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Message 1317328 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 21:28:46 UTC - in response to Message 1317183.  

There is no state any where in the US that I know that allows you to hunt with a 30 round magazine.

Well Soft seemed to think so. But can you see why those outside the USA are possibly getting the wrong end of the stick. The truth is that the USA does have a gun culture, and we in the UK do not. Therefore, we will have different viewpoints.



I used to own a Ruger 10/22, quite common at the time. 10 round circular clip.
After market quite legal at the time were 25 round clips. Not only did the rifle take less than 3 seconds to change clips, but the 25 round clips were set up to clip two together. So simply inverting it allowed the second 25 rounds.
All quite legal at the time.

I had fun plinking RC-cola cans with it(one of the last to go to aluminum cans) with hollow point bullets that completely blew out the back side of the cans. But there was really nothing very sane about having that kind of weaponry available, let alone the larger cousins that were widely available at the time.

Uzi's, Thompson's, were openly available(easily modified to full auto) as well as not quite so legal Russian made AK-47's. All were designed to slaughter large numbers of people. None of which is needed to defend yourself.


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Message 1317335 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 21:34:12 UTC - in response to Message 1317173.  

Well, I don't have much time for "BHL's", but fortunately in this case, they don't come into the picture.

My view is that "No civilian should own weapons" - You want to handle & use them, join your country's armed forces!

Right....
Count on a government conscripted armed militia to protect the citizens from wrongdoing by that same government.
That's gonna work.

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Message 1317339 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 21:35:26 UTC - in response to Message 1317180.  


The hunters I know who kill a deer also eat that same deer. Along with other game animals they hunt. The food they put in the freezer helps them make ends meet. Why do you consider that Macho?

I resent the fact that you all lump gun owners as evil. Im just as law abiding as any of you.

I bet the hunters you know don't use AK-47s to kill those deer.

Not AK 47s But I know one who hunts with an AR sporter with an upper reciever chamberd for 7.62 NATO with the mandated 5 round magazine.

I dont know where you people get your info. There is no state any where in the US that I know that allows you to hunt with a 30 round magazine.


5 rounds, that's all. For target shooting I do have clips with much more then that.

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Message 1317342 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 21:37:32 UTC - in response to Message 1317146.  

Well, I don't have much time for "BHL's", but fortunately in this case, they don't come into the picture.

My view is that "No civilian should own weapons" - You want to handle & use them, join your country's armed forces!

Please enjoy being a slave. Already pointed out Hitler to ya. Please enjoy the next one in line---and there will be a next one, just of Islam this time around. Hell no, we wont be helping ya this time....

....just sayin.
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Message 1317344 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 21:39:07 UTC - in response to Message 1317183.  

There is no state any where in the US that I know that allows you to hunt with a 30 round magazine.

Well Soft seemed to think so. But can you see why those outside the USA are possibly getting the wrong end of the stick. The truth is that the USA does have a gun culture, and we in the UK do not. Therefore, we will have different viewpoints.


Soft seems to think alot of things. Like being gay is in the Bible. Isn't so, and neither is her thoughts on firearms.
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Message 1317346 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 21:41:30 UTC

I hunt and fish. I eat what I kill. I did trap too but gave that up.

Im not giving up my firearms, wont happen. Im a citizen, not a slave.
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Message 1317348 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 21:44:33 UTC - in response to Message 1317342.  

Well, I don't have much time for "BHL's", but fortunately in this case, they don't come into the picture.

My view is that "No civilian should own weapons" - You want to handle & use them, join your country's armed forces!

Please enjoy being a slave. Already pointed out Hitler to ya. Please enjoy the next one in line---and there will be a next one, just of Islam this time around. Hell no, we wont be helping ya this time....

....just sayin.


The next time a tragic incident occurs with children, all those in the State that hold high powered weaponary, should be made to view the scene & the bodies of the children.

At the same time, Psychologists should be on the scene watching them - If any should show no emotional feelings, they should have their card marked & their license to hold said weaponary removed for the remainder of their life....

.... as we will unfortunately see, it will occur again!
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Message 1317349 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 21:46:48 UTC - in response to Message 1317328.  

There is no state any where in the US that I know that allows you to hunt with a 30 round magazine.

Well Soft seemed to think so. But can you see why those outside the USA are possibly getting the wrong end of the stick. The truth is that the USA does have a gun culture, and we in the UK do not. Therefore, we will have different viewpoints.



I used to own a Ruger 10/22, quite common at the time. 10 round circular clip.
After market quite legal at the time were 25 round clips. Not only did the rifle take less than 3 seconds to change clips, but the 25 round clips were set up to clip two together. So simply inverting it allowed the second 25 rounds.
All quite legal at the time.

I had fun plinking RC-cola cans with it(one of the last to go to aluminum cans) with hollow point bullets that completely blew out the back side of the cans. But there was really nothing very sane about having that kind of weaponry available, let alone the larger cousins that were widely available at the time.

Uzi's, Thompson's, were openly available(easily modified to full auto) as well as not quite so legal Russian made AK-47's. All were designed to slaughter large numbers of people. None of which is needed to defend yourself.



Oh, we are going to talk sane? LOL!

Can you modified to full auto one of these weapons?

Oh, yes they are to defend yourself. What part of governments are you NOT getting? I have given you a lot of quotes, have you ignored them? If so plase go back and read them, THAT is MY RIGHT and DUTY as a citizen to protect my Country as well as my family and I can't do that with a spoon! WAKE UP!

Put the spoon down and back away from it. It is a danger to you!
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Message 1317350 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 21:48:46 UTC - in response to Message 1317349.  

