Panic Mode On (76) Server Problems?

Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (76) Server Problems?
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

Previous · 1 . . . 3 · 4 · 5 · 6 · 7 · 8 · 9 . . . 20 · Next

AuthorMessage
Profile HAL9000
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 11 Sep 99
Posts: 6534
Credit: 196,805,888
RAC: 57
United States
Message 1264187 - Posted: 25 Jul 2012, 19:32:58 UTC - in response to Message 1264175.  

Hey man, Like, what happened.
Oscar is offline.
And a dinosaur sized bite out of the cricket graph.
I think The Duck has devolved into a tyranosaurus sized graph muncher.

The MySQL db had some sort of issue. So everything off-line until 4 or 5 hours ago.
SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours
Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[
ID: 1264187 · Report as offensive
Profile HAL9000
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 11 Sep 99
Posts: 6534
Credit: 196,805,888
RAC: 57
United States
Message 1264195 - Posted: 25 Jul 2012, 20:00:05 UTC - in response to Message 1264191.  

Hey man, Like, what happened.
Oscar is offline.
And a dinosaur sized bite out of the cricket graph.
I think The Duck has devolved into a tyranosaurus sized graph muncher.

The MySQL db had some sort of issue. So everything off-line until 4 or 5 hours ago.


Well, don't blame me, it was never My SQL, it must have been someone elses SQL....

I didn't say it was your fault. I said I was going to blame you. :P

SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours
Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[
ID: 1264195 · Report as offensive
Dave

Send message
Joined: 29 Mar 02
Posts: 778
Credit: 25,001,396
RAC: 0
United Kingdom
Message 1264762 - Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 6:44:28 UTC

I'm getting fed up of cache depleting & not replenshing itself. Seriously thinking of moving over to PrimeGrid before my 2^25 credit goal end of year - maybe even 20mlln for 6008784 or 25mlln overall.
ID: 1264762 · Report as offensive
Grant (SSSF)
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 19 Aug 99
Posts: 13736
Credit: 208,696,464
RAC: 304
Australia
Message 1264785 - Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 8:31:36 UTC - in response to Message 1264762.  

I'm getting fed up of cache depleting & not replenshing itself.

On which system? 3 have v6, one has v7.
Since the way the cache works on v7 is different to v6 the result is that either the v6 systems will have a full cache or the v7. Not both.
I'd suggest runing one version on all systems, or at least using local settings for the v7 system.

My systems do the work & request more. Due to the extended outage it takes a few requests to get any allocated, and it can take a couple of goes to finally download due to the traffic. But at the moment my caches are (slowly) re-filling.
Grant
Darwin NT
ID: 1264785 · Report as offensive
ToxicTBag

Send message
Joined: 5 Feb 10
Posts: 101
Credit: 57,197,902
RAC: 0
United Kingdom
Message 1264793 - Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 9:33:14 UTC

"wee panic" might even me a bit of finger drumming and gnashing of teeth :-)
ID: 1264793 · Report as offensive
Dave

Send message
Joined: 29 Mar 02
Posts: 778
Credit: 25,001,396
RAC: 0
United Kingdom
Message 1264942 - Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 17:49:00 UTC
Last modified: 27 Jul 2012, 17:49:53 UTC

I'm not sure about "wee panic" - I'm ok in terms of my little boys' room functionality - but meanwhile back in SETI land I'm thinking rather than just be frustrated with a machine (v6.12.34) that does not refill it's cache to go for v7.0.28 & swap the cache allocation round as per mentioned elsewhere (e.g 0.5 + additional 5).

I'm never going to get the maximum out of this machine if the project is this unreliable. There are far too many variables these days. God knows how the people with no PC/SETI experience cope.

It's just constantly timing out trying to download. I shouldn't have to keep reverting to a proxy to do this.
ID: 1264942 · Report as offensive
Claggy
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 5 Jul 99
Posts: 4654
Credit: 47,537,079
RAC: 4
United Kingdom
Message 1264946 - Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 18:05:45 UTC - in response to Message 1264785.  

I'm getting fed up of cache depleting & not replenshing itself.

On which system? 3 have v6, one has v7.
Since the way the cache works on v7 is different to v6 the result is that either the v6 systems will have a full cache or the v7. Not both.
I'd suggest runing one version on all systems, or at least using local settings for the v7 system.

Or just set up a different venue/location with different preferences just for the Boinc v7 hosts, you do have four venues to play with,

Claggy
ID: 1264946 · Report as offensive
Grant (SSSF)
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 19 Aug 99
Posts: 13736
Credit: 208,696,464
RAC: 304
Australia
Message 1264992 - Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 19:49:02 UTC - in response to Message 1264942.  

