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消息 1298880 - 发表于:26 Oct 2012, 5:34:51 UTC - 回复消息 1298874.  

Curious that the party which maligned John Kerry -- I was for before I was against is supporting Romney who has replace for with and.

No surprise at all. It is who controls the media. The biggest fake stink is what gets the headline. Now what was his record as Governor? Was he Mr. Flip Flop? Was he Mr. Party Partisan? Was he Mr. Pragmatist?

This is what I found out about Mitt Romney some time ago and posted in Time to have some fun with the US Elections! It could be worse, you could be Canadians.

Are you talking about the Romney who was Govenor of Massachusetts,

who introduced the socialist Health Care Reform,
and on Abortion said " I will protect a woman's right to choose under the laws of the country and the commonwealth."
Who also said "Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts. These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense."
And also increased taxes on Business.

Yes, that one. That is what he is. Now what his advisers let him do is another matter.

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消息 1298874 - 发表于:26 Oct 2012, 5:31:08 UTC - 回复消息 1298868.  

Curious that the party which maligned John Kerry -- I was for before I was against is supporting Romney who has replace for with and.

No surprise at all. It is who controls the media. The biggest fake stink is what gets the headline. Now what was his record as Governor? Was he Mr. Flip Flop? Was he Mr. Party Partisan? Was he Mr. Pragmatist?

This is what I found out about Mitt Romney some time ago and posted in Time to have some fun with the US Elections! It could be worse, you could be Canadians.

Are you talking about the Romney who was Govenor of Massachusetts,

who introduced the socialist Health Care Reform,
and on Abortion said " I will protect a woman's right to choose under the laws of the country and the commonwealth."
Who also said "Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts. These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense."
And also increased taxes on Business.
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消息 1298868 - 发表于:26 Oct 2012, 5:20:54 UTC - 回复消息 1298859.  

Curious that the party which maligned John Kerry -- I was for before I was against is supporting Romney who has replace for with and.

No surprise at all. It is who controls the media. The biggest fake stink is what gets the headline. Now what was his record as Governor? Was he Mr. Flip Flop? Was he Mr. Party Partisan? Was he Mr. Pragmatist?

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消息 1298859 - 发表于:26 Oct 2012, 4:49:05 UTC - 回复消息 1298750.  
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Gary, in most cases it is a change of nuance (at least within a short time frame).

Romney, on the other hand has perfected the near instantaneous volte face.

Curious that the party which maligned John Kerry -- I was for before I was against is supporting Romney who has replace for with and.
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消息 1298750 - 发表于:25 Oct 2012, 21:24:49 UTC - 回复消息 1298742.  

You have got to know that even more than most candidates, Romney's positions change from crowd to crowd, from moment to moment.

I wonder if anyone has ever done a study on the average politician and how often the positions change. I suspect that in all politicians, above dog catcher, position change occurs for every new crowd.

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消息 1298742 - 发表于:25 Oct 2012, 21:03:14 UTC - 回复消息 1298638.  

OK -- but which Campaign Romney -- you seem to believe that Campaign Romney has been consistent. You really don't believe that do you? Campaign Romney was for cuts in teachers and education, Campaign Romney loves teachers and wants to expand Pell Grants. You have got to know that even more than most candidates, Romney's positions change from crowd to crowd, from moment to moment. It would be simpler to have a campaign approach -- vote for chameleon he's change personified.




There has been campaign Romney and candidate Romney and there have been talking head RINO tea idiots that wish for him to join them and claim he has and repeat their bile as if it was his. But that is the case in every election.

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消息 1298640 - 发表于:25 Oct 2012, 16:13:02 UTC

STEAL FROM THE TAXPAYER
For those that don't know Chicago Politicians Standard Operating Procedures.
Chicago Transit Authority Overcharged Feds $150M Over 30 Years: watchdog group.

