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Message 1317468 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 5:02:23 UTC - in response to Message 1317463.  

Those children were the future of your country - where were you to protect them?


I protect MY OWN. Im not a burden to the state. As it should be.

How very Christian of you.

I must have missed that part in the bible where Jesus said "screw your neighbours and watch out for number one." what gospel was it in?


You Christian?

I know the bible pretty well and am very familiar with the teachings of Jesus.

You didn't answer the question. Yet you did answer. Not committing is an answer to me.

My faith or lack of it is no secret here. :D Your question was, however, irrelevant. So I chose not to answer it.

Just because you call yourself a Christian, doesn't mean you are one.


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Message 1317471 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 5:07:20 UTC - in response to Message 1317468.  

Those children were the future of your country - where were you to protect them?


I protect MY OWN. Im not a burden to the state. As it should be.

How very Christian of you.

I must have missed that part in the bible where Jesus said "screw your neighbours and watch out for number one." what gospel was it in?


You Christian?

I know the bible pretty well and am very familiar with the teachings of Jesus.

You didn't answer the question. Yet you did answer. Not committing is an answer to me.

My faith or lack of it is no secret here. :D Your question was, however, irrelevant. So I chose not to answer it.

Just because you call yourself a Christian, doesn't mean you are one.


Actions, not words.


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Message 1317476 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 5:51:11 UTC

The BIG MAYAN MACHINE GUN is set To BLAST AWAY ALL HUMAN LIFE on Earth, tommorow.

If we are still living on Saturday, then:

In 2016 there will be More Guns registered To Civilians than now, The DAY BEFORE THE END OF THE EARTH. 12-21-2012

So, get happy to have More Guns, In More Hands at The End Of Hustlin' Husseins Dictatorship.

he a he a he.

And Oh Yeah, Until The American White Male is Disposed Of, you will always have Another American Massacre.

So, Again, Hope For The BIG MAYAN MACHINE GUN to at least wipe out The White American Male.

Who Ya?

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Message 1317484 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 6:28:00 UTC - in response to Message 1317463.  
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Is it just me or was ES *NOT* the first one to not answer a question?

What gospel WAS that in? I missed that too.

And yes I read the damned book. Obviously from a different angle from others.
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Message 1317490 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 6:48:57 UTC - in response to Message 1317468.  

...

Actions, not words.

"Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword."
What? Even my AK-47?

"Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these."

'For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.' Then the righteous will answer him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?' And the King will answer them, 'Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.'"

"And the crowds asked him, "What then shall we do?" And he answered them, "Whoever has two tunics is to share with him who has none, and whoever has food is to do likewise." "

"For judgment is without mercy to one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment."

I could go on all day. That commie Jesus was pretty clear about how you are supposed to treat others.
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Message 1317498 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 7:01:51 UTC

Es, you are quicker on the keyboard draw than me - I was collating the same Biblical quotes as you.
ID, as you your choice of song title is a very interesting one, have you stacked your actions against the standards list by Es, which are after all quotes from the Bible, which is a book you say you hold very dear to you heart?
(I don't expect you to place a public answer to this question,a s I suspect it will take you a long time to understand what is being said in the Bible about those who espouse violence, greed, selfishness).
But we are getting off subject.
I've a strong feeling that I am not alone among those who have been taught to handle, use and manage firearms who would rather not see them in the hands of the general public "for their own defence" (against other humans). I've no problems with people having hunting rifles for hunting or clearing vermin, but the concept of having an assault rifle, or any number hand guns (greater than zero that is) "for my own defence" is one that I find hard to grasp.
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Message 1317519 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 8:38:03 UTC
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Apparently the NY Times health section has this disorder listed, Paranoid Personality Disorder

Paranoid personality disorder is a psychiatric condition in which a person has a long-term distrust and suspicion of others, but does not have a full-blown psychotic disorder such as schizophrenia.


Also, as I.D. seems to like the Federalists so much maybe he would be happy to re-enact "The Sedition Act of 1798" brought in by President John Adams.

simple put: Made it a crime to publish “false, scandalous, and malicious writing” against the government or certain officials.

I won't, I.D. style, quote the entire act as legalise is such a PITA.