It's just constantly timing out trying to download. I shouldn't have to keep reverting to a proxy to do this.

Or do what many have done & use the hosts file to make use of the download server that gives the best results.

Grant
Darwin NT
ID: 1264992 · Report as offensive
.clair.

Send message
Joined: 4 Nov 04
Posts: 1300
Credit: 55,390,408
RAC: 69
United Kingdom
Message 1265006 - Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 20:35:56 UTC

Looks like sometime this week i ended up on the slow server,
I have never seen so many timeouts, internal thing errors, or unable to connects.
and am lucky if i can keep a two hour cache never mind two days,
7.0.28 set for min 1 extra 2 has been working nice for, err, long enough to know that sumat has pooped on meez.
Whatever.
ID: 1265006 · Report as offensive
Dave

Send message
Joined: 29 Mar 02
Posts: 778
Credit: 25,001,396
RAC: 0
United Kingdom
Message 1265044 - Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 23:02:53 UTC - in response to Message 1265006.  

Looks like sometime this week i ended up on the slow server,
I have never seen so many timeouts, internal thing errors, or unable to connects.
and am lucky if i can keep a two hour cache never mind two days,
7.0.28 set for min 1 extra 2 has been working nice for, err, long enough to know that sumat has pooped on meez.
Whatever.


Same situation as you. Default location, using a hosts file. Daren't risk or bother v7 now.
ID: 1265044 · Report as offensive
Profile James Sotherden
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 16 May 99
Posts: 10436
Credit: 110,373,059
RAC: 54
United States
Message 1265045 - Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 23:35:41 UTC

Downloads are a whopping .8kps up to 10kps. I cant keep any work so its NNT and run Einstein for the weekend.
[/quote]

Old James
ID: 1265045 · Report as offensive
juan BFP Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 16 Mar 07
Posts: 9786
Credit: 572,710,851
RAC: 3,799
Panama
Message 1265046 - Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 23:43:37 UTC

Try to use a proxy, this helps in this moments.
ID: 1265046 · Report as offensive
Profile James Sotherden
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 16 May 99
Posts: 10436
Credit: 110,373,059
RAC: 54
United States
Message 1265051 - Posted: 28 Jul 2012, 0:19:31 UTC

Well I manged to get the all downloaded by button pushing. Evrey single one of my CPU tasks is a VLAR. I have never ever seen that many before. Might last all weekend even with NNT set.
[/quote]

Old James
ID: 1265051 · Report as offensive
juan BFP Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 16 Mar 07
Posts: 9786
Credit: 572,710,851
RAC: 3,799
Panama
Message 1265054 - Posted: 28 Jul 2012, 0:29:34 UTC - in response to Message 1265051.  
Last modified: 28 Jul 2012, 0:33:36 UTC

Well I manged to get the all downloaded by button pushing. Evrey single one of my CPU tasks is a VLAR. I have never ever seen that many before. Might last all weekend even with NNT set.


Just a sugestion,

Is easy to make your DL faster with the help of a proxy and/or make a bath file that automates the retry, this keep you free to do more important things, like drink a beer...

There are a lot of working examples in the forum.

You should try, i keep my hosts with full off work and remember i live far from US so the conection problem is far more complicated from our forth contry world slow internet providers.
ID: 1265054 · Report as offensive
Profile Tim
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 19 May 99
Posts: 211
Credit: 278,575,259
RAC: 0
Greece
Message 1265764 - Posted: 30 Jul 2012, 5:59:11 UTC - in response to Message 1265054.  

Well I manged to get the all downloaded by button pushing. Evrey single one of my CPU tasks is a VLAR. I have never ever seen that many before. Might last all weekend even with NNT set.


Just a sugestion,

Is easy to make your DL faster with the help of a proxy and/or make a bath file that automates the retry, this keep you free to do more important things, like drink a beer...

There are a lot of working examples in the forum.

You should try, i keep my hosts with full off work and remember i live far from US so the conection problem is far more complicated from our forth contry world slow internet providers.


Can you provide us a good working proxy?
ID: 1265764 · Report as offensive
Profile Wiggo
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 24 Jan 00
Posts: 34744
Credit: 261,360,520
RAC: 489
Australia
Message 1265772 - Posted: 30 Jul 2012, 6:33:46 UTC - in response to Message 1265764.  

Well I manged to get the all downloaded by button pushing. Evrey single one of my CPU tasks is a VLAR. I have never ever seen that many before. Might last all weekend even with NNT set.


