Ah yes, and I'll go for 'The Summarian Restoration Collective'

Do they have a common finance policy do you know, Baz?

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
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First policy is a spell checker -- it is Sumerian not Summarian - my bad.

Their finance policy is to strip as much money from the miserable monotheists that they can.

Ah yes, and I'll go for 'The Summarian Restoration Collective'

Do they have a common finance policy do you know, Baz?

Their finance policy is to strip as much money from the miserable monotheists that they can.

These Monotheists, Baz; not German by any chance are they..LoL..are we ever going
to be serious again (he-he-he)

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
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Someone call?

Treacherous turncoat - Should be in the Cameron's 1st term thread, but it deserves to be here

Neveille Chamberlain's "Cash in our time"

Joan Baez's "The Night that Merkel Lost"

That's 6 screwed - how many more to come?

Rebuild Rome in a day? You must be joking!

"If the rulebook has yet to be written about establishing a new banking union, a supervisory authority for the eurozone, the Germans will make sure they will write it". Then again, they might be able to rebuild it, we'll see.....

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Someone call?

Treacherous turncoat - Should be in the Cameron's 1st term thread, but it deserves to be here

Now what's he up to, someone in that meeting the other night suggested that he
might make President of Europe one day? He's putting words in the electorates
moth here by stating, " Most people in Britain want a government that stands up
and fights within Europe and gets the things we want in Europe; that changes
some of the relationships we have in Europe"...Is that so, Mr Cameron. I just hope
you know what your saying here. Has this man not realised that the only way
you ever get your voice heard within the ECM is by using bullying tactics along
with it. Just like France, Italy and Spain did last evening. Mr Cameron is an appeaser
and the ECM lot will jump on that for they always see this as a sign of weakness.

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
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Good for him. The Tory right wing are as bad as the Labour left wing. Extremism politics is always out on a limb. Because of disinformation by the press, a referendum now would likely result in an out vote at the wrong time. When the time comes that it is not in our further interests to stay in we will go.

You weren't a banker in a past life by any chance or a politician previous to that?

Irish Banks

Spanish & Italian Banks

British Banks

European Bank?

Greek Banks

Portuguese Banks

What with muppets in power & thieves in charge of our cash, what chance has a general populace have to secure their future or their families future?

Politicians & Bankers are not in it to provide for their nations, but in it for what THEY can get out of it - a clear example of this is Barack Obama, pressurising Europe because the financial crisis was jeopardising his re-election chances!

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lol.

Views from the other side of the pond.....

What must be done now to save the Euro

Professor Tyson from UCB "Time is running out, and immediate actions are required. The fate of the euro, the stability of global capital markets and the strength of the United States and global recoveries depend on what Europe’s leaders decide".

Greenspan says "Europe like a leaking boat"

"Inaction on Capitol Hill could push the U.S. economy into recession next year, the Congressional Budget Office said last month".

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2 very interesting reports, however, I find one of them highly dangerous....

Not just "Eurosceptics" or "extreme nationalists" wanting an In/Out referendum

Why Germany will do all that's neccessary to preserve single currency

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It seems that all are relying on Europe to pull it's self out of the mire so
so saving everyone else's economies. To do this would involve the ECB having to
act as bank of last resort, issue euro-bonds and implement quantitative easing
too. The vast amount of debt to be then incurred would effect the growth of
the ECM for decades after this depression has ended. Here it isn't just a case
of creating a centralised financial authority with autonomy over all ECM
member countries economies it also involves denationalising these countries too.
We're not talking about bringing two halves together making one, such as we
had with the United States war of independence. No, we're talking about bringing
27 countries together and asking them to think and act as one. How many
Basque type separatist group's will now set themselves up to fight to regain
their lost nationalities.

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
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EU - Think Positive

The above link highlights the no 1 core issue at the heart of all Eurozone issues.......

“Most importantly, I think the EU is struggling to choose its model: it has systematically hesitated for 40 years, between an intergovernmental model on one side, and a federalist model on the other. This raises problems concerning the nature of the decisions that are made and how they should be taken".

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Sirius, that struggle between models reflects the sort of diversity that Europe remains (and has been for millennia).

