to begin with. It was hurriedly cobbled together when it was found that V6.09 didn't work with the then new Fermi cards and now history is repeating. The app is now 2 generations of GPU's out of date As someone gently reminded us in another thread BOINC and SAH are supposed to be "set and forget" programs and the the stock GPU app no longer fits this description. As those of us who have V6.10 running wingmen with insane numbers of invalid tasks are finding out. The stock app doesn't have to be the fastest but it does have to be robust and reliable. T.A. |
Horacio Send message Joined: 14 Jan 00 Posts: 536 Credit: 75,967,266 RAC: 0 |
I dont care what the message say, as long as it gives me the oportunity to know that something is going wrong its welcome anyway because even when I do regular checks, I cant do it every day in every host... But, I really hope a change in the way that BOINC deals with the limits on server side and also in the client side... I mean if a tasks is expected to take 2 hours and it takes just 10 secs, may be something is going wrong may be not, but if 1000 consecutive tasks that are supossed to last for 2 hours are finished in 10 secs then, for sure something is wrong, specially for GPU tasks... So an option in the client to automatically suspend the remaining tasks or to notify via GUI or via mail or ringing a bell or something alike would be a usefull thing... |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
To a degree I agree with rob99999_2. It's obvious the stock app definitely has a problem dealing with the later cards and drivers and is badly in need of an overhaul. +1 Whilst I might not have used rob99999_2's phrasing he should not have to jump through hoops just to get the basic app to run. One reason I have put my crunching to other uses. |
WezH Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 576 Credit: 67,033,957 RAC: 95 |
To a degree I agree with rob99999_2. It's obvious the stock app definitely has a problem dealing with the later cards and drivers and is badly in need of an overhaul. +1 for both messages No more Seti@Home for me. This is not "set and forget" project. Hopefully Seti@Home could get sponsor like World Community Grid has (IBM)... In My Dreams.... "Please keep Your signature under four lines so Internet traffic doesn't go up too much" - In 1992 when I had my first e-mail address - |
Tron Send message Joined: 16 Aug 09 Posts: 180 Credit: 2,250,468 RAC: 0 |
WezH wrote:
It can be ,... remember that it is always your choice to use the 'sometimes unstable' GPU in order to boost your RAC. IMO...In exchange for a higher RAC you opt into a certain unspoken "advanced user" status and therefore a greater expectation that you will keep your equipment in good working order, whether that is hardware or software related. It's all in how you "set it" |
TexasZeus Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 5 Credit: 20,226,094 RAC: 27 |
Well I think I might have just found the cause of my problem. I loaded some Microsoft software to watch Internet TV with Windows Media Center. I just uninstalled it and suspended my World Community Grid project to force Set@Home to run and it appears my 10 second turn around for WU's have stopped. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22190 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Texas - glad you've managed to track down the cause of your problems. I hope you can find another internet TV tool that won't crash S@H, so you can enjoy both TV and S@H. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
remember that it is always your choice to use the 'sometimes unstable' GPU in order to boost your RAC. Can you point me to where it tells users this? |
Tron Send message Joined: 16 Aug 09 Posts: 180 Credit: 2,250,468 RAC: 0 |
You can find that info implied here Rules And Policys |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
You can find that info implied here Rules And Policys Implied!! It never even mentions GPU's it is out of date. Show me where a new person starting to crunch for SETI@Home is told that the standard standard CUDA app may not work on all cards and definitely won't work on some. This should be on the main page and also a BOINC SETI@Home notice NVidia driver problems which cause computation errors |
Tron Send message Joined: 16 Aug 09 Posts: 180 Credit: 2,250,468 RAC: 0 |
Implied!! It never even mentions GPU's it is out of date. This is very true , but bear in mind my opinion is slated from being a Ubuntu linux user. Things are "expected" not to work "out of the box" In a windows initialization , is the default setting to "use GPU" ? |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
In a windows initialization , is the default setting to "use GPU" ? Good question, I just add new machines to the default profile. I have just started crunching for Einstein@Home and GPU crunching was on by default. So probably yes. |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
Good question, I just add new machines to the default profile. I have just started crunching for Einstein@Home and GPU crunching was on by default. The use of the GPU in the project preferences is on by default. However, the default computing preferences for "Suspend GPU work while computer is in use?" is set to yes, so as not to interfere with the use of the computer. In that case, BOINC will only use the GPU when the computer is idle. |
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