Taxpayer advocate Cause of Action said a practice by the nation's third-largest transit authority of counting "deadhead," or empty bus travel, when it reports mileage to the federal agency that doles out subsidies continued from 1982 to earlier this year, despite a 2007 state audit that uncovered the irregularity.

The CTA has had some heavyweights at its helm during the years the questionable billing occurred, including current U.S. Transportation Department General Counsel Robert Rivkin, from 2001-04, and Valerie Jarrett, now a senior adviser to President Obama, who was chairman of the agency’s board from 1995 to 2003.

But the nation must have known his hands were dirty, he came from the Chicago Political Machine.
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消息 1298638 - 发表于:25 Oct 2012, 15:51:30 UTC - 回复消息 1298455.  

Gary -- there was campaign Romney after the Teapublican nomination. Then there was debate Romney who moved so far to the center that his own talking heads were confused and back tracked him on some claim.

There has been campaign Romney and candidate Romney and there have been talking head RINO tea idiots that wish for him to join them and claim he has and repeat their bile as if it was his. But that is the case in every election.

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消息 1298637 - 发表于:25 Oct 2012, 15:46:59 UTC - 回复消息 1298472.  

It sounds like self-deportation.
Gary, regarding which side the online test of your personality suggest you support, well, if you have not already provided us enough info, please provide you year of birth and I will feed it into the year/sex-ratio/predominant political persuasion calculator. (As described in a recent Discover magazine article: http://discovermagazine.com/2012/oct/21-sex-ratio-women-men-affects-attitudes-facial-hair-politics/?searchterm=sex%20ratio.

Put in baby boomer LOL

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消息 1298472 - 发表于:25 Oct 2012, 1:41:05 UTC

It sounds like self-deportation.
Gary, regarding which side the online test of your personality suggest you support, well, if you have not already provided us enough info, please provide you year of birth and I will feed it into the year/sex-ratio/predominant political persuasion calculator. (As described in a recent Discover magazine article: http://discovermagazine.com/2012/oct/21-sex-ratio-women-men-affects-attitudes-facial-hair-politics/?searchterm=sex%20ratio.
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消息 1298455 - 发表于:24 Oct 2012, 23:49:02 UTC - 回复消息 1298405.  

Gary -- there was campaign Romney after the Teapublican nomination. Then there was debate Romney who moved so far to the center that his own talking heads were confused and back tracked him on some claim.

My own guess is that a President Romney would have to deal left and right, and that Moderate Romney might be self-impeached by Teapublican Romney. In doing so, he'd empower the Senate to play bill blockade mode.



There are only two Romneys. Primary Romney and Campaign Romney. Damn shame there are so many RINO tea idiots in the party of Goldwater that people have to cow tow to them.


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消息 1298443 - 发表于:24 Oct 2012, 23:14:42 UTC

How's that creating severally multiply vitriolicy thready thingy workin' out for ya, Mark?
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消息 1298407 - 发表于:24 Oct 2012, 20:39:32 UTC - 回复消息 1298356.  

Obamacare has real problems not because it went too far to the left, rather it has problems because it focused on paying off big insurance companies

BTW anyone know how much health insurance companies are pouring into the campaign and for what candidate?

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消息 1298405 - 发表于:24 Oct 2012, 20:36:51 UTC - 回复消息 1298355.  

There are only two Romneys. Primary Romney and Campaign Romney. Damn shame there are so many RINO tea idiots in the party of Goldwater that people have to cow tow to them.

If Romney the moderate is elected and isn't removed from office by Romney the Teapublican (concept of self-impeachment), then he just might accept a compromise that allows for increased taxes on the uber-wealthy in order to 'keep defense strong'.

It will be interesting to see what happens in the lame duck session -- absent compromise, with a Romney election, he's going to really have problems creating the 12.5 million jobs that he says his plan will create (notwithstanding that the other Romney maintains that government doesn't create jobs).

I hear some families are going to send their kids out in Romney costumes -- only large families though, too many different Romney's for smaller families.



