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betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
John, as an Irishman you were trained to "have the gift of gab", and you use it well. It is a cultural thing. |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
Bobby, To be honest, i don't want to discuss genetics with you. Bobby your a very nice person, and i like you. But your out of line when you attempt to correct me in genetics. Your right, you don't have a great knowledge of genetics. I don't want to discuss it with you. John. |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
John, as an Irishman you were trained to "have the gift of gab", and you use it well. It is a cultural thing. Thanks Betreger, John. |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
Bobby, My knowledge of genetics may not be great. My ability to research falsehoods seems to be quite good. In that other thread you were provided with academic papers to counter you claims, your argument then was the same as it is now, state that others do not have expertise matching yours, while providing no evidence. If you want to talk about science, produce the data in support of your claims. So far I've seen very little, if any. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
My knowledge of genetics may not be great. My ability to research falsehoods seems to be quite good. In that other thread you were provided with academic papers to counter you claims, your argument then was the same as it is now, state that others do not have expertise matching yours, while providing no evidence. Bobby, I'm trying to be nice to you, do you get it? Which part do you not understand? I don't want to discuss genetics with you. John. |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
My knowledge of genetics may not be great. My ability to research falsehoods seems to be quite good. In that other thread you were provided with academic papers to counter you claims, your argument then was the same as it is now, state that others do not have expertise matching yours, while providing no evidence. Then don't be nice, dazzle me with your brilliance. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
Bobby, Come into the forum next door, the "Science (non-SETI)" forum. There is a thread in there called "No more Junk DNA in Human Genome". Your welcome to join the conversation Bobby; http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69291 If you can keep up! John. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Bobby, John's self acknowledged gift of gab is often referred to as BS. |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
I asked you to dazzle me. Still waiting. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
The Simonator Send message Joined: 18 Nov 04 Posts: 5700 Credit: 3,855,702 RAC: 50 |
John, as an Irishman you were trained to "have the gift of gab", and you use it well. It is a cultural thing. And they wonder why Ireland went bust. Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge. |
The Simonator Send message Joined: 18 Nov 04 Posts: 5700 Credit: 3,855,702 RAC: 50 |
You wouldn't recognise a scientific fact if it danced a jig whilst throwing potatoes at you! You have had the accepted scientific fact repeatedly thrust at you throughout this thread, yet you persistently ignore it in favour of spouting religious drivel about divine judgement. One day you're in for a hell of a disappointment! Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge. |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
The Simonator, Yes, most sane and logical people might think you have the upper hand here. After all, i'm in the minority on this forum in understanding who and what God is. Logic would suggest that you are correct, and i'm the lunatic. But here's a scenario; Imagine if it turned out to be the other way around. Imagine if it turned out in the end that we human beings really were created by God. Imagine if you, Simonator, were wrong, and i was right. That would be shocking, wouldn't it? Naaaaa......its ridiculous. There is no way that old God story is true! After all, its just an old story what was written thousands of years ago. There is no way that anyone could play God with another person's life. Who would even dream up such a ridiculous scenario. Those Saints and Prophets that were hanging out down in Israel thousands of years ago must have been mad. Imagine all those Saints and Prophets thinking they could fool the whole world into thinking there was other intelligent life somewhere else in the universe that discovered genetic engineering before us. No, its much more likely that us human beings are the cleverest life in the whole universe. After all, there is no way that an old fart like Charles Darwin could have made a mistake. He spent so much time studying those Finches, so he must be right? There is no way that the Finches could be genetic hybrids of a small number of similar species that have an equal number of chromosomes allowing them to inter-breed. The Lord God is my Shepherd, and he leads me through the the valley of darkness. He leads me into the light, the beautiful light in the beautiful garden that awaits humanity. I asked the Lord my God for help, and he answered. He was good enough to let me peek inside the gates of heaven, where i looked and saw the beautiful wonders that God had prepared for all humanity, but only those who choose God's way and God's law will see the garden. God let me see the wonders in Heaven, and it was beautiful, and the garden was full of love, love was everywhere in the garden. It was full of God's love for humanity. For a short time, i have stepped back from the gates of Heaven so that i can tell other people about what i saw in God's garden, the garden of Eden. Some will believe, and some will never see it. John. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
You been at the "black stuff" again John? |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
You been at the "black stuff" again John? Sirius B, I don't drink. I never touch the stuff. John. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
You been at the "black stuff" again John? In that case, I's suggest that you stop reading for a while & pop out & smell the roses. Even better, pop over to Tipperary & stand at the rear of the High Street & look up at the Galtee Mountains, tis a beautiful sight, especially when one is also holding a glass of the "good stuff".... :) |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
The Lord God is my Shepherd, and he leads me through the the valley of darkness. He leads me into the light, the beautiful light in the beautiful garden that awaits humanity. I asked the Lord my God for help, and he answered. He was good enough to let me peek inside the gates of heaven, where i looked and saw the beautiful wonders that God had prepared for all humanity, but only those who choose God's way and God's law will see the garden. God let me see the wonders in Heaven, and it was beautiful, and the garden was full of love, love was everywhere in the garden. It was full of God's love for humanity. For a short time, i have stepped back from the gates of Heaven so that i can tell other people about what i saw in God's garden, the garden of Eden. Some will believe, and some will never see it. Chris, I can't keep it to myself, i'm not able. I have to talk about whats after happening to me. I have to say it to someone. If i actually opened up completely, and told everyone here the full complete story of what happened to me in the last 2 years, then you really would think i was a lunatic. The truth is totally and utterly shocking. The truth is so shocking that i struggle to believe it myself. So Chris i don't tell ye the truth here on these boards. I give ye a poetic coded version of the truth. Never in my wildest dreams would i have ever thought that any of the stuff in the Bible was real. I'm a hard core skeptic. The Bible is like an Arthur C. Clarke science fiction novel. The stuff in the Bible is wild nonsense and the vast majority of the Bible is coded in poetry that even the priests can't decipher. But i have it, all of it. Or at least i have a large chunk of the story. The Bible finishes its last book by saying that it will end. The Bible says that the work of the church will end. And that is what we see today. Nobody believes the Bible any more. Nobody trusts the bible any more. Even the Vatican have started making press statements in the last few years that completely contradict what the Bible says. Its like the Bible, and all its stories just can't be trusted anymore. But the funny thing is, the bible itself predicts this just before the end of Humanity. Its science! Science is the Beast in book of revelation. Its science that is ending religion. Science is stripping religion nakid in the streets and science is leaving religion dead. But only just at the very end, when we have all the rules of science, that it will then become apparent that its was scientists that actually wrote the bible. Human scientists who discovered genetic engineering and modified their own genes to make them immortal. Its utterly shocking. And i have the final chapter of the book. I have the key that ends the whole thing. And if i don't publish it, someone else will discover what i discovered and they will publish it. So its not that i'm special, cos i'm not. Its just that i discovered the "old book" first. John. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
My knowledge of genetics may not be great. My ability to research falsehoods seems to be quite good. In that other thread you were provided with academic papers to counter you claims, your argument then was the same as it is now, state that others do not have expertise matching yours, while providing no evidence. you're more likely to get dazzled by his brylcream. In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
It sounds like he is talking about time travel. Humans who discoverd genetics and made themselves imortal. And in past posts he said that 5 or 6,000 years ago mankind was gentically enginered. [/quote] Old James |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
It sounds like he is talking about time travel. Humans who discoverd genetics and made themselves imortal. And in past posts he said that 5 or 6,000 years ago mankind was gentically enginered. Well, 6000 years later, that experiment seems to have failed. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
unless we were supposed to have the lifespans of Bacteria In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
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