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Allie in Vancouver Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 3949 Credit: 1,604,668 RAC: 0 |
I've already read the bible (KV version0, albeit many many years ago. Wasn't terribly impressed. If it turns out that aliens wrote that racist, misogynistic, homophobic, hate filled piece crap then I'd be mostly disappointed and depressed. Pure mathematics is, in its way, the poetry of logical ideas. Albert Einstein |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
My Bible is sexier than ETs Bible. ;) |
musicplayer Send message Joined: 17 May 10 Posts: 2430 Credit: 926,046 RAC: 0 |
Sex is supposed to be a "sin". |
Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
Why wouldn't they throw in a few tidbits of information that would speak to the future readers of this book? Instead of spending so much time covering topics such as how to treat slaves or how a brother must marry his dead brother's wife if they never conceived a son, why not drop some interstellar navigation rules or advanced computer modelling? The goat herders of the time wouldn't have known what the hell was being shown, so it wouldn't have had any affect on them, but we would know that an advanced mind was at work. I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
Then, in the year 4,004 BC, they genetically engineered "Adam" and put him in a garden in the East, east of Jerusalem, now modern day Iraq. They genetically engineered Adam from their own genes. Chris, Hmmmmmm.... You've been watching evolution programs on the TV again, now haven't you? Chris, you need to make a clear distinction between very clever human beings, and some type of semi intelligent Neanderthal ape that might have existed in the distant past. This distinction can be made when you see evidence for truly monumental carved stone structures. There is a gigantic leap forward in technology if your carving monumental stone structures. One of the oldest is Göbekli Tepe in modern day Turkey at 10,000 BC. There are several more from this era. Göbekli Tepe in Turkey - 10,000 B.C http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe Now one thing is very very clear, there was nothing primitive about the people who built Göbekli Tepe in Turkey. They still don't know what it was built for. And as usual, archaeologists say "they" were doing something "religious". Archaeologists always say "they were doing something religious" when they can't explain the structure. So that is where i get my date of 10,000 BC. These people who built Göbekli Tepe in Turkey are not the same as us human beings today. They were immortal scientists that came here to Earth to do genetic engineering. There is nothing alien about them. As the Bible says, "Let us make Man in our image, and in our likeness". So they look just like us! The date of 4,004 BC is common knowledge. Its taken from the Ussher chronology, a commonly accepted date for the creation of Adam and its derived from the genealogy on the book of Genesis. John. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
The bible states that Adam was the First man, so how is it that neanderthal man appeared on the planet up to 230,000 years ago? Doesn't that show the errors in the bible? |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
I've already read the bible (KV version0, albeit many many years ago. kenzieB, Would you? Yes, your description sounds accurate. The Old Testament Bible is full to the brim with really terrible stuff. Its very violent, full of killing and Genocide. After all, if God really did flood the world, then today we would call this Genocide because he killed everyone except Noah. And the nuclear explosion at Sodom and Gomorrah would also be classed as Genocide. And it was God that committed both these acts of Genocide. Today we would try God in the Hague, the Netherlands, in the International Criminal Court. So in my mind, God sounds just like any of the human generals, army leaders, kings, presidents, and tribal warlords that have slaughtered millions of people throughout human history. Our leaders do this stuff today!! In the last 100 years, we have had 2 world wars, Hitler gassed 6 million Jews, and the Americans detonated 2 nuclear bombs in Japan. In my mind, God sounds just like us. God sound human! John. |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
Why wouldn't they throw in a few tidbits of information that would speak to the future readers of this book? Robert, The Bible is full of advanced stuff. Just read Book of Ezekiel and you have a perfect description of an advanced flying machine coming down out of the sky with "God" seated in the cockpit. Then he gets out of the flying machine and "talks" to Ezekiel. There are hundreds more examples just like that. You just have to "read between the lines". You have to read the book like a scientist, instead of like some adoring moron. John. |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
The bible states that Adam was the First man, so how is it that neanderthal man appeared on the planet up to 230,000 years ago? Sirius, Yes, Adam was the first "human being". The books also says that "they" were creating "other plants and animals" before Adam. So whatever fossil your referring to that is 230,000 years old, is from a different epoch. John. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
snip So John, explain why Ireland were full of morons right up to the 1970's by being lead by the pope, the King of Morons? |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
That has always been postulated Robert, that if there were ET visitations in the past then apart from the locals trying to record that for posterity, you would think that they would leave some sort of message that would only be found when that society was sufficiently advanced to recognise it. Chris, Why are the 150 Pyramids down in Egypt not proof that someone was here in the past doing something suspicious? Remember Chris, no Pharaoh was ever found in a pyramid, so they don't know what the pyramids were built for, yet! ALL the Pharaohs were buried in the valley of the Kings, and carefully "preserved" so at a future date, DNA samples could be extracted and they could be cloned and brought back to life. The Pharaohs WILL live again. And when we clone the Pharaohs, people will revere them and treat them like Kings. They will be Kings again, and they will rule Egypt again! THE PROOF IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU, if you just wake up and open your eyes! John. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