A crime he is probably guilty of because he keeps complaining certain Federal laws are unconstitutional.

Most of this I have pinched from POLICE STATE USA: The Paranoid Style of American Governance

Which I found when looking up a famous essay published in Harpers Magazine in 1964, just after the Kennedy assinations. The Paranoid Style in American Politics, By Richard Hofstadter a document we had to read when studying "current affairs" back then.
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Message 1317532 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 10:23:07 UTC - in response to Message 1317451.  

You have NO understanding of weapons. A semi-auto weapon is NOT a Machine gun! If you have no understanding ask. If you don't ask be quite.

I have already told you this and yet you still MAKE the mistake!


Jesus wept! Are you that dumb?

Ash Rifle Range November 1979 - Annual classification

Classification over & a fun stand & shoot commenced: -

Load SLR (a semi automatic rifle), cock weapon & start shooting when order given.....

from that point onwards, I continuously fired 137 rounds without any further cocking of the weapon....

....the winner had fired 183!

Who needs a machine gun. A rifle in the hands of a competent & well trained user is just as deadly as an MG.

I.D. I think you'll find many on these boards have been well trained & are competent not just to use weapons, but also know that they should not be in the hands of the public, so a

+ 1 to Rob.

Oh & BTW, the SLR only held a 20 round magazine...I'll let you do the math!
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Message 1317541 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 11:06:04 UTC - in response to Message 1317532.  

Add to the fact a semi automatic can fire nearly as fast as an automatic, and in many cases can be(or has been) modified to full automatic, meaning "machine gun". Now unless someone has a license to massacre a deer herd.. hunting is no excuse. This is not a defensive weapon, it is an offensive(in many ways) weapon.

And yes I believe our ranter and raver here should in no way shape or form EVER have his hands on so much as a water pistol.
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Message 1317569 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 13:04:30 UTC
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And yes I believe our ranter and raver here should in no way shape or form EVER have his hands on so much as a water pistol.

Our ranter & raver gets away with what he does because this is an anonymous forum, where ones personal details are not on public display. All he gets here is a verbal bloody nose. If he tried walking the streets saying his opinions, he'd more than likely get a real physical one.

If you want the plain facts Known facts

Alison Pearson in the Telegraph is fair comment. Pearson

Lanza's brother told law enforcement that Adam was believed to suffer from a personality disorder and was "somewhat autistic". A law enforcement official and friends of Nancy Lanza reported that Adam had been diagnosed with Asperger syndrome.

If the above is true, then this tragedy wasn't entirely because of the USA gun laws, but of course they did have a direct bearing on the matter. A number of things stand out clearly to me.
    A way needs to be found to stop mentally unstable people getting hold of guns.

    There should be no need for members of the public to privately own Military assault weapons and the like, and that should be banned.

    The USA gun culture needs to change. The American Civil war was over 150 years ago, and the OK Corral was over 130 years ago. This is now the 21C, get over it America, and stop being so gun happy as an accepted way of life.


This tragedy will happen again, that is the saddest thing about it all. But our views are being coloured here by certain ex service personnel that frequent these boards, who because of their oaths or training, seem to have a different mindset to the rest of us. The most important thing here is those INNOCENT DEAD KIDS. If you sincerely feel that that your gun laws and your 2nd Amendment, mean more to you than childrens lives, then there isn't much more to say is there?

This Seti Politics thread is clearly not representative of the general public feeling throughout the rest of the world, and that needs to be recognised.

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Message 1317570 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 13:09:02 UTC - in response to Message 1317569.  


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Message 1317611 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 13:59:59 UTC
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I'm not shocked at to find you less then men and ladies. I'm not at all shocked to find that those of you who live here have no understanding of the founders and framers even though you claim to be teachers, mostly from the leftist and school this site comes from would be reason.

I'm not shocked to find the bastardization of my Faith either. A few quotes and you think you have it. Riiiiight!

It doesn't matter. I have taken an oath. And as I said it applies to them who have no understanding at all of God or Country.

The only thing ANY of you here have done is ignored what I have said and replaced it with nothing but yourself. You expect me to believe that you know a damn thing about a Christian? Riiiight!

