Give BOINC some time, it still does not know how fast your ATI is (so asks for less work for it).
With time BOINC will learn how much work per day your ATI can do and will increase the number of tasks for it.

I had this video card in my old system for a few weeks and had similar issues. Its difficult for me to accept that Boinc will figure this out on its own. I am impatiant to get my system functioning at %100 percent of capacity.

My system has now finished all the ati work units and uploaded them....no new ati wu have downloaded or are scheduled to attempt to download.

Any idea how long I should wait?

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Since the addition of the config file i have noticed my system downloads 4 files at a time instead of the 2 it used to.

Yes, this is the reason:
<max_file_xfers_per_project>4</max_file_xfers_per_project>

#2 How do I get Boinc to actually use the Ati card aswell as the Nvidia gts?

Give BOINC some time, it still does not know how fast your ATI is (so asks for less work for it).
With time BOINC will learn how much work per day your ATI can do and will increase the number of tasks for it.

#3 How do I keep my que full of work so that when we experience these pesky outages every thing keeps working.

You already know the answer:

1) Maintain enough tasks to keep busy for at least 5-10 days
... and up to an additional 0.10 days

2) Use SIV (you have the link (Message 1272722)) - no install needed:
Get siv.zip
Extract it
Start SIV (use SIV64X.exe for Windows 7 Professional x64)
Right-click [Windows] button (or use the arrow in it) -> BOINC Status
Check 'Auto Retry'

(you can now minimize the 'BOINC Status' window, do not exit it for 'Auto Retry' to work)

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- ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :)
 

Finished the last Ati unit 2 hours ago....held on to it till just now when I manually updated.

Currently my que has:
2 AP cpu wu
1 AP ATI wu
50 (or so) 6.03 Seti cpu wu
70 (or so) 6.10 seit Cuda units

System downloaded a signle Astropulse Ati unit it is now the only work for the ati card. The system will finish working on this single unit by 3 am. At which time it will almost certianly sit on that work till I wake up and poke it some.


#2 How do I get Boinc to actually use the Ati card aswell as the Nvidia gts?
So the ati card and nvidia are both functional(sortof)
#3 How do I keep my que full of work so that when we experience these pesky outages every thing keeps working.
There is lots of work for my cpu and nvidia card but comparativly no work at all for the ati card.
#4 (new point)How do I keep the fastest processor(my HD 5770 ATI) in my computer busy 100% of the time?

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Finished 9 of 10 ATI units(50% complete with the 10th). Currently downloading another 30 cuda units and 0 ATI units.

Since the addition of the config file i have noticed my system downloads 4 files at a time instead of the 2 it used to.

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Just got 10 ati none ap unit... I would guess I have almost 100 cdua units in que.

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Locally on the system.

In case its messing with thing, I just went and edited the online prefrences to be more in line with my system settings.

Currently no ATI work of any kind on my system.

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8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | SETI@home | URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 6738595; resource share 100
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | SETI@home | General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 11-Aug-2012 18:20:09)
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | SETI@home | Host location: none
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | SETI@home | General prefs: using your defaults
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | Reading preferences override file
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | Preferences:
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | max memory usage when active: 4095.56MB
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | max memory usage when idle: 7372.00MB
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | max disk usage: 100.00GB
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | Not using a proxy
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | SETI@home | Started download of 21jl10ac.13370.9746.4.10.37

Where have you been setting your computing preferences? on the Website or in Boinc Manager, at the moment the local preferences from Boinc Manager are in use,

Claggy

8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.0.28 for windows_x86_64
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, sched_op_debug
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.25.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.6
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | Running under account Jim
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz [Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 10]
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | Processor: 6.00 MB cache
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 syscall nx lm vmx smx tm2 pbe
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Professional x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | Memory: 8.00 GB physical, 16.00 GB virtual
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | Disk: 232.79 GB total, 191.35 GB free
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | Local time is UTC -4 hours
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 8800 GTS (driver version 301.42, CUDA version 4.20, compute capability 1.0, 320MB, 166MB available, 389 GFLOPS peak)
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | ATI GPU 0: Juniper (CAL version 1.4.1741, 1024MB, 991MB available, 2720 GFLOPS peak)
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 8800 GTS (driver version 301.42, device version OpenCL 1.0 CUDA, 320MB, 166MB available)
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | OpenCL: ATI GPU 0: Juniper (driver version CAL 1.4.1741 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (938.1), 1024MB, 991MB available)
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | SETI@home | Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | Config: use all coprocessors
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | SETI@home | URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 6738595; resource share 100
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | SETI@home | General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 11-Aug-2012 18:20:09)
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | SETI@home | Host location: none
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | SETI@home | General prefs: using your defaults
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | Reading preferences override file
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | Preferences:
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | max memory usage when active: 4095.56MB
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | max memory usage when idle: 7372.00MB
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | max disk usage: 100.00GB
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | | Not using a proxy
8/18/2012 3:36:39 PM | SETI@home | Started download of 21jl10ac.13370.9746.4.10.37