Just a sugestion,

Is easy to make your DL faster with the help of a proxy and/or make a bath file that automates the retry, this keep you free to do more important things, like drink a beer...

There are a lot of working examples in the forum.

You should try, i keep my hosts with full off work and remember i live far from US so the conection problem is far more complicated from our forth contry world slow internet providers.


Can you provide us a good working proxy?

Pick any from the Open Proxy List but keep a close eye on them when using one as they can drop the site off if they think that its using to much of their resources which in most cases will result in nothing happening, or a lot of failed downloads. ;)

Cheers.
ID: 1265772 · Report as offensive
juan BFP Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 16 Mar 07
Posts: 9786
Credit: 572,710,851
RAC: 3,799
Panama
Message 1265861 - Posted: 30 Jul 2012, 12:40:28 UTC - in response to Message 1265772.  

Well I manged to get the all downloaded by button pushing. Evrey single one of my CPU tasks is a VLAR. I have never ever seen that many before. Might last all weekend even with NNT set.


Just a sugestion,

Is easy to make your DL faster with the help of a proxy and/or make a bath file that automates the retry, this keep you free to do more important things, like drink a beer...

There are a lot of working examples in the forum.

You should try, i keep my hosts with full off work and remember i live far from US so the conection problem is far more complicated from our forth contry world slow internet providers.


Can you provide us a good working proxy?

Pick any from the Open Proxy List but keep a close eye on them when using one as they can drop the site off if they think that its using to much of their resources which in most cases will result in nothing happening, or a lot of failed downloads. ;)

Cheers.



There are another source at: http://www.freeproxylists.net/

It´s dificult to tell exactly what proxy is better for each user, normaly you try to use a highup time from your country, sometimes use another country proxy works better. There are a reason but dificult to understand and explain, just think is relates who your ISP is conected to the WWW. So the best proxy for someone did not be the best for another.

As a example i live in Brazil and for a few days i use this proxy 50.22.206.184 port 8080 that is located in Dallas TX USA... Since i have 3 different location with some host on that and different ISP for each one, This proxy does not work fine on one of this two otrherlocation, so i need to use another proxy, in the other conection i simply not need a proxy the connections to Seti works 100%. I hear from a guy that lives in Australia some months ago who using a Brazilian proxy, but when i try to use that proxy my system simply not work, etc.

Take some time to learn the "unwriten rules" but after few "god and bad choices" you will be an expert. ANd belive me you will feel the difference if you have connection problems.

There are something else you need to know when using a public proxy, sometimes they simply cut off our access if they feel you use too much of his bandwith, so if it stops to work, check if Seti is on line (the proxy cant work if the Seti servers are ofline) if yes, try another proxy.

ID: 1265861 · Report as offensive
Dave

Send message
Joined: 29 Mar 02
Posts: 778
Credit: 25,001,396
RAC: 0
United Kingdom
Message 1265932 - Posted: 30 Jul 2012, 17:33:11 UTC

I too am continuing to experience a severe inability to fill the cache on my hungry machine with endless time-outs. I have even "reboot", whatever that is...

Does this mean we now have to babysit a choice of proxy just to keep a reliable cache?

I am on the verge of stopping SETI on this machine for another project.
ID: 1265932 · Report as offensive
bill

Send message
Joined: 16 Jun 99
Posts: 861
Credit: 29,352,955
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1265950 - Posted: 30 Jul 2012, 18:26:50 UTC - in response to Message 1265932.  

I too am continuing to experience a severe inability to fill the cache on my hungry machine with endless time-outs. I have even "reboot", whatever that is...

Does this mean we now have to babysit a choice of proxy just to keep a reliable cache?

I am on the verge of stopping SETI on this machine for another project.


That would probably be for the best. I doubt the server connections will ever be reliable enough for you as long as continuous excessive demands are placed upon them without upgrading the server hardware and getting a bigger pipe.

Future increases in client hardware capabilities is only going to exacerbate the situation.
ID: 1265950 · Report as offensive
Dave

Send message
Joined: 29 Mar 02
Posts: 778
Credit: 25,001,396
RAC: 0
United Kingdom
Message 1265951 - Posted: 30 Jul 2012, 18:29:06 UTC
Last modified: 30 Jul 2012, 18:30:00 UTC

Why? What has changed over the past few weeks? It's been fine for a year.
ID: 1265951 · Report as offensive
Previous · 1 . . . 3 · 4 · 5 · 6 · 7 · 8 · 9 . . . 20 · Next

Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (76) Server Problems?


 
©2024 University of California
 
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.