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Message 1355699 - Posted: 11 Apr 2013, 14:59:26 UTC
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Leaves me stone cold, it's just an electronic filofax. Lose it and your whole life disappears. Backups? Hahaha they don't do it at home, so why bother with one of those? 21C Yuppies all over again with more money than sense

Well now I know you are possibly not up to date with the "modern phone" but certainly on my iPhone or iPad it only takes one button press to set "backup" to the "iCloud". I recently went onto a new contract iPhone, when setting it up you can download your old phones automatic backup straight to you new phone. In a few minutes my brand new phone had everything from my old phone, including contacts, music, photos and browser settings. Also any photo I take with either iPhone or iPad is automatically copied to the other device and a folder on my PC.

It almost all automatic, you just have to remember your Apple ID and password. If you set it to use the iCloud, backups are automatic when you are logged onto Wi-Fi and the phone is not in use, usually overnight.

Being able to get e-mail, texts, phone calls, maps, music and a decent camera all on one handy device is great for me.
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Message 1355719 - Posted: 11 Apr 2013, 15:48:14 UTC - in response to Message 1355699.  

Android runs a cloud?

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Message 1355738 - Posted: 11 Apr 2013, 16:13:09 UTC

Nothing but icing on the cake for power companies......

Are electric cars environmentally friendly?

Link from the above....Who drives electric cars?

I'd consider one if the range was a minimum 200 miles (London & back).
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Message 1355764 - Posted: 11 Apr 2013, 16:50:26 UTC

Scared of flying? Yes? Then DON'T READ THIS

Phone App to hijack a plane

Only a proof of concept at the moment, but its damned scary all the same.....
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Message 1356091 - Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 13:47:58 UTC

I have an external authorised cruncher here at the moment. Gave it its annual cleaning service, rebuilt it, connected to my network & let it update the various updates required (if any, i.e, MSE, flash etc) - about 40mins. no problems.

Returned it to customer & totally embarrassed! Every time it boots up & log in, approx. 5 secs after logging in, it shuts down. Spent an hour there checking it out & can't find anything wrong with components, so did one last test to ensure that the problem was not the HSF incorrectly installed.

Ran for 17 mins, then shut it down & brought it back here. Connected up & I can't see any issues as its not shutting down.

It's running XP Home SP3 & is Net-15

Ideas anyone?
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Message 1356096 - Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 14:03:17 UTC - in response to Message 1356091.  

I have an external authorised cruncher here at the moment. Gave it its annual cleaning service, rebuilt it, connected to my network & let it update the various updates required (if any, i.e, MSE, flash etc) - about 40mins. no problems.

Returned it to customer & totally embarrassed! Every time it boots up & log in, approx. 5 secs after logging in, it shuts down. Spent an hour there checking it out & can't find anything wrong with components, so did one last test to ensure that the problem was not the HSF incorrectly installed.

Ran for 17 mins, then shut it down & brought it back here. Connected up & I can't see any issues as its not shutting down.

It's running XP Home SP3 & is Net-15

Ideas anyone?

In my past experience, most 'weird' computer behavior has been related to...

1. RAM problems. Trying to run it too fast or at 1t timings instead of 2t or 3t.

2. PSU going wonky or overloaded. This can be hard to track, only subbing in a 'known good' PSU of equal or higher capacity might confirm it. I have had PSUs that seemed good get weak on just one voltage rail and would boot but crash under load.

First thing I always do is get into the bios and lock down the RAM settings and be sure the timing is set to 2t, not 1t.

"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

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Message 1356098 - Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 14:11:09 UTC - in response to Message 1356096.  
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Thanks Mark, I'll test out with a good psu. as for ram timings, never change them from the defaults as not into overclocking.

But will also swap out ram just in case it could be a bad stick.
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Message 1356100 - Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 14:13:28 UTC - in response to Message 1356098.  

Thanks Mark, I'll test out with a good psu. as for ram timings, never change them from the defaults as not into overclocking.

I would still set them to manual and lock them in place.
There have been more than a few instances where the 'auto' settings in some bios's get too aggressive and go for 1t timings, which then make the rig unstable at best.
"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

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Message 1356111 - Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 14:35:57 UTC - in response to Message 1356100.  

Wasn't aware of that Mark so thanks again.
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Message 1356623 - Posted: 13 Apr 2013, 19:32:57 UTC - in response to Message 1356091.  

I have an external authorised cruncher here at the moment. Gave it its annual cleaning service, rebuilt it, connected to my network & let it update the various updates required (if any, i.e, MSE, flash etc) - about 40mins. no problems.

Returned it to customer & totally embarrassed! Every time it boots up & log in, approx. 5 secs after logging in, it shuts down. Spent an hour there checking it out & can't find anything wrong with components, so did one last test to ensure that the problem was not the HSF incorrectly installed.

Ran for 17 mins, then shut it down & brought it back here. Connected up & I can't see any issues as its not shutting down.

It's running XP Home SP3 & is Net-15

Ideas anyone?


