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Message 1280625 - Posted: 6 Sep 2012, 16:32:21 UTC - in response to Message 1280520.  
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After i publish the decoded version of the "old book", the glory of God will shine from the heavens. God's angels will descend from the heavens and a new Earth will appear. It will be the end of humanity as we know it. Everyone will see God's glory shine. Every human being on Earth will see the New Jerusalem descend from heaven. And the Lord God Jesus Christ will come down and reign as King of Kings in the New Jerusalem.


You do know Johnney that you are going to get challenged on this by others! 2010: Odyssey Two has a similar ending, with a new star in the sky, but back to your statement.

Version 1 - A spaceship with attending escort craft will land and take over the world.

Version 2 - A new understanding of peace, and a new world order without conflict appears.

Can't wait for either actually, we will see won't we. Any ideas yet on what you will do if neither eventually transpires?


Chris my friend,
Yes, many people will challenge my publication. And as time goes on, more and more people who understand the Bible will stand behind me and back me up. Thousands of people will back me up, and support me. Ten thousand times ten thousand people will stand behind me and will defend the words of the Lord God Almighty. A great army of angles will defend the word of the Lord God, and he will rain down fire and brimstone on those who have mocked his word. Those who try to slander the words i write in my publication will have to answer to the Lord God. And they shall be judged according to their deeds, and words, and actions.

Chris all this was written down thousands of years ago in the Holy Bible. All i'm doing is .......... i'm doing what ever the Lord God asks me to do. I will do it exactly as it says in the book. There is no "if" Chris. This is going to happen. There is no doubt, there is no more uncertainty, its going to happen. I'm going to publish the work i have been doing. Its only recently that i actually realised the immensity of what i have found.

Chris i don't know anything about any spaceships. Nor do i know about the plot of the latest episode of star trek, or the plot of the latest sci-fi film. I said this before, there are thousands of books and films with plots that are closely based on events described in the Bible.

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Message 1280628 - Posted: 6 Sep 2012, 16:42:49 UTC - in response to Message 1280593.  
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Its going to happen exactly like it says in the Bible. And its going to happen soon! Its just going to take me a little longer to translate the book.

John.


I think I may have heard that kind of comment before. Got anything better than "soon", is it days, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries, millenia (all "soon" from a geological perspective)?

Bobby,
Its difficult to say exactly because its proving difficult to read some of the pages of the old book. Many of the pages are damaged beyond repair and i can't read them. Many more pages are only partly readable. Even with the pages of the book that are in good condition, its still difficult to read the information on the pages. So its going to take time!

My current estimate would be "years" rather than any lesser time period. When i first found the old book, i thought i could quickly decipher some of the pages. But it has turned out to be much more difficult than i originally thought. The book is very old and very damaged. It will be a few years before i have compiled enough to publish.

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Message 1280826 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 1:51:23 UTC - in response to Message 1280628.  

Its going to happen exactly like it says in the Bible. And its going to happen soon! Its just going to take me a little longer to translate the book.

John.


I think I may have heard that kind of comment before. Got anything better than "soon", is it days, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries, millenia (all "soon" from a geological perspective)?

Bobby,
Its difficult to say exactly because its proving difficult to read some of the pages of the old book. Many of the pages are damaged beyond repair and i can't read them. Many more pages are only partly readable. Even with the pages of the book that are in good condition, its still difficult to read the information on the pages. So its going to take time!

My current estimate would be "years" rather than any lesser time period. When i first found the old book, i thought i could quickly decipher some of the pages. But it has turned out to be much more difficult than i originally thought. The book is very old and very damaged. It will be a few years before i have compiled enough to publish.

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I'm sorry, but the Atlanteans have that book, and they're safe and sound under Cadiz (though suffering a bit from hypobaria).
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Message 1280833 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 1:59:21 UTC - in response to Message 1280628.  

Johnney, I do so hope you are correct, if I live so long it would be most interesting to see.
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Message 1280905 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 6:56:55 UTC - in response to Message 1280833.  

Johnney, I do so hope you are correct, if I live so long it would be most interesting to see.

