There was also Blue Streak John.

It all started with Harold Wilson's post 1964 Labour Government, with the cancellation of -

Black Knight

Blue Steel

The TSR2 swing winged bomber in favour of the US F111 (which was never delivered).

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It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues

Just finished watching an excellent 2 part documentary from the BBC....

Jet: When Britain ruled the skies Not sure this is available outside UK

The end of part 1 says it all: - The Hawker Harrier was the last all British design/build.... & it looks like the Yanks getting a "bargain basement" deal.....USMC buying decommissioned harriers

Fare Thee Well British Ingenuity

If im not mistaken our B-57 canberra bomber was a British desing also. When I was staioned at Tyndall AFB Florida, we had a squadron of them.

Indeed it was the FIRST jet bomber, flown by air forces worldwide.

Designed & Bulit.

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I worked for Hawker Siddeley Aviation at Ham Common, Kingston Upon Thames, from 1973 to 1975. I was in the Works Engineering Dept, and supported the last of the Hunter refurbishment programme, the Harrier manufacture, and the then prototype Hawk flight testing at Dunsfold aerodrome in Surrey.

Various British Governments have a lot to answer for over the demise of the UK Aircraft industry.

Just finished watching an excellent 2 part documentary from the BBC....

Jet: When Britain ruled the skies Not sure this is available outside UK

The end of part 1 says it all: - The Hawker Harrier was the last all British design/build.... & it looks like the Yanks getting a "bargain basement" deal.....USMC buying decommissioned harriers

Fare Thee Well British Ingenuity

If im not mistaken our B-57 canberra bomber was a British desing also. When I was staioned at Tyndall AFB Florida, we had a squadron of them.

Indeed it was the FIRST jet bomber, flown by air forces worldwide.

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Just finished watching an excellent 2 part documentary from the BBC....

Jet: When Britain ruled the skies Not sure this is available outside UK

The end of part 1 says it all: - The Hawker Harrier was the last all British design/build.... & it looks like the Yanks getting a "bargain basement" deal.....USMC buying decommissioned harriers

Fare Thee Well British Ingenuity

If im not mistaken our B-57 canberra bomber was a British desing also. When I was staioned at Tyndall AFB Florida, we had a squadron of them.

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Old James

I saw the same documentary, part two was about airliners. The Vickers VC10 which was retired from passenger use in 1980. Still holds the record for the fastest subsonic (ie not Concord) crossing of the Atlantic from London to JFK.

It was pensioned off along with the British aircraft industry because BOAC (BA now) liked the Boeing 707 because it could carry more passengers, despite Vickers having built the VC10 to BOAC's specification.

Britain was great once and we we first in a lot of fields. Sadly no longer.

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Just finished watching an excellent 2 part documentary from the BBC....

Jet: When Britain ruled the skies Not sure this is available outside UK

The end of part 1 says it all: - The Hawker Harrier was the last all British design/build.... & it looks like the Yanks getting a "bargain basement" deal.....USMC buying decommissioned harriers

Fare Thee Well British Ingenuity

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Hiyah Rob,

I think that it always seems that it was more sensible in the past. But then as we get older, we do tend to reminisce about the "good old days" without fully remembering that actually they probably weren't always that good in the first place!

Yes, we had to make do with what we had in the austerity of the post war years, we had no choice in the matter. I'm not sure that looking back on it we were that happy about it though. But being British, we made the best of it and put a smile upon our faces even if it did take an effort.

I just about remember the Olympics in 1948, I do remember very well going to the Festival of Britain in 1951 on the South Bank, with the Dome of Discovery, and the Skylon. Also I watched the funeral of KG VI in 1952, and the Coronation in 1953 on TV.

But Sirius is right to point out that in those days, morals seemed to matter more than they do now. And in lots of ways I think that we had a lot more community spirit than we do now. It all depends upon how you want to define "sensible".

I was happy in the 50's & 60's I'm not sure I'd really want to go back to them given the chance.

Of course the past was more sensible than the present, it had fewer mistakes to learn from (or not as the case may be....)

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

A public warning from a Moderator indicates to me that it is time to tone this thread down. I don't want it locked and I wouldn't have thought anyone else does either. I am quite happy to answer matters via pm offline to avoid that eventuality.

I dont know if you guys are kidding or not. Id say not! So keep it civil or it gets locked for a bit.

James, Chris and Sirius are the fora's very own Statler and Waldorf. Any disagreements are soon settled.

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

I dont know if you guys are kidding or not. Id say not! So keep it civil or it gets locked for a bit.

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Old James

Comedy show? Really? From an ingerlander who cherry picks the posts he replies to? Where does it show that I'm not serious?

FYI, I'm deadly serious in that I've come across many self righteous inglish scumbags over the past 40 years & find it sad they're still are some left in the country.

Well, they do say a leopard doesn't change it's spots.

No nastiness or bad temper, who are you trying to kid?

So tell us then. Never mind what ill gotten gains you might have made, just how much cash did you lay out in bets before the games started?

Still waiting for your reply to the comment made to the above post.

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Hi Sarge,

We aim to please and keep you amused, and perhaps add a lighter side to the usually heavy forum here in politics. Make no mistake, we do have quite fundamental differences across a wide range of subjects, and we are quite serious in our individual views. But as you have seen, our disagreements can be conducted in a basically gentlemanly fashion, without any nastiness. or bad temper.

Well if you want to leave the world, this could help you....as you're serving no useful purpose on the planet......asides from knocking down your so called friends for the past year or so.....

Good Idea

Want some help?

I love the comedy team Chris & Sirius have put together. Their good-natured ribbing of each other, along with at least some easily shot down claims ... this is hilarious stuff! :)

Well if you want to leave the world, this could help you....as you're serving no useful purpose on the planet......asides from knocking down your so called friends for the past year or so.....

Good Idea

Want some help?

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It seems that you've caught Siriusitis as well - wow, you want to leave your beloved country after all you have been saying.........

It would seem that you haven't yet fully recovered from your recent malady as that is not up to the usual mediocrity of your previous posts. I hope you get better soon.

Choosing to leave the world entirely is not quite the same as leaving ones country, to live elsewhere in the world, as you are well aware. Your passport in recent weeks must be running out of space for visa stamps. By the way Cuba is a Unitary republic, Marxist-Leninist single party state, not sure how they would react to their politicians being called muppets.

No matter, just get in touch with his nibs Raúl Castro over an iced Mojito, and I'm sure you can iron out any differences.

@Skildude Esq

I see that you have caught a nasty bout of Siriusitis virus and are now residing in Zambia. There is a lot of it going around at the moment. The recommended treatment is 3 days rest in bed, preferably in a darkened room, lots of nourishing soups, avoid the Daily Mail at all costs, and contemplate ones navel for 1 hour a day.

It's quite contagious but don't worry, you can be cured, it just takes a bit of time and patience.

It seems that you've caught Siriusitis as well - wow, you want to leave your beloved country after all you have been saying.........

Welcome to the 21C Martin, this is what life is like now. The first ET flying saucer that lands in my back garden with have an extra fare paying passenger.

....most foreigners know that ingerleeshmen are two-headed, nice to see one become visible.

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@Skildude Esq

I see that you have caught a nasty bout of Siriusitis virus and are now residing in Zambia. There is a lot of it going around at the moment. The recommended treatment is 3 days rest in bed, preferably in a darkened room, lots of nourishing soups, avoid the Daily Mail at all costs, and contemplate ones navel for 1 hour a day.

It's quite contagious but don't worry, you can be cured, it just takes a bit of time and patience.