The 'bible' has obviously been contributed to, edited by, and abused by countless for many years. Some swear by it, many are forced to swear upon it, as the gospel from some years gone by. I have not read the bible much ever...... I know what my beliefs are, and any debate about some such will fall upon dear ears. I only know what I was taught from youth, and that has been reinforced by certain events in my lifetime. I have drawn upon them, and realized that there is a higher power that has ruled over me and has granted me some very special grants of His power when things got really bad in my life. You can believe this or diss it, as it your want/. I don't care. Because I believe. What some of you have missed is that belief does not need proof, quantification, or qualification. It simply IS. We could go on forever on this subject, but............. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
Chris, Why are the 150 Pyramids down in Egypt not proof that someone was here in the past doing something suspicious? Hmmmmmm....Chris, I would say the opposite. I would say that what you said is conjecture. Chris tell me why you think the scientists who work in universities in Egypt today won't try to clone the Pharaohs? To me, this seems obvious! Its inevitable! John. |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
What on earth would be the point of cloning someone in a physical likeness of 3000 BC with no memories of that time? They would still be born and brought up in the 21st Century with 21st century values! Chris, Ok, so you understand that we can clone a human being, good!. And the clone, lets say King Tut as an example, would be an identical DNA copy of the King Tut that lived in Egypt thousands of years ago. So todays scientists clone the guy, and, naturally he would be named "Tutankhamun", because we know exactly who he is. And as he grows up, because everyone worldwide knows who he is, he would be raised as royalty. And he would have teachers that would teach him everything about ancient Egypt, and about his previous life. He will get very special treatment because of who he is! So by the time this cloned King Tut is about 20 years of age, he would know exactly who he is, and he would be one of the most famous celebrities in the world! He would be on every TV show and everyone would revere him. The Egyptians would crown him king! THIS WILL HAPPEN CHRIS! John. |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
What on earth would be the point of cloning someone in a physical likeness of 3000 BC with no memories of that time? They would still be born and brought up in the 21st Century with 21st century values! Why would a Christian want to "reincarnate" King Tut? Surely it makes more sense to pump the stomach of a Catholic after they've taken Eucharist. Transubstantiation tells us that you'll have the body and blood of Christ, and surely with enough of that scientists will be able to reconstruct His DNA? I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Naw, the current stuff just has to be counterfeit as the original has been diluted too much over the past 2000 years. |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
Chris, I really don't understand why YOU don't understand what i am explaining. You seem to be ok with the fact that you can actually clone a human being, even if person has been dead for a long time. So long as we can extract a crystallised DNA sample from the bone, we can recreate the person. This cloned person is the equivalent of the original persons twin. Its like a woman have identical twins today. Its not complex, its easy to understand. I don't understand why you think todays Egyptians would not want to clone King Tut. The Egyptians love the guy!! He is one of their favourite Pharaohs of all time. The whole world loves King Tut. Personally myself, i would love to meet the guy! All the television stations would be fighting to get him on TV. And i also don't understand why you think all the worlds religions are keeping everyone down. Why Chris? Why do you think that? All the religions of the world have always been the educators. They have been the ones that have passed down the ancient books that tell the truth. Its the religions that let people know that they will be resurrected to a second life, and Chris, this is the truth. Its not just King Tut, everybody will be cloned, including you and me. And people will be judged. If you led a good life, people will like you. If you led a bad life, like Adolf Hitler, well the Jews won't be too pleased with him. Why are you so skeptical of this Chris? All the worlds religions teach people the truth. Its not lies Chris, its reality. John. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
I've already read the bible (KV version0, albeit many many years ago. Note: That's just one of very many different versions. All random multiple inaccuracies? Or across the multiple versions and across the ages, political evolution in action? Wasn't terribly impressed. If it turns out that aliens wrote that racist, misogynistic, homophobic, hate filled piece crap then I'd be mostly disappointed and depressed. All sounds very Human and highly believable for a localised history that expands outwards as the "known world" expands for the authors. In the supposed days of the Garden of Eden (nope, that's NOT Apple Computers and their walled 'garden'...), the "World" was the immediate area of the Holy Lands. Everything more distant was the unknown region called the "World of God". Until explorers ventured beyond their garden boundary... All wrapped up in the "grandiose metaphor" of the time for thus: To be able to give Stories, or even to be able to Write, demanded that being told or written to be "Something Special and Grand, or at least grandly dire"... Now translate into modern language. Still a best seller if only for the sake of longevity and monopolistic pulpit practices! Thou Shalt BUY IT ALL!! Perhaps Marketing pre-dates religion? Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
... So in my mind, God sounds just like any of the human generals, army leaders, kings, presidents, and tribal warlords that have ... ... Power, fear, coercion over those naming them "god". Hence the how and why for our custom of using such names in vain?... In my mind, God sounds just like us. God sound human! For God is but a Human invention... Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
THE PROOF IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU, if you just wake up and open your eyes! Epiphany? Oooeerr... Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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