The expectation that what was basically a non-existent center (ie Brussels) could make Europe a collection of states like the states in the US, rather than a collection of countries -- like Europe, was unrealistic from the start. It didn't work well in good times.

Sirius, that struggle between models reflects the sort of diversity that Europe remains (and has been for millennia).

The expectation that what was basically a non-existent center (ie Brussels) could make Europe a collection of states like the states in the US, rather than a collection of countries -- like Europe, was unrealistic from the start. It didn't work well in good times.

Basically the games up for "this" current ECM. The best that can be hoped
for is that several ECM members hold internal referendums giving their country
folks the option of being declared as a State of Europe hence give up their rights
of sovereignty. Hence forth they operate under the autonomy of Brussels, yes,
an autonomy, for the Brussels heirachy have yet to be selected under the normal processes
associated with a western democratic system...time they sorted this out. Sirius,
did you get a chance to vote for Van Rompuy or for any of his cohorts, no, but Baz'
did though for both Obama and his current Senator too. Added to this, had you
actually ever heard of Van Rompuy prior to being made president? No, neither
had a whole load of Euro M.P's. either so makes one think that Van Rompuy is
likely to have been put in place as a puppet president. Well, the Euro M.P's.
did vote for him, yes but his was the only name put forwards for the job.
Why then did these M.P's. vote for him...cos' you don't bite the hands that
feed you....got it!!

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
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Just what type of leaders have we got? Less than 48 hours after this.....

Posted on the 29th at 23:06

....we get this....

"It's time to open the door on a referendum"

Does this muppet thinks we're that foolish?

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Just what type of leaders have we got? Less than 48 hours after this.....

Posted on the 29th at 23:06

....we get this....

"It's time to open the door on a referendum"

Does this muppet thinks we're that foolish?

My feelings too, Sirius...

Below is a quote from Sirius Link "It's time to open the door on a referendum"

The Prime Minister is gearing up to resolve the matter once and for all – but not yet. He is considering turning the next Election, due in 2015, into a vote on Britain’s membership of the EU – or holding a referendum afterwards if he is still in No 10.

...Oh yes, he's planning on pulling the same old trick Edward Heath did
during the 1970's to get the Common Market referendum to return a vote of "yes".
Heath declared openly that if we voted "No" to joining this would be taken as
a vote of no faith in the Conservative Government and he would be forced to
call a General Election. Why did people fear having a new General Election?
feared that Labour would get back in so soon after getting kicked out due to
the serious mess they got the UK in during the preceding years.
Well Mr Cameron, you might find this decision on the ECM will have been made
for you before the next General Election arises, the ECM may well not be in
existence by then.

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
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Let's hope so, but the way our "glorious leaders" are acting, I can't see it happening.

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For someone who wishes his own threads to stay on track & post relevant replies, & at the same time, crop up in other threads & post irrelevant comments/pics not associated to the topic on hand says a lot about your mindset.

Please enlighten us as to what relation that picture has to do with the Euro crisis?

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For someone who wishes his own threads to stay on track & post relevant replies, & at the same time, crop up in other threads & post irrelevant comments/pics not associated to the topic on hand says a lot about your mindset.

Please enlighten us as to what relation that picture has to do with the Euro crisis?

Simple, the ECM is nothing but a show-full of "Muppets"..

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
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Sorry Nick, but he's posted that pic before referencing the 2 of us. nice man.....

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Sorry Nick, but he's posted that pic before referencing the 2 of us. nice man.....

It could be because Chris feels we're stealing the show at the moment.
Statler and Waldorf were two very popular characters you know.

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

Well so far, I've referenced: - the Telegraph, The Guardian, The Observer, The Independent, Daily Mail, BBC, Washington Post, New York Times, Financial Times as well as numerous others....

..yet runs one down for reading the mail? If the newspapers are all that biased, with unelected officials in europe dictating to us, dishonest & moaning MP's, just who is left for the electorate to listen to?

People like Chris S? "Pogue Ma Honne" Man!

This is an intersting thread as many are not only posting their views but also possible solutions, yet the politicians & others just cannot seem to get the point that corruption, dishonesty, lying etc has to end sometime soon.

Unfortunately, some dislike their heroes being lampooned!

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