Those children were the future of your country - where were you to protect them?

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Message 1317351 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 21:50:29 UTC - in response to Message 1317348.  

Well, I don't have much time for "BHL's", but fortunately in this case, they don't come into the picture.

My view is that "No civilian should own weapons" - You want to handle & use them, join your country's armed forces!

Please enjoy being a slave. Already pointed out Hitler to ya. Please enjoy the next one in line---and there will be a next one, just of Islam this time around. Hell no, we wont be helping ya this time....

....just sayin.


The next time a tragic incident occurs with children, all those in the State that hold high powered weaponary, should be made to view the scene & the bodies of the children.

At the same time, Psychologists should be on the scene watching them - If any should show no emotional feelings, they should have their card marked & their license to hold said weaponary removed for the remainder of their life....

.... as we will unfortunately see, it will occur again!



Put the BOTTLE down and please back away from it. It is a danger to you and your health, you have no right to it and it will be taken from you. You are over weight and we will be takin all your spoons too. If we come back and you have not lost 30 pounds we will be lockin you up till you do. We will let you og, but if you put the weight BACK on you will be locked up for life. It's for your own good, like it or not.

...just sayin! Learn to live with our control, or don't live. Your choice, but it isn't really your choice because we have control over YOUR life.
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Message 1317352 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 21:51:50 UTC - in response to Message 1317350.  

Those children were the future of your country - where were you to protect them?


I protect MY OWN. Im not a burden to the state. As it should be.
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Message 1317353 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 21:51:58 UTC - in response to Message 1317351.  

I have an extremely big advantage over you - I cannot put weight on!
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Message 1317354 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 21:53:31 UTC - in response to Message 1317352.  

Those children were the future of your country - where were you to protect them?


I protect MY OWN. Im not a burden to the state. As it should be.


So in not fact you're NOT protecting your country, which in that case, you need to lose all the weapons you hold!
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Message 1317355 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 21:55:17 UTC

This is one of those rare occasions when I agree with Sirius.
Sadly there will be a next time, and sadly I doubt that the USofA will learn that gun control, not abolition, is essential. Control of such weapons does not make people slaves, indeed I would go so far as to say that many Americans are slaves to guns, and are afraid of the freedom that not having guns freely available brings.
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Message 1317378 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 23:10:26 UTC

You both are in slavery. You live in a socialist Country. AND with no way out of it.
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Message 1317379 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 23:11:08 UTC - in response to Message 1317354.  
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Those children were the future of your country - where were you to protect them?


I protect MY OWN. Im not a burden to the state. As it should be.


So in not fact you're NOT protecting your country, which in that case, you need to lose all the weapons you hold!

Says who? You ? LOL! Come and get them! LOL!
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Message 1317381 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 23:17:07 UTC - in response to Message 1317353.  

I have an extremely big advantage over you - I cannot put weight on!

Put down the cigs! Please back away from the ashtray. You will stop smoking! We will place you in a rubber-room for 90 days, like it or not! Smoking is bad for your health and you have become a burden to the state and it's health care system. This will not be tolerated! If you start back up or buy it on the black market we will place you in jail for life, like it or not! IT'S FOR YOUR OWN GOOD!
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Message 1317383 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 23:25:08 UTC

I.D, think you need an early Xmas & New year vacation.

A Xmas thought for you: -

Your views had one of those slain children been yours?

Would you have become a modern day "John Brown"?

Would you have become an Adam Lanza & seek your revenge on anybody in sight?

If yes to 2 & 3, think you need to spend Xmas in the company of men in white coats!
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Message 1317384 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 23:25:48 UTC - in response to Message 1317327.  

Quite honestly that would result in an overwhelming gov't response. Check out your local Therapists office and you'll understand that you can't possibly watch everyone.

BTW I actually am fairly antisocial and am very uncomfortable in crowds or being around people even when I know the people. Would I be restricted?


I guess by your definition I am antisocial too as I too hate being in crowds. I also understand that not everyone can be watched and even then watched by whom? This is why I wonder that the use of profiling is so politically incorrect to the point of being banned.

But did this young man even fit in a profile that would have predicted his ultimate behavior?

Finally I don't think that removing one means of inflicting death would deter the most determined of mass murderers from his/her deed.

It is probably impossible to regulate/control society to the point where such events cease to occur which means we have to do a better job with the techniques available to limit their frequency.
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Message 1317394 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 0:03:54 UTC - in response to Message 1317383.  
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I.D, think you need an early Xmas & New year vacation.


Thinking on your own is NOT allowed! The state will do your thinking for you. Just watch the T.V. reports for what you are allowed to think.

A Xmas thought for you: -


The word is CHRISTmas.

Your views had one of those slain children been yours?


They did not need to be mine for me to cry big crocodile tears. I dropped to my knees and prayed to God for all the children and the teachers. AS WELL AS FOR THE SHOOTER, because someone let that young man down.

Would you have become a modern day "John Brown"?


Disjointed thinking on your part. Illogical. Has nothing to do with this thread.

Would you have become an Adam Lanza & seek your revenge on anybody in sight?


Illogical.

If yes to 2 & 3, think you need to spend Xmas in the company of men in white coats!


The Party and its totalitarian ideology is all you need to think about. You will not think thoughts that are not along Party lines. If you do think for yourself you are guilty of Thoughtcrimes and will see Miniluv stright away. Big Brother cares for you. Newspeak will tell you what to think! DO NOT turn it off!

Good day to you sir...I SAY GOOD DAY!
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