Im just talking out of my hat here, But maybe the owners house has a wonky power connection? Bad connection to ground or loose wire to an outlet? If it runs good where you are at but not there. Just a guess on my part.
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Message 1356631 - Posted: 13 Apr 2013, 20:07:25 UTC - in response to Message 1356623.  


Im just talking out of my hat here, But maybe the owners house has a wonky power connection? Bad connection to ground or loose wire to an outlet? If it runs good where you are at but not there. Just a guess on my part.


That's more than likely possible James as I've completely rebuilt it & still no issues here. In fact, it's just finished downloading updates.

Saying that, you have made me think on that - they are running everything, printer, base unit, monitor off a 4 socket extension lead, which itself is connected to another which has other devices pugged in, like phone charger.

Will test it on a separate socket there tomorrow.
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Message 1356644 - Posted: 13 Apr 2013, 20:55:18 UTC - in response to Message 1356631.  


Im just talking out of my hat here, But maybe the owners house has a wonky power connection? Bad connection to ground or loose wire to an outlet? If it runs good where you are at but not there. Just a guess on my part.


That's more than likely possible James as I've completely rebuilt it & still no issues here. In fact, it's just finished downloading updates.

Saying that, you have made me think on that - they are running everything, printer, base unit, monitor off a 4 socket extension lead, which itself is connected to another which has other devices pugged in, like phone charger.

Will test it on a separate socket there tomorrow.


Well let us know what you find out.
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Message 1356663 - Posted: 13 Apr 2013, 22:32:07 UTC - in response to Message 1356644.  

I will. Because it is still bugging me, after it finished its updating, shut it down & pulled the replacement psu & ram. Installed the originals back & booted up......

...no problems whatsoever, so......

...I'm going to check their sockets tomorrow.

My guess is that one or more sockets on the extension lead is shorting out.
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Message 1356699 - Posted: 14 Apr 2013, 1:18:41 UTC

May not be a short as much as an open causing a "brown out"

If you have a volt meter in your bag of tricks ...

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Message 1356974 - Posted: 14 Apr 2013, 22:54:40 UTC

Well, I'm no electrician & it's a good job I had the presence of mind to video the system connected to my network & showing it working & updating.

Returned it to customer this afternoon & it still shutdown, so disconnected all the extensions leads & plugged directly to the 2 main wall sockets in the room.

Still shutting down, so tried in another room , same issue. While talking to the customer, was told that every morning she has to reset the clock on the microwave.

All I could suggest was that she has an electrician check out the wiring in her home.

Showed her the video & she paid for the work. she will call an electrician tomorrow.

All I can say is this is a weird one! all other electrical devices are working ok, but I've found that computers & microwaves are susceptible to minute fluctuations in the power supply.
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Message 1356975 - Posted: 14 Apr 2013, 22:59:02 UTC - in response to Message 1356974.  



Still shutting down, so tried in another room , same issue. While talking to the customer, was told that every morning she has to reset the clock on the microwave.


If the power is not stable enough to keep the microwave clock running, it's no wonder it would cause computer problems.

I hope the electrician gets there before something gets set alight!
"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

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Message 1357000 - Posted: 15 Apr 2013, 0:14:40 UTC

I would of brought a quality UPS to the customer's home. Hooked up to the outlet(s), plugged in a load(not computer) and seen how The Power Reacted.

If it ran properly without going On Battery, I would then have hooked up The Offending Computer and seen how it goes.

If all went well, then mains/outlets need a look.

You don't need to be an electrician to pull the fuse, close the breaker to the outlets(s), pull the outlet, and make sure the wires are properly secured.

Or plug in any of a number of fault checkers. All Computer Techs should have these tools and abilities At The Ready.

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Message 1357016 - Posted: 15 Apr 2013, 1:14:39 UTC - in response to Message 1357000.  

I would of brought a quality UPS to the customer's home. Hooked up to the outlet(s), plugged in a load(not computer) and seen how The Power Reacted.

If it ran properly without going On Battery, I would then have hooked up The Offending Computer and seen how it goes.

If all went well, then mains/outlets need a look.

You don't need to be an electrician to pull the fuse, close the breaker to the outlets(s), pull the outlet, and make sure the wires are properly secured.

Or plug in any of a number of fault checkers. All Computer Techs should have these tools and abilities At The Ready.

Bound For It.


Correct, but you've forgotten the most important issue of all.....

...just who is going to pay for the tech's time? Most home users want it done quick & cheap!
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Message 1357021 - Posted: 15 Apr 2013, 1:32:56 UTC

...just who is going to pay for the tech's time? Most home users want it done quick & cheap!


Tech Pays. By Not Wasting Time to begin with On Useless Troubleshooting and Guesswork.

Come To The Show Properly Equipped In Brain and Tools.

Why Should Anyone Pay For Wasting Time On Incompetence?

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Message 1357024 - Posted: 15 Apr 2013, 1:59:36 UTC - in response to Message 1357021.  

Until now, your posts have proved to be a laugh a minute......

..you ever heard of liability?

As for brains & tools, you've already proven publicly via these boards that those are the things you're lacking.
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