Some of you have been in service, but, not to my Country. And you expect me to believe that you know a damn thing about my Lands? Riiiight!


LOL, and you fools still think that a semi-auto weapon is a machine gun. LOL! Riiiiight.

You make excuses, you have no solutions.

Riiiiiight!



Intent, is the law and the ONLY way to find it is looking to these men.

You will not disarm me. And I will have firepower equal to the government for reasons of intent of law.
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Message 1317621 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 14:32:38 UTC

I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God

As an American serviceman you accept that the President of the United States is the ultimate authority to issue your orders. The fact that God is mentioned is to give gravitas to the statement being made. It does not give God, or any God, authority or rank over the President.

So help me God is a phrase often used to give an oath, and most commonly required as part of an oath of office. It is also used in some jurisdictions as a form of oath for other forms of public duty, such as an appearance in court, service as a juror, etc.

The essence of the phrase is a request to divine agency to render assistance (help) by being a guarantor of the oath taker's own honesty and integrity in the matter under question,

This is interesting ...

I know this is hard for you to believe, but the majority of those in the military believe there are higher powers than the president of the United States.

Well, you guys have a bit of a problem with your loyalty then don't you?

And we all made an oath. And that oath would prevent us from supporting a dictator.

Oh I see. So let me get this right. The American forces will support the President until such time as they disagree with him, and then quote God to justify themselves?

I do hope I'm wrong here.

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Message 1317624 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 15:02:13 UTC - in response to Message 1317611.  

LOL, and you fools still think that a semi-auto weapon is a machine gun. LOL! Riiiiight.



You couldn't have been much cop as a soldier if you did military service then!

A machine gun, effective as it is, will never be as deadly accurate as a platoon of highly trained & competent personnel with semi-automatic rifles.

Also, where, at least in my posts, have I said a Semi is an MG?

Not only are you blinkered, it seems that you cannot read or understand English.
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Message 1317627 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 15:13:03 UTC
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Well if you read his profile, he is driven by religion, can't say we weren't warned ..... But to be fair, USA military firearms may well be different to UK or European ones, I really wouldn't know.

But I tell you what does worry me, this insinuation by him that the American forces reserve the right to take over the country, should they deem it necessary. Perhaps this is why so many people over there are so dramatically in favour of keeping military style weapons?

You will not disarm me. And I will have firepower equal to the government for reasons of intent of law.

So how long before the next American Civil war then? Either ID needs to be locked up by the CIA as a dangerous subversive, or the world ought to be getting rather worried.
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Message 1317635 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 15:50:39 UTC

Either ID needs to be locked up by the CIA as a dangerous subversive, or the world ought to be getting rather worried.


I worry more about The Lemmings posting than Free Thinkers I.D. and Guy.

Man 'O Live. What A Battle going on here!

If Keyboards were Guns, there would be Plenty 'O Blood being spewed.

Be like the show Spartacus. Without the Lovely Lucy of course.

Holy Moly.

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Message 1317650 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 16:45:12 UTC - in response to Message 1317611.  

You will not disarm me. And I will have firepower equal to the government for reasons of intent of law.

Did he just say he is going to have nukes? I believe he did. Something tells me he has crossed that invisible line and there is a file on him open for active investigation.

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Message 1317652 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 16:49:07 UTC - in response to Message 1317627.  
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Either ID needs to be locked up by the CIA as a dangerous subversive, or the world ought to be getting rather worried.

Chris, I think you meant to say FBI, not CIA. CIA has no authority inside the borders.

<edit>It would be a joint op with ATF I'm sure. Or do you think he is a Al Quida sleeper?
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Message 1317653 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 16:50:32 UTC
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If there wasn't, there probably will be now. But the really scary thought is how many others are there in the USA that think like him? Are all ex servicemen signed up to a secret militia force? You are quite correct there, it should have been the FBI.

Internal USA security = FBI = UK MI5
Foreign USA security = CIA = UK MI6

Or do you think he is a Al Quida sleeper?

No not really, just surprised that he is someone that is so curmudgeonly at such a young age. He must have had a rough life or just be a generically unhappy person.
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