sub title The End of the Beginning Part 2

1: The End is near
2: The End of the Beginning......

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Italian Oliver wanting more

Greek request - Bet Ms Merkel turns it down

Typical lawyers - always messing up

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Frenchie gets his wish - UK's big 4 prepare for downgrade

Wonder what Ben Dover & his partner, Phil MacCavity thinks of that?

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Angela Merkel's Ultimatum to the Eurozone countries....

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/moodys-cuts-the-credit-ratings-of-15-major-global-banks-citing-risks-to-future-profitability/2012/06/21/gJQAj9rXtV_story.html

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Moodys cuts ratings of 15 global banks

Made your link actve.

Edit: just read the story...hmmn, wonder how that will work its way through the markets?

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Thanks for making the link active.

Regarding the markets -- they have been pushing down the bank stock prices for months in anticipation of the ratings change - but the market loves to swing.

It is clear that there is a big liquidity problem -- and there are those arguing that making it more severe is the solution.....

[quote]Moodys cuts ratings of 15 global banks

As quoted from the link above.....

On Thursday the Dow Jones industrial average plunged 251 points, its second-worst loss of the year, as new reports indicating slower manufacturing in the U.S. and China made investors fearful that the global economy could be heading for another slump

Now tell me this, "Are these investors that stupid and thick not to have realised
some time back that we were heading for another slump and actually reached it
finally about two weeks ago". God give us strength, these idiots are looking after
the money belonging to some of you. 99% of the investors are lemmings and follow
the trend and the 1% who know what they are doing got out of the markets a very
long time ago. If you can discover who this 1% are and where their putting their
money you'll be onto a winning number.

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The Kite Fliers

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

If you ask me a good excuse to manipulate the market to the downside. You can bet all of the institutions sold ahead of the plunge and the Market makers juggled their orders as well creating the downward momentum.

Over the past few years I've come to believe that there is an element of market manipulation that has been going on. Too much in the way of big moves - in some cases from day to day up and down.

If you ask me a good excuse to manipulate the market to the downside. You can bet all of the institutions sold ahead of the plunge and the Market makers juggled their orders as well creating the downward momentum.

So the question is "Is human behavior controllable and if it is, is that something civil society should do?"

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If you ask me a good excuse to manipulate the market to the downside. You can bet all of the institutions sold ahead of the plunge and the Market makers juggled their orders as well creating the downward momentum.

So the question is "Is human behavior controllable and if it is, is that something civil society should do?"

Well that's an easy question to answer. Of course human behavior is easy to control and we are all actively working to achieve this.

Just not in the way some of the other successful leaders have been able to successfully control human behavior.

http://www.cbv.ns.ca/dictator/default.html

Guy, I agree that severe controls can control behavior. Now the remaining question is should we apply those sanctions to those who are manipulating the markets? The Tea Party people appear to believe no, "every man for himself".

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Not so much as an issue to control behavior, but simply a matter of influencing behavior. This influence might be enhanced by some behind scenes activity. Think of shaving points in a college basketball game.

Air tanker work moves to Spain. Is this because of "on time & at cost?" or because of the euro crisis & the employment situation? If so, is there more of this to come?

IMF plan to save Euro She's gotta be joking! Giving direct to the banks? After what they have already done?

Is he right?

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One big eu shaking up factor is in the last few years eastern europe is growing more isolated from western europe due to their economic disadvantages compare to west. Maybe that is good for russians since they are pretty much playing roughly on eu's energy needs and to influence on eu divisions.

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Mandtugai!

Trouble ahead for the UK...

Euro big 4 agree growth package

"The leaders sought to agree proposals on closer integration - including a banking union and a financial transactions tax - to be put forward at the broader EU summit".

Euro condition "Acute"

If Frau/fraulein Merkel sticks to her guns, Germany will indeed bring down Europe for the 3rd time, only this time it will be the bloodiest war in history without a shot being fired!

Once that happens, we'll be looking at 1919/1926/1929 all over again & with no way to recover quickly, Europe will again be at war & this time it will be actual war as there still is too many racial problems within Europe.

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Greek ministers in hospital Well these summits are more damaging than the health warnings on cigarette packets - maybe an International Health Warning be issued by the IMF - "Lock your wallets"

Shrinking Euro economy ratchets up crisis

Holidaying in Greece in 2012 - travel at your own peril

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