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I'm slowly picking away at decoding the old book, like i said, its slow and difficult work. But i do this now full time, i do 70 to 80 hour working weeks, sometimes longer.

In theory, i could make a break-through in the decoding work that would speed the whole thing up. But that break-through would involve a lot of luck. It would be a hit and miss thing. I'm effectively deciphering types of "letters" and "numbers". Its like trying to find which letters are "A" and "B" and "C". In theory, if i connect enough of them together, the whole alphabet would open up very quickly for me. If i get the "A" and "B" and "C", very quickly i will have all the other letters and numbers. That is a very simplistic explanation for what i am doing.

It could take many years. But if i get lucky with the sequences, it will happen much quicker.

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Message 1280909 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 7:08:38 UTC - in response to Message 1280826.  
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I'm sorry, but the Atlanteans have that book, and they're safe and sound under Cadiz (though suffering a bit from hypobaria).

Sarge,
Yea, i saw that program on Discovery channel too. The evidence to suggest that Atlantis is on the south west coast of Spain is very thin indeed. If Atlantis ever did exist, it was probably somewhere in the Caribbean. No, i didn't get the old book in Atlantis, unfortunately.....LOL

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Message 1280925 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 8:22:39 UTC
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If i get the "A" and "B" and "C", very quickly i will have all the other letters and numbers. That is a very simplistic explanation for what i am doing.

It could take many years. But if i get lucky with the sequences, it will happen much quicker.

This seems to suggest that the texts you are working with are in a foreign language or hieroglyphics. Why not use the basic rule of decryption where you work on the most common letters in a language first. In English they are in order, ETAOIN.

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Message 1280939 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 10:00:34 UTC - in response to Message 1280925.  
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If i get the "A" and "B" and "C", very quickly i will have all the other letters and numbers. That is a very simplistic explanation for what i am doing.

It could take many years. But if i get lucky with the sequences, it will happen much quicker.

This seems to suggest that the texts you are working with are in a foreign language or hieroglyphics. Why not use the basic rule of decryption where you work on the most common letters in a language first. In English they are in order, ETAOIN.

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Thanks Chris,
Thanks for the link. I added it to my notes!

Chris as i said, that example is very simplistic. But its a very good analogy for what i'm doing. And yes, you could say the old book is in a foreign language. Thats a very reasonable description, to say the least!

I am very aware of the use of frequency analysis in decoding cryptographic information. I have been attacking the problem from many very different angles. And i have made progress in the last year and a half. I have over 50 Gigabytes of data stored at this stage and i have purchased back-up hard disks for storing large amounts of data. I have everything backed up on a 2 Terabyte hard drive just in case anything goes wrong. I have also given instruction to family members as to what to do in the event of my accidental death or if i'm incapacitated in some way. So no matter what happens, people are going to hear about the work i have done. Even if i'm killed in a car accident or something like that. I'm covering every angle. If i'm killed by accident, the information will go to my Son when he reaches 18 years of age, with instructions about what to do with the information.

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Message 1280963 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 11:14:42 UTC

He was waiting for his computer to boot up so he could play his own version of Sim Universe
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Message 1284026 - Posted: 15 Sep 2012, 11:24:54 UTC - in response to Message 1280939.  

Erm.... as you've got the data in electronic form, how about letting us have a look at a page or two?
Never know, may help speed things up a bit!
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Message 1284163 - Posted: 15 Sep 2012, 17:32:34 UTC - in response to Message 1279484.  

Robert I have the answer.
Nothing!
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Message 1284201 - Posted: 15 Sep 2012, 18:57:07 UTC - in response to Message 1280963.  

He was waiting for his computer to boot up so he could play his own version of Sim Universe

ROFLMAO......we are all Sims.
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Message 1284206 - Posted: 15 Sep 2012, 19:05:20 UTC - in response to Message 1284026.  
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Erm.... as you've got the data in electronic form, how about letting us have a look at a page or two?
Never know, may help speed things up a bit!
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Phil,
Over the last year and a half, i have discussed many aspects of the "old book" i am researching here on these SETI message boards. I have posted lots of information about the old book. But Phil i have never told anyone the name of the old book, nor have i ever given enough information for anyone to find the old book by reading my messages. I can't Phil, i can't give out the name of the book until my decoding work is complete. But there is tonnes of information on the internet about the old book.