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8/18/2012 4:24:40 PM | SETI@home | Started download of ap_19my10ab_B2_P0_00205_20120818_18915.wu
8/18/2012 4:25:20 PM | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of ap_19my10ab_B2_P0_00205_20120818_18915.wu: transient HTTP error
8/18/2012 4:25:20 PM | SETI@home | Backing off 3 hr 9 min 10 sec on download of ap_19my10ab_B2_P0_00205_20120818_18915.wu
8/18/2012 4:25:35 PM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
8/18/2012 4:25:37 PM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.

I think you're just asking for work because you're got downloads backed off, you'll just have to dod a bit of button bashing, and network suspend/resume to get them going,

You could also get SIV, as well as telling all sorts of things about your system, it'll also retry Boinc downloads, you just have to run it on the Boinc Status page, and select retry downloads.

Claggy

O.K, make sure you haven't got any Setiathome tasks suspended, as Boinc won't ask for work if there are any, also make sure you haven't got No New Tasks selected (you shouldn't have as you got CPU AP earlier)

(Boinc 7.0.31 and later will actually tell you why you didn't ask for work)

Can you post your startup messages please, the first 20 to 30 lines will do,

Claggy

8/18/2012 4:23:21 PM | SETI@home | Not reporting or requesting tasks
8/18/2012 4:23:21 PM | SETI@home | [sched_op] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices
8/18/2012 4:23:21 PM | SETI@home | [sched_op] NVIDIA work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices
8/18/2012 4:23:21 PM | SETI@home | [sched_op] ATI work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices
8/18/2012 4:23:24 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed
8/18/2012 4:23:24 PM | SETI@home | [sched_op] Server version 701
8/18/2012 4:23:24 PM | SETI@home | Project requested delay of 303 seconds
8/18/2012 4:23:24 PM | SETI@home | [sched_op] Deferring communication for 5 min 3 sec
8/18/2012 4:23:24 PM | SETI@home | [sched_op] Reason: requested by project
8/18/2012 4:23:29 PM | | Suspending network activity - user request
8/18/2012 4:23:33 PM | | Resuming network activity
8/18/2012 4:23:34 PM | SETI@home | update requested by user
8/18/2012 4:23:38 PM | SETI@home | [sched_op] Starting scheduler request
8/18/2012 4:23:38 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
8/18/2012 4:23:38 PM | SETI@home | Not reporting or requesting tasks
8/18/2012 4:23:38 PM | SETI@home | [sched_op] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices
8/18/2012 4:23:38 PM | SETI@home | [sched_op] NVIDIA work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices
8/18/2012 4:23:38 PM | SETI@home | [sched_op] ATI work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices
8/18/2012 4:23:42 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed
8/18/2012 4:23:42 PM | SETI@home | [sched_op] Server version 701
8/18/2012 4:23:42 PM | SETI@home | Project requested delay of 303 seconds
8/18/2012 4:23:42 PM | SETI@home | [sched_op] Deferring communication for 5 min 3 sec
8/18/2012 4:23:42 PM | SETI@home | [sched_op] Reason: requested by project
8/18/2012 4:24:40 PM | SETI@home | Started download of ap_19my10ab_B2_P0_00205_20120818_18915.wu
8/18/2012 4:25:20 PM | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of ap_19my10ab_B2_P0_00205_20120818_18915.wu: transient HTTP error
8/18/2012 4:25:20 PM | SETI@home | Backing off 3 hr 9 min 10 sec on download of ap_19my10ab_B2_P0_00205_20120818_18915.wu
8/18/2012 4:25:35 PM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
8/18/2012 4:25:37 PM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.

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k claggy i got it.
Writen saved and restarted. Now what?

Are any downloads backed off?

Just hit update for the Setiathome project, (your last request was at 17:53:37 UTC, over two hours ago) post your request from the event log, (Shift+Ctrl+E)

Remember, you can only ask once every 5 minutes and three seconds,

Claggy

k claggy i got it.
Writen saved and restarted. Now what?

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I have changed my buffer size to 5 and .01

I manually "retry now" downloading that AP work unit 15 times, over a 6 hour period.

It did just finally finish downloading and is now humming along a just over a % a minute. Which seem pretty fast. However 10+ hours to download 90minutes of work with constant user intervention aint cutting it for me.

I just want it to work like the nvidia ....50 plus units served up and ready to go.

