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Grant Nelson Send message Joined: 7 May 12 Posts: 8022 Credit: 4,237,757 RAC: 0 |
Darn lost my star chart |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Allie in Vancouver Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 3949 Credit: 1,604,668 RAC: 0 |
It should be pointed out that McKinnon has been diagnosed with Asperger's as well as clinical depression. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_McKinnon He makes many claims and provides no evidence to back it up. Just my opinion, but not the most credible person on the planet. Pure mathematics is, in its way, the poetry of logical ideas. Albert Einstein |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Yeah, he may have been smart about hacking, but he wasn't very intelligent when it comes to digital photography: McKinnon says his goal was to find evidence that the American government had obtained extraterrestrial technology that it was withholding from the general public. Anyone who look at a photo in 4-bit color and low resolution is going to find all sorts of artifacts due to the conversion and data loss. It also sounds like the aliens drive a shake-weight. Yeah.... this is why hard evidence is more important than stories passed around. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Grant Nelson Send message Joined: 7 May 12 Posts: 8022 Credit: 4,237,757 RAC: 0 |
Strange UFO orb over Tweed Heads Australia I seen my first true UFO about a week short of a year ago. what I seen couldn't have been man made in no way shape or form. I'm still shook over it That's no joking. Many other people seen it too. |
Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
Strange UFO orb over Tweed Heads Australia If it can't be explained then it is a UFO and just that, "An unidentifiable object seen in the air". The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
Strange UFO orb over Tweed Heads Australia Unfortunately, I never had the experience of seeing one:( rOZZ Music Pictures |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Then you have to ask the question of course why science can't explain it. I know there's a lot of things in the Universe that can't be explained but on earth I'm not so sure of. Usually, the problem is not of "unexplained" but more of a lack of good or useful information to allow anything to be explainable in the first place. Ever wondered why all the "Great Mysteries" are of things not seen or at best seen by unreliable witness or from 'something' in a fuzzy photograph that is too fuzzy to see anything for sure... You are very welcome to dream all manner of images in the face of the moon. Some authors make lots of money out of such mysteries tomfoolery... Of all possible explanations, interstellar Aliens must be a long long way down the list. Why on Earth would they bother us over many light years of space and time to not be explained?... Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
Of all possible explanations, interstellar Aliens must be a long long way down the list. Why on Earth would they bother us over many light years of space and time to not be explained?... ML', bother us and know that they have been seen too but choose to continue not to communicate with us just does not add up.....as you say, "Alien theory must be a long way down on the list". The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
like the 11 dimensions in the Universe Julie. the 11 dimensions allow scientist to explain, come to terms, with the strange goings-on in particle quantum physics. They can only experiment under the restrictive conditions set by our three dimensional world. Yet what they do discover leads them, at times, to calculate that certain findings to make any sense could only occur if there were many more dimensions. The splitting of the photon leads many scientists to believe in the multiple dimension theorem. Split a photon in half, one polarised vertical the other horizontal, isolate them from one another by distance. Switch the vertically polarised photon over to horizontal polarity and you find the previously horizontal polarised photon immediately switches over to vertical polarity. How can this occur since in our three dimensional world the two half photons are not connected for they were split. They must still be connected in some way...via another but unseen dimension for how else could each half photon know what the other half is doing in supposed isolation. The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
Yes, but how about the Akasha Field? http://www.resurgence.org/magazine/article2914-the-akashic-experience.html rOZZ Music Pictures |
Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
Yes, but how about the Akasha Field? "The universe creates intelligence, formed the moment you distort any part of space". Something understood by physicist for many years now. Hence bings in the concept of string theory and multiple dimensions that are wrapped up tightly hence behaving like strings. You can split a photon but you don't split it's string. This string is a extra-dimensional chord that stays attached to each half of the photon and being a dimension has no limit on it's possible length. This chord can stretch from one end of the universe to the other, as experienced in our three dimensional world. But in a multi-dimensional world the photon may appear not to have been totally split at all, why? because only in a three dimensional world, can you create particles, photons and the like, in a multi-dimensional sub-world all that's here are the strings that make up these particles, photons etc. Hence providing when splitting the photon you have not cut all of it's strings too then in the sub-world the two halves seem still connected. No wonder it takes so much energy to split particles apart for you need to cut these strings. All we see in our three dimensional world is the products of what is going on in our sub-multidimensional world. A world where distance has no meaning for it does not exist. If aliens were to exist then how would they be able to effectively communicate with their home base millions of light years away without suffering from any time delay? I think the answer here can be found in the two half photons experiment? The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
I do think aliens with a highly advanced technology (and they do exist, I think) could have found the means already to deal with this problem. There could also be laws of fyzix in the Universe that aren't discovered yet by us. We may be smart but surely there are certain laws of which we don't have a clue yet! rOZZ Music Pictures |
Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
I do think aliens with a highly advanced technology (and they do exist, I think) could have found the means already to deal with this problem. There could also be laws of fyzix in the Universe that aren't discovered yet by us. We may be smart but surely there are certain laws of which we don't have a clue yet! Yes I agree there must be certain laws, but laws that are only applicable to the very small scale of quantum physics but don't apply to the larger scale. Newtons laws come to mind here, found to work well on the large scale but fail on the smaller scale...as Einstein discoveries proved. Regarding aliens, I'd wont to see concrete evidence before I was to believe in them...but it would be nice to know that there is someone else out there in our universe. Hieroglyphs, I came across an interesting item regarding the aircraft and such seen depicted on Egyptian tombs etc. What appears to be images of aircraft and helicopters are in actual fact the amalgamation of several standard hieroglyphs joined together. They did this to show a father and son when the son became a Pharaoh. King Seti Ist was the son of king Ramesses IInd and if you put the Ramesses hieroglyph on top of the Seti hieroglyph, so meaning Seti son of Ramesses, they form the image of what looks like an aeroplane. The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
So that means when Seti finds a radio signal of alien origin, you will believe in them;) It just can't be we're all alone in the universe. I even find it arrogant to think that way. rOZZ Music Pictures |
Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
Regarding aliens, I'd wont to see concrete evidence before I was to believe in So that means when Seti finds a radio signal of alien origin, you will believe in them; Certainly a very good reason then to believe in them. It just can't be we're all alone in the universe. I even find it arrogant to think that way. We're not all alone Julie for we all have each other here on Earth...cuddles all round. Understandably though yes it would be hard to believe were all alone in this massive universe of ours. But there are scientists who believe we might well be though. I for one though would be extremely surprised if there was no other form of life supporting plant or planets in the universe. The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
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