Excellent analysis. I suspect Romney being a business person would actually want compromise, it tends to be the only way to get stuff done, and getting stuff done is what business is about. Of course the partisans would never allow it, they have far to much to loose to ever allow that.



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消息 1298356 - 发表于:24 Oct 2012, 6:25:48 UTC - 回复消息 1298312.  

Well, there is liberal, and then there is what the Teapublicans call socialist. Then you have the 'moderate' Ryan plan which will eliminate funding for half of those on Medicaid.

Obamacare has real problems not because it went too far to the left, rather it has problems because it focused on paying off big insurance companies.




As extremist fringes should be, er your idea of a liberal is an extremist fringe. I mean when it appears as if the ideals you want make Fidel Castro look like a teapublican ...



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If Romney the moderate is elected and isn't removed from office by Romney the Teapublican (concept of self-impeachment), then he just might accept a compromise that allows for increased taxes on the uber-wealthy in order to 'keep defense strong'.

It will be interesting to see what happens in the lame duck session -- absent compromise, with a Romney election, he's going to really have problems creating the 12.5 million jobs that he says his plan will create (notwithstanding that the other Romney maintains that government doesn't create jobs).

I hear some families are going to send their kids out in Romney costumes -- only large families though, too many different Romney's for smaller families.



Excellent analysis. I suspect Romney being a business person would actually want compromise, it tends to be the only way to get stuff done, and getting stuff done is what business is about. Of course the partisans would never allow it, they have far to much to loose to ever allow that.

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Excellent analysis. I suspect Romney being a business person would actually want compromise, it tends to be the only way to get stuff done, and getting stuff done is what business is about. Of course the partisans would never allow it, they have far to much to loose to ever allow that.


Romney owes too many favors and has too much money to make in getting ahead in favors. It would be the same as Bush 3.0 .

It has to be better than a Chicago Politician in Chicago bribery and nepotism mode. Besides, Romney has his money unless Obama taxes his IRA away ...

In the mean time.. the actual liberals are left out of the discussion.

As extremist fringes should be, er your idea of a liberal is an extremist fringe. I mean when it appears as if the ideals you want make Fidel Castro look like a teapublican ...


Took an online test for which presidential candidate I should support. Want to guess which two major party candidates came in at under 50% for me. Want to guess if anyone came in at over 90%?

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消息 1298307 - 发表于:24 Oct 2012, 2:49:42 UTC - 回复消息 1298306.  

Excellent analysis. I suspect Romney being a business person would actually want compromise, it tends to be the only way to get stuff done, and getting stuff done is what business is about. Of course the partisans would never allow it, they have far to much to loose to ever allow that.


Romney owes too many favors and has too much money to make in getting ahead in favors. It would be the same as Bush 3.0 .

In the mean time.. the actual liberals are left out of the discussion.


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消息 1298306 - 发表于:24 Oct 2012, 2:46:06 UTC - 回复消息 1298260.  

Excellent analysis. I suspect Romney being a business person would actually want compromise, it tends to be the only way to get stuff done, and getting stuff done is what business is about. Of course the partisans would never allow it, they have far to much to loose to ever allow that.

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消息 1298260 - 发表于:23 Oct 2012, 23:31:21 UTC - 回复消息 1297780.  

Soft, during Bush II it wasn't borrow and spend TeaPublicans -- it was borrow and spend Republicans. The Teapublican hijack didn't really take place until the tone of the presidency went dark.

Then you have Romney who is at various times Obama-Lite (debate on foreign policy), Romney-Moderate -- previous two debates, Romney the 'severe conservative' and Romney the Teapublican.

The thing is, if Romney is elected, the Democrats will have enough votes to play the same game the Teapublicans have and block action -- be full up partisan.

Absent compromise from both parties -- Romney would inherit a new recession and then the Democrats could emulate the dog/manger Teapublican behavior of the past two years as it seems people are far more inclined to blame the President than Congress when things don't go well.

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