I will see if i can't follow your instuctions here...getting to the proper directory is a pain....Windows 7 defaults to not letting me see that entire system directory and I don't know how to change that setting.

My current work buffer is set to Min 2 days Maz additional 0.5 Days. (per the instruction of multiple forum members)

For Boinc 7 we got a new work fetch scheduler, Try making your cache settings 5 days + 0.01 days,

this will cache 5 days work minimum, then every 0.01 days it'll try and top up to full again, (otherwise it'll wait half a day before asking again)

Claggy

It would appear I haven't missed any settings, Boinc and Lunatics just arent capable of making this card function properly.

I shouldn't have purchased an ati card for seti. 97% of the top 500 faster seti crunchers use nvidia.

I think your only problem at the moment (Boinc wise) is that you need to download some work, (Boinc 6.12.x and later backoff downloads quicker, and for longer than Boinc 6.10.x and earlier)

O.K, If you go to the transfers tab, then use the shift key to select your backed-off downloads, then select 'Retry Now',

Since DNS switches between the two download servers every five minutes you might get slow downloads on whichever server is overloaded,
If you try going to the Activity menu, and selecting 'Network activity suspended', then reselect the previous network setting,
this can have the effect of switching your downloads to the other download server, you might need to try this a couple of times,

After that it's just a case of making sure you're got the right cache settings, making sure Boinc asks for the right type of work,

If you make an cc_config.xml (with Notepad) with the following in it, drop it in your Boinc Data directory, and restart Boinc, you'll see how much CPU/Nvidia/ATI work you're requesting:

<cc_config>
<log_flags>
<sched_op_debug>1</sched_op_debug>
</log_flags> 
<options>
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
<max_file_xfers>10</max_file_xfers>
<max_file_xfers_per_project>4</max_file_xfers_per_project>
<max_tasks_reported>100</max_tasks_reported>
<save_stats_days>760</save_stats_days>
</options>
</cc_config>

Claggy

No one respoonded to one item in your first post:

#1 How do I set my ati card as my main monitor card?

That's usually a BIOS setting. If your BIOS has only one choice for display from PCI-E, you might have to switch slots. Or maybe someone knows what to do with two cards.

There's also a Windows Display setting to select the Main Display too,

On the Desktop, right click and select 'Screen Resolution', on the 'Change the appearance of displays' screen, select the Display that you want to use, then click the 'Make this is my Main Display' checkbox,
(this is assuming you're got monitors connected to both GPUs)

Claggy

I only have 1 monitor...and did try to us the windows menu but have been unable so fare to make the switch.

I had wrist surgery on wenesday...so pain killers are making me a little extra foggy. I will give this thread a few more day to come up with a better answer than pullin the card. But if there isn't a better answer ebay is its next stop.

It would appear I haven't missed any settings, Boinc and Lunatics just arent capable of making this card function properly.

I shouldn't have purchased an ati card for seti. 97% of the top 500 faster seti crunchers use nvidia.

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No one respoonded to one item in your first post:

#1 How do I set my ati card as my main monitor card?

That's usually a BIOS setting. If your BIOS has only one choice for display from PCI-E, you might have to switch slots. Or maybe someone knows what to do with two cards.

There's also a Windows Display setting to select the Main Display too,

On the Desktop, right click and select 'Screen Resolution', on the 'Change the appearance of displays' screen, select the Display that you want to use, then click the 'Make this is my Main Display' checkbox,
(this is assuming you're got monitors connected to both GPUs)

Claggy

Thank you for addressing my first question. :)

I have web settings but I change the settings in boinc to effect the normal operation of boinc.


It would seem that selling the ATI card and picking up a faster nvidia is the only option available to me at the moment.

Still 0 ATI units to work on....WTS boinc.
Boinc has been trying to down 2 AP unit for 6 hours....(only 1 of which will be for the ATI)

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My current work buffer is set to Min 2 days Maz additional 0.5 Days. (per the instruction of multiple forum members)

Changing that to 3 and 3 will fix my 70:50:0.5 work ratio?

Those settings will work, but the higher settings will get you more AP's. AP work flow is intermittent - splitters complete their files quickly, then no work for a day or two until the multibeam splitters catch up and more files are mounted. Thus, it's best to stock up when they are available.

If you are using the web based cache settings, you need to make sure the setting in BOINC doesn't override it. Any computer preference you have set in in BOINC invokes the override, and the web based settings are not used. Use the clear button on one of the computing prefernce tabs to reset BOINC settings if you want to use the web settings I prefer the BOINC settings and think it would work better with multiple computers.

No one respoonded to one item in your first post:

#1 How do I set my ati card as my main monitor card?

That's usually a BIOS setting. If your BIOS has only one choice for display from PCI-E, you might have to switch slots. Or maybe someone knows what to do with two cards.

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