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消息 1293056 - 发表于:9 Oct 2012, 2:54:20 UTC - 回复消息 1293055.  

No, you didn't read it wrong. Let me ask you this. Who's been burning the U.S. flag, throwing shoes at pictures of Obama, killing Americans, chanting "kill American infidels", and rioting in the streets lately? Let me ask you this. If I were to vandalize your house because I don't like the way you think, can I say you're causing a "you vs. me" mentality?


The ones you see doing that on TV are the extremists that the newscasters are trying to report on. You shouldn't let a small picture color your entire world view.


Well, those extremists are now launching mortor attacks into Turkey and getting ready to nuke Israel. Can you name any Christian extremists attempting to start WWIII?


If you cite a lack of choice... you and those that think like you advocating violence which only begets more violence.


Lack of choice? Advocating violence? Me? Are you trying to annoy me or antagonize me? You know that's against the posting rules, don't you?


Those are all things you've said. Do the words you say annoy you or antagonize you? If they do, then don't say them.
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消息 1293054 - 发表于:9 Oct 2012, 2:48:18 UTC - 回复消息 1293047.  

It's not me advocating an "us vs. them" mentality.


No? I must have read this wrong:

Let me ask this AGAIN. Who's causing more trouble in the world right now? Christianity or the nation of Islam?

Let me ask this. In the past 1400 years, who's brought more good (contributions to science, astronomy, civilization, modern comforts) to the world? Christianity or the nation of Islam? Were the likes of Newton, Pasteur, Kepler, and Paschal Christian or Muslim?


No, you didn't read it wrong. Let me ask you this. Who's been burning the U.S. flag, throwing shoes at pictures of Obama, killing Americans, chanting "kill American infidels", and rioting in the streets lately? Let me ask you this. If I were to vandalize your house because I don't like the way you think, can I say you're causing a "you vs. me" mentality?


almost to the letter.. what the relgious right(Xtian) has been doing.

Okay they do not say infidel and it is not ONLY americans they wanna kill..

Get over the religious wars. The inquisition is over. Sorry to be the one to break the news.


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消息 1293051 - 发表于:9 Oct 2012, 2:41:26 UTC - 回复消息 1293049.  

No, you didn't read it wrong. Let me ask you this. Who's been burning the U.S. flag, throwing shoes at pictures of Obama, killing Americans, chanting "kill American infidels", and rioting in the streets lately? Let me ask you this. If I were to vandalize your house because I don't like the way you think, can I say you're causing a "you vs. me" mentality?


The ones you see doing that on TV are the extremists that the newscasters are trying to report on. You shouldn't let a small picture color your entire world view.


Well, those extremists are now launching mortor attacks into Turkey and getting ready to nuke Israel. Can you name any Christian extremists attempting to start WWIII?


If you cite a lack of choice... you and those that think like you advocating violence which only begets more violence.
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消息 1293048 - 发表于:9 Oct 2012, 2:34:56 UTC - 回复消息 1293047.  

No, you didn't read it wrong. Let me ask you this. Who's been burning the U.S. flag, throwing shoes at pictures of Obama, killing Americans, chanting "kill American infidels", and rioting in the streets lately? Let me ask you this. If I were to vandalize your house because I don't like the way you think, can I say you're causing a "you vs. me" mentality?


The ones you see doing that on TV are the extremists that the newscasters are trying to report on. You shouldn't let a small picture color your entire world view.
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消息 1293046 - 发表于:9 Oct 2012, 2:31:43 UTC - 回复消息 1293043.  

The problem is that you're creating an 'us vs. them' mentality, and you've even advocated the use of violence toward Muslims, citing a lack of choice.

I give no one who advocates violence any leeway.


It's not me advocating an "us vs. them" mentality.


You really should get that log removed from your eye.. because yes, you were.
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消息 1293044 - 发表于:9 Oct 2012, 2:28:33 UTC - 回复消息 1293043.  

It's not me advocating an "us vs. them" mentality.


No? I must have read this wrong:

Let me ask this AGAIN. Who's causing more trouble in the world right now? Christianity or the nation of Islam?

Let me ask this. In the past 1400 years, who's brought more good (contributions to science, astronomy, civilization, modern comforts) to the world? Christianity or the nation of Islam? Were the likes of Newton, Pasteur, Kepler, and Paschal Christian or Muslim?
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消息 1293041 - 发表于:9 Oct 2012, 2:24:51 UTC - 回复消息 1293037.  

The problem is that you're creating an 'us vs. them' mentality, and you've even advocated the use of violence toward Muslims, citing a lack of choice.

I give no one who advocates violence any leeway.
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消息 1293035 - 发表于:9 Oct 2012, 2:11:52 UTC - 回复消息 1293033.  

I wouldn't confuse confidence for faith. The two are not the same.
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消息 1293033 - 发表于:9 Oct 2012, 2:08:28 UTC - 回复消息 1293031.  

Full confidence in the lack of God sounds like faith to me. I suppose one has to have some belief or idea to be militant about.
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消息 1293031 - 发表于:9 Oct 2012, 2:01:17 UTC - 回复消息 1293030.  
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OK, I'll bite, if you have faith in godlessness, I say you have faith and can be overbearing and militant about it.


Surely someone who has faith in godlessness, by definition, cannot be Atheist. Anyone can be overbearing and militant regardless of faith or lack thereof.
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消息 1293030 - 发表于:9 Oct 2012, 1:57:09 UTC - 回复消息 1293029.  

OK, I'll bite, if you have faith in godlessness, I say you have faith and can be overbearing and militant about it.
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消息 1293029 - 发表于:9 Oct 2012, 1:47:41 UTC - 回复消息 1293020.  

Since Atheism is a lack of faith, it seems you've mistakenly added Atheist to your list.
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消息 1293020 - 发表于:9 Oct 2012, 1:23:54 UTC - 回复消息 1293014.  

I have long maintained an aversion to Ayatollahs of any faith including (but not limited to):

Muslim
Christian
Catholic
Mormon
Hindu
Communist
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消息 1293014 - 发表于:9 Oct 2012, 1:01:35 UTC - 回复消息 1293006.  

Blank man, you present one verse from the Bible. Here're at least 109 (ONE HUNDRED NINE) verses from the Quran:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm

Let me ask you something blank man, when was the last time a Christian acted on Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT? And when was the last time a Muslim acted on any of the above? Let's face some facts here, please.

But you know what? Catholics may have no choice but to start getting violent in the near future... And who will you blame?


I don't care if there's 1 or 109 (though I know I could find more but I don't care to post them all), if the religion dictates violence in their texts and someone acts upon it, none of them have a right to castigate the other.

The best either can do is to distance themselves from the extremists that wish to cause harm. The Catholics and Christians distance themselves from their extremists, as do many Muslims distance themselves from their extremists, but you would lambast an entire religion because of the actions of a few when you live in a glass house.

Blame? I blame anyone who think as you do regardless of their religion.
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消息 1293009 - 发表于:9 Oct 2012, 0:50:36 UTC - 回复消息 1293006.  

"But you know what? Catholics may have no choice but to start getting violent in the near future... And who will you blame?"

Every idiot that feels they have to burn women/children/houses/villages in the name of god and country.
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