Phil i also told everyone here that the old book is NOT hidden. In fact its on public display and many millions of people have seen the old book. Every year, millions of people see the book and everybody knows about the old book. Academics in universities study the old book on a professional basis, they do it full time. So its not hidden is any way. Everybody is completely free to do exactly the same research that i am doing. Nobody is stopping you, all the information is public.

If your curious about what i have said about the old book, your welcome to comb through the old messages i have posted on this forum over the last year and a half. But it will take you several hours to read all my old messages.

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Message 1284210 - Posted: 15 Sep 2012, 19:21:11 UTC
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What did God do before creation?

Asking questions "Robert" to which you will not be satisfied unless and until you hear the answers you want to hear is not rational; something you claim to be.


"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He made us accepted in the Beloved."
~Ephesians 1. 3-6

And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.
~ John 17.5

You cannot even tell us how we was created. You cannot prove that all of this "creation" was by chance. You cannot tell me with proof that there is no God. You cannot prove anything that you claim yet you want me to believe that you are rational and sincere in your questions. Just by the way you have asked it is clear that you are neither rational and or sincere.

So, what is it that you really want? Argument till I lose my temper and get kicked off again? Kicked off for the something that everyone else does yet they still remain? Are you all keeping score or something? What is it that you really want. Don't B.S. me Robert, you can't B.S. me. I see right through all of you. Transparent as cheap toilet paper most of you are.
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Message 1284212 - Posted: 15 Sep 2012, 19:23:56 UTC

God created the heavens and the earth.

And you question when, how, why, and where He did so?

LOL, I should think the accomplishment would speak for itself.

Some of you make me grin.
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Message 1284294 - Posted: 15 Sep 2012, 23:08:20 UTC - in response to Message 1284212.  

God created the heavens and the earth.

And you question when, how, why, and where He did so?

LOL, I should think the accomplishment would speak for itself.

Some of you make me grin.

Meow!

That is a seriously good answer for the Believers.


However, that still leaves the question of all the inconsistencies and dogma that cloud the story of what "He" (She/It?) actually might have done...

Too much Anthropomorphism clouding the beer/whiskey?...


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Message 1284296 - Posted: 15 Sep 2012, 23:19:03 UTC - in response to Message 1284210.  

ID, it is good to see you return, your cogent thinking provides insight for many. I do think you take too many breaks. OBW, I have never used a red x except for my own double posts.
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Message 1284298 - Posted: 15 Sep 2012, 23:23:14 UTC - in response to Message 1284294.  
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God created the heavens and the earth.

And you question when, how, why, and where He did so?

LOL, I should think the accomplishment would speak for itself.

Some of you make me grin.

Meow!

That is a seriously good answer for the Believers.


However, that still leaves the question of all the inconsistencies and dogma that cloud the story of what "He" (She/It?) actually might have done...

Too much Anthropomorphism clouding the beer/whiskey?...


Keep searchin',
Martin

Not so, my friend.

I think my simply starting these threads on the subject and proclaiming my belief does Him justice.

So few these days would even bother to do so.

I have opened myself to such ridicule as the heathens might throw at me.
Compared to Jesus, a very small price to pay.

Sling them rocks now, boyz.
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Message 1284302 - Posted: 15 Sep 2012, 23:30:55 UTC - in response to Message 1284296.  

ID, it is good to see you return, your cogent thinking provides insight for many. I do think you take too many breaks. OBW, I have never used a red x except for my own double posts.


Forced breaks. As I said, done NOTHING that no one else have ever done yet I'm the one forced to take a vacation. Defined as Intellectual cowardice for MANY here.

I have no reason not to believe you about the x'es. Fair enough.
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Message 1284320 - Posted: 16 Sep 2012, 0:36:10 UTC - in response to Message 1279484.  

So, just what did God do before creating the universe?

Probably not a lot, he doesn't exist.

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Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.
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