My BMI is 21 which is in the lower area of normally acceptable. Yet everyone says I'm as skinny as a rake .....

Hummmmmm from my computer dictionary

BMI: A measure of someone's weight in relation to height; to calculate one's BMI, multiply one's weight in pounds and divide that by the square of one's height in inches; overweight is a BMI greater than 25; obese is a BMI greater than 30

BMI is a very rough tool. It fails fairly often. IIRC there is a much better tool available but you need a tub of water. To measure the proportion of fat you weigh the person then you put them in water and see how much water they displace when they float. Fat weighs less than muscle and a ratio is calculated. Can't find a link to this right now.

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My BMI is 21 which is in the lower area of normally acceptable. Yet everyone says I'm as skinny as a rake .....

Oh Chris read your own words. The Motherhens of Seti just want you to get to a helthy weight. To us, you maybe a bit to skinny.

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My BMI is 21 which is in the lower area of normally acceptable. Yet everyone says I'm as skinny as a rake .....

When I was in the Air Force, They had started that BMI program. We had one guy who was a weight lifter. He was 5'8" and was 220 lbs. according to the Air Force he was fat. He had to get a medical waiver just so he could stay in the service. We all wonderd why some idiot just couldnt look at him and use common sense to tell he wasnt fat. The guy had the build of the hulk.

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Betreger, that can't be true, if you don't believe the free market is always good for you, you must be a socialist.

Does that include full legalization of all recreational drugs? Just checking because I'm new here and don't know where you each stand on what issue. Thanks in advance.

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The thing that makes me very sad is obese children. A four year old the size of an eight year old screeming he want's chocolate and probably getting it. Looking into the parents shopping card and seeing chip, soda, but no veggies or fruit.
I have never been a size 0. The best I have ever achived was a size 10, now I am a size 12. Based on my height 5'9" I could loose a pound/kilo or too, but I am not obese.
Once in awhile I crave a Big Mac and /or some french fries, but I could live without them. Now a good pizza or a coleslaw at KFC is another story, but in moderation will not hurt my weight.

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And I can diss now. I was one. Not anymore. Lost a pile. So it is possible. And I still eat some fast food. It is all about serving size, portion control.

If you forced me to pick one or two items, diet soda and high salt flavored chips, would be my targets.

According to my online BMI, I am considered obese. Most would say I'm a little overweight.

I finally tossed my Pepsi habit and replaced it with Countrytime Lemonade. I still struggle with portion sizes whenever Michele makes a good meal.

However, I have noticed a lot more overweight/obese people out there lately. My last trip to Olive Garden was filled with people who could only be considered obese by any standard (not the new BMI).

Last time I was at a local mom's cooking restaurant I saw a table full that were of a size they couldn't have fit in a booth. All had canes to help them walk. Two appetizers for the table of 4, full dinners, sodas w/ refills, and desert.

And I can diss now. I was one. Not anymore. Lost a pile. So it is possible. And I still eat some fast food. It is all about serving size, portion control.

If you forced me to pick one or two items, diet soda and high salt flavored chips, would be my targets.

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... However, I have noticed a lot more overweight/obese people out there lately. My last trip to Olive Garden was filled with people who could only be considered obese by any standard (not the new BMI).

It's really scary to see how many people look to have difficulty in just moving around.

As for running up stairs... Three steps, gasp, 'stop for breath', and a pool of sweat...

Is that why we have so many lifts/elevators and escalators that are festooned with advertisements for "fast food"?


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If you look to the "food pyramid" it is the same formula the USDA has to fatten cattle. How many artificial growth hormones are you ingesting through meat and dairy products? How much hydrogenated oil are you consuming?

These are rampant in fat and slow food that is prepared for you. If you want something half way healthy you need to head to your kitchen. Chances are there is a device there called a "stove". Probably somewhere near your microwave.

Use it, and be careful what you put on it. Make sure it is edible to begin with.

