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kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Your out of line. Why? For scalding a politician and calling him our for his lies? Where, my friend, am I out of line. Be specific. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Poll prediction By land mass you are correct. But not by population. Consider that the state of Nevada has less residents in total than the population living within the city limits of the City of Los Angeles California. Of that the City of Los Angeles has five times the number of people as the State of Alaska. There are places in the US where you can be the only person within 100 miles. This isn't Europe. There is a bit of inequity, which was intentionally put into the Electoral College to bias it towards small population states. This because each state is given two votes simply by existing, the rest are by population. This was done so that small states can not be ignored. Perhaps Chris is right and we should give each state 3 Senators for existing and hence 3 votes for existing in the Electoral Collage. |
Terror Australis Send message Joined: 14 Feb 04 Posts: 1817 Credit: 262,693,308 RAC: 44 |
.....If we followed this line of the constitution, we'd mathematically approach a pure democracy. Hmmmm. A strange statement from a citizen of a country that styles itself "The Home of Democracy". Is an "impure" democracy still a democracy ? Has there ever been a "pure" democracy ? Even Ancient Greece had limitations on suffrage. Please name a "pure democracy" that has failed and how long did it last ? It sounds to me like you are advocating a system where only "The Gentry" can vote (because they know best) and the Plebian rabble are left to get on with the job of making money for The Gentry unconcerned by politics. According to Wikipedia, one of the reasons the 17th amendment was passed was to negate "the risk of corruption". They might as well repeal it, on those grounds, it has failed completely T.A. |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
You state the constitution often enough to realize the high bar set in order to pass an amendment. Were conservatives that weak in the 1910's? I don't think that was the case, they too saw the need for this change.
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BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
Sounds like you are endorsing the Electoral College here.
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Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Sounds like you are endorsing the Electoral College here. +1 |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
If we want to get real radical, lets have a third house. Its job will be to repeal existing laws. The representation in it will be based on the amount of land area in the state. Just to be a bit more fair, not federally controlled land area, so national parks, forests etc., don't count. Then we give an equal number to the electoral college. How radical is that? |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
If we want to get real radical, lets have a third house. Its job will be to repeal existing laws. The representation in it will be based on the amount of land area in the state. Just to be a bit more fair, not federally controlled land area, so national parks, forests etc., don't count. Then we give an equal number to the electoral college. How radical is that? OMG......we NEED a third choice. You just now saw that???????????? How freaking visionary. Sorry, did not really mean to be an arse. But, come on.............Yes, I agree with you on this one. Meows,. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Ex: "Socialist" Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 3433 Credit: 2,616,158 RAC: 2 |
Re-electing Obama for a second term is like the Titanic backing up and having another go at the iceberg. One could make that exact same argument about electing a Republican back into office. It's so funny how many people blame Obama for the economy, apparently forgetting the guy that got us into the mess and WHEN. #resist |
Ex: "Socialist" Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 3433 Credit: 2,616,158 RAC: 2 |
Sounds like you are endorsing the Electoral College here. +2 @Gary's; shouldn't it be based on population, rather than physical size of the state? I mean really... Come on. You'd be giving greater power to states with much smaller populations. Which is an existing issue, with the senate IMHO. Then again some of us prefer thinking of the US as one country, and others want it to be 50 countries. #resist |
Ex: "Socialist" Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 3433 Credit: 2,616,158 RAC: 2 |
Re-electing Obama for a second term is like the Titanic backing up and having another go at the iceberg. Which has also been slightly to the right for several years now as far as I know.. #resist |
Ex: "Socialist" Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 3433 Credit: 2,616,158 RAC: 2 |
That looks like a Republican Majority for 3/4ths of Bush's term. You were trying to prove a point that democrats were responsible for the economies downturn during BushII? 'Cause I'm not seeing it...? #resist |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
@Gary's; shouldn't it be based on population, rather than physical size of the state? I mean really... Come on. You'd be giving greater power to states with much smaller populations. Which is an existing issue, with the senate IMHO. Then again some of us prefer thinking of the US as one country, and others want it to be 50 countries. It is 50 countries. Each state is a sovereign. And we would end up with the same mess the EU has. Now how about that third house with repeal power being based on property value owned by people not corporations? And only property owners can vote for them. All that huge block of disenfranchised Manhattan high rises ... |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
It is 50 countries. Each state is a sovereign. And we would end up with the same mess the EU has. Might be a clue to the EU about how to get rid of their mess, if they so choose. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
@Gary's; shouldn't it be based on population, rather than physical size of the state? I mean really... Come on. You'd be giving greater power to states with much smaller populations. Which is an existing issue, with the senate IMHO. Then again some of us prefer thinking of the US as one country, and others want it to be 50 countries. Why don't you just make it only white male property owners and take yourselves all the way back to the 1790s? Reality Internet Personality |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
that was Ben Franklins Idea. In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
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