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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20265 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
FOR STARTERS --Johnnie my son, Oooer! As a certain Deep Thought intoned: Tricky. Or... As a scientist might say: Interesting. :-) Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
FOR STARTERS --Johnnie my son, Daddio, And electron is an electron, no matter what way you look at it. Never heard anyone saying it might be a black hole. I think the Wikipedia page has the radius of the electron; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron John. |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
Same question again Martin, Now Martin i did not insult YOU. If your offended, then this is your problem, not mine. I insulted the scientists that stand on high pedestals (News and media)and preach "bad science" without checking if everything is correct. And i named them too. No, i won't apologise under any circumstances. I will continue to insult those who stand on their high horses and preach bad science. I will continue to point out blatant bad science. John. |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
Two? Rare X-Ray Nova Reveals a New Black Hole in the Milky Way Swift J1745-26, with a scale of the moon as it would appear in the field of view from Earth. This image is from September 18, 2012 when the source peaked in hard X-rays. Credit: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center/S. Immler and H. Krimm |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
I will continue to insult those who stand on their high horses and preach bad science. I will continue to point out blatant bad science. High horses, like this: I haven't met anyone here who seems to have knowledge of the subjects involved in genetics ? Or this: I'm very good with genetics ? It probably helps to have an understanding of good science before pointing out bad science. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
FOR STARTERS --Johnnie my son, Odd, there's a wiki page on the subject. The idea forms a part of some of the more speculative works on physics. Didn't you say that you'd studied the fields you criticize? I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Forgive him Tullio he knows not what he reads. I dont claim to understand all science. But I do have a firm grip on the basics. You are right. I shall stop posting. There is no worse deaf that he who does not want to hear. Tullio |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
please dont stop posting. I enjoy reading what you have to say. I get tired of reading the peanut gallery and their psuedoscientific blather. In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
OK. I've just read that a halo of hot baryons surrounds our Galaxy. Maybe they are a part of the "missing mass" envisaged by Fritz Zwicky in 1935, before it was called "dark matter" (a bad name, I agree). Cheers. Tullio A group from Ohio State University made the discovery using the Chandra X-ray telescope from NASA. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20265 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
I will continue to insult those who stand on their high horses and preach bad science. I will continue to point out blatant bad science. Well put, thanks. Sorry Johnney, resorting to unsubstantiated insults means you've lost whatever discussion you thought you might have been part of. Certainly no problem of mine. If you make your best effort to be kinder, nurture compassion, make the world a better place, then you can say "At least I've done my best" -- Dalai Lama Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
I think that anybody who insults other volunteers should be banned from these message boards. Tullio |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
I think that anybody who insults other volunteers should be banned from these message boards. Before that happens, consider this: - 1: We're all human 2: We all make mistakes 3: It takes all sorts to make a world 4: Why, they sometimes make hilarious reading 5: Life is made easier if we can laugh at ourselves every now & again. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
The rules here are quite clear. No real need for further comment. think you'd better start hitting the "good stuff".... ...you're not supposed to be agreeing with me - i can't find anyone else to be my nemesis :) |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
Scientists seem to think that there is energy out there in the universe that at present we can't see or detect, or even tap into to use. The Starwars series called it the "Force". We have named it dark matter or dark energy. It may not exist, it may do, we do not at this juncture know one way or the other. Chris, Hang on here for one minute! I insulted "astronomers and cosmologists" in general, and their science, and i named the groups. Even worse, i'm attacking them for what i know is bad science. Then Martin took personal offence even though i wasn't insulting Martin. This is not my problem, its up to Martin to realise my insults were not pointed at him. And i, and many other people, serious professional scientists, KNOW there is something seriously wrong with our fundamental physics and astronomy. Its not a secret cult, its not a conspiracy, its not a small number of people, its the vast majority of people who work in astronomy and physics. Everyone knows there is something wrong, and everyone is desperately trying to find what is wrong! Hugh amounts of money are being spent trying to solve this problem. So until such time as the astronomers and physicists have resolved the paradoxes and inconsistencies in out current knowledge, every idea and theory needs to be examined. Until we have the FULL SET OF RULES that govern science, everything needs to be criticised and thoroughly examined. And that means being suspicious of ALL scientific theories. It means criticising the papers that physicists and astronomers are publishing. It means attacking theories to find any flaws in the science. And that is what i am doing. I am criticising astronomical theories to expose any underlying flaws that may exist in these theories. So the work i do is very important, and i'm not the only one doing it. Thousands of scientists are doing the same thing as me. Looking to find where we are going wrong. If there is bad science, or mistakes in our current understanding, we need to find the mistakes. John. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
If there is bad science, or mistakes in our current understanding, we need to find the mistakes. Then you need to find those mistakes. Criticising without any backup is insulting to all. |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
If there is bad science, or mistakes in our current understanding, we need to find the mistakes. Whats your point? I have found the mistakes, and i point them out here on these forums. And i do provide all the information needed to understand what i am explaining. Example; My claim; There are no black holes. Evidence/Proof; They cannot be detected with any man-made scientific instrument. Explanation; They are Barycenters Whats difficult about that? It seems simple to me? What part don't you understand? John. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
If there is bad science, or mistakes in our current understanding, we need to find the mistakes. Hang on here for one minute! I insulted "astronomers and cosmologists" in general, and their science, and i named the groups. Even worse, i'm attacking them for what i know is bad science. So why attack them only on this forum? Why not register with their forums & attack them directly? At least they can answer you there - they cannot here! |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
So why attack them only on this forum? Why not register with their forums & attack them directly? At least they can answer you there - they cannot here! Ahhhhh..... cos they don't have a forum or message boards where i can personally insult them! And cos this is where i hang out in my spare time to entertain myself. John. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
So why attack them only on this forum? Why not register with their forums & attack them directly? At least they can answer you there - they cannot here! ....& keeping us entertained at the same time :) |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
John, you reveal yourself. As I have previously stated you have a great sense of humor, and the people who try to rebut you don't realize your joke. I am amazed. |
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