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Part of the problem is that everyone uses these online BMI tools which are not fully accurate. You need to visit your doctor so they can accurately measure your BMI.

Yes, they did move the goal posts by redefining what everyone's BMI is, and I agree that it put a whole lot of people into the obese category that wasn't necessary.

However, I have noticed a lot more overweight/obese people out there lately. My last trip to Olive Garden was filled with people who could only be considered obese by any standard (not the new BMI).

Well at least I'm safe enough....



..according to the BBC Fat Calculator anyway......

BMI is a bunch of Hooey.

A few years ago I checked my BMI while being an avid bicycle rider(200 miles a week) My BMI was 31. a man that is 6'5" and 240 but with less than 10% body fat is considered obese. Its an absurd measurement.

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Is this where Big Food Industry gets it's just deserts?


Big Tobacco lawyers target food industry

The lawyers who took on the big US tobacco companies, and won, have now set their sights on the food industry.


I wonder if the Tobacco Industry Marketeers are also plying their immoral devious trade for food aswel as Fossil Fuels?

Also, when might campaigning lawyers take on the Fossil Fuels industry?...


All on our only world,
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Not sure if this one is better placed for the Cafe...! :-(


What caused the obesity crisis in the West?

... one thing that has changed is the food we eat, and, more specifically, the sheer amount of sugar we ingest. ...

... a highly sweet by-product of waste corn, was also incredibly cheap. It began being used in every conceivable food - pizzas, coleslaw, meat. It provided a "just baked" sheen on bread and cakes.

By the mid 1980s, corn syrup had replaced sugar in fizzy soft drinks...

... when the liver is overloaded with sugars, leptin simply stops working, and as a result the body doesn't know when it's full.

"It makes your brain think you're starving and now what you have is a vicious cycle of consumption, disease and addiction. Which explains what has happened the world over,"...


Addictively sweeter than refined sugar... All far far from sweet...
Martin

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Q) What caused the obesity crisis in the West?

A) Think of all the poor starving children in [insert country here]

Momma and Dadda taught you well. Clean that plate. Now when big bad food company puts 1.5 servings in a can ... you get fat.

If someone ever invents a teleporter the first use should be in kitchens to send leftovers to 3rd world countries. :-)

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Too much sugar and salt added to our processed foods.
You can't really go by the calorie counts on any product details as written
on their products package labels. I have a can of Heinz baked beans, a can of
Sainsbury's reduced sugar and salt baked beans plus a can of Sainsbury's
Basic brand baked beans.

The following is the stated calories per 100 grams.

Heinz.................................79/100 grams
Sainsbury's reduced sugar and salt....90/100 grams
Sainsbury's Basic.....................49/100 grams.

What's wrong here? The Sainsbury's reduced sugar and salt beans have more
calories per 100 grams than the Heinz beans do yet the Sainsbury's beans
show on the label as has having much less sugar and salt in them than the
Heinz one's do?
Anyway, if you eat foods with less sugar and salt in them like the Sainsbury's
Basic brands has then you can eat heartily and without getting fat.

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Q) What caused the obesity crisis in the West?

A) Think of all the poor starving children in [insert country here]

Momma and Dadda taught you well. Clean that plate. Now when big bad food company puts 1.5 servings in a can ... you get fat.

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This is basically what I think. People with low or no self control want to blame anything or anyone else for their lack of self control. If you are too fat simply stop eating so much.

But not enough control to avoid The Chronic. ;) The 60s are over ... dude.

The free market at work.

There is a reason it is called the boob tube ...

Looks kinda flat to me.
The previous TV was more bodacious, but told me I did not prefer that.

More interestingly: Why Bangladesh??...that's what I'd like to know

Perhaps no "fast-food" outlets?... And no fast-food Marketing?


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You from Bangladesh?! Nope

More interestingly: Why Bangladesh??...that's what I'd like to know

... And I've obviously enjoyed a few more beers over the years! ;-)Yep, same here


Cheers,
Martin

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