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Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
(And, I still don't quite understand why the forum's servers have anything to do with the scientific servers....... I think it's kind of- erm - dinosaurish that the forums have to go down for scientific maintenance) It's a backup of the databases that they make on Tuesdays. The BOINC forums run with the same data from the BOINC database that keeps track of your credits etc. So when they make a full backup of this one, they take the databases off line (primary and secondary) to be sure that they won't corrupt anything. Other projects may be able to do their maintenance and backups on the fly, but then they usually have large servers as well (Einstein). In retrospect, WCG goes down for a couple of hours every evening! And then there's projects which make a backup once every month or so, which means that when something does go wrong with them, you'll have lost credit and lots of posts. |
Ex: "Socialist" Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 3433 Credit: 2,616,158 RAC: 2 |
I figured it had something to do with the credit system Jord. Just too bad they can't "disconnect" the forums from the system, during the outage. And on that note, I try to remind myself we are here to help them, not the other way around. #resist |
Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
I finally managed to get info regarding this last outage via the Lunatics web site. I was surprised that none of the Boinc sites had any info at all regarding Seti being down? Berkeley. edu made no mention of seti having any problems, to my mind this was a very poor public relation failure. Berkeley University should be our first point of contact when looking for info regarding any problems with the seti project. So, can our project leaders use this universities web site as a means of keeping us all in touch when the seti/ boinc systems go down. The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
Claggy Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4654 Credit: 47,537,079 RAC: 4 |
Hosts with Boinc 6.12.x and Boinc 7.0.x should get a notice about the power outage, But my Boinc 7.0.28 equiped Laptop has yet to receive it, hopefully it'll get it in the next 24 hours!! Claggy |
Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
Hosts with Boinc 6.12.x and Boinc 7.0.x should get a notice about the power outage, But my Boinc 7.0.28 equiped Laptop has yet to receive it, hopefully it'll get it in the next 24 hours!! Nope, I didn't get a message from boinc either!! The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31009 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Hosts with Boinc 6.12.x and Boinc 7.0.x should get a notice about the power outage, But my Boinc 7.0.28 equiped Laptop has yet to receive it, hopefully it'll get it in the next 24 hours!! You will be waiting forever. It wouldn't have done any good anyway. Very short notice to the lab before the normal outage. The notice tab can't be updated then because the servers are off line. Yes the 90 minutes after the normal outage and the power problem, but how many of you would have requested work successfully in that 90 minutes? With the new request system 7.xx, it can be days between requests for the vast majority of participants. So the notice on the home page -- home page is reachable in the normal outage -- was the best way to get the word out. MORAL --- Always check the home page first! |
Eric Korpela Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1382 Credit: 54,506,847 RAC: 60 |
It turns out that there are two mechanisms for sending "Notices" to the BOINC client. Apparently one of them has stopped working, or never worked for us. I've enabled the other mechanism. Next time your BOINC client gets an update from SETI@home you'll see some old messages. If we fix the broken mechanism you might start seeing double messages, at which point I'll disable one. @SETIEric@qoto.org (Mastodon) |
Roger Martinez Send message Joined: 23 Mar 12 Posts: 3 Credit: 74,669 RAC: 0 |
Thank you for the message, Standing by......R |
VETERANS-GAMING Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 1 Credit: 1,114,779 RAC: 0 |
Bummer man! Glad you're back up. Thanks for the update. VG www.veterans-gaming.com |
Enzeder Send message Joined: 30 Jan 01 Posts: 6 Credit: 56,862,055 RAC: 18 |
See the word "HOME" in the upper left. Press it. It will take you to the notice posted at 17:11:12 UTC that there was an outage in the works. That notice was up from then until the system was taken down. And it was up all the time the maintenance outage was going on. Nope. There is no "HOME" button when the website is offline. I wasn't talking about maintenance, I was talking about the power outage yesterday and the day before. No power = no website (as the news item on the homepage states). And I don't have the time to hit the SETI homepage every hour in the hopes of catching updates like that. As such I didn't have a cached page to stare at either. Once I noticed work units stacking up I went to investigate, but found no website. Wondered if SETI@home went down the same path as the Allen Telescope Array. I stumbled upon the answer at BOINCstats - and they had used the Google cached page of SETI@home to get the update. Because the website was down. Because there was no power. Hence no "HOME" button. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31009 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
See the word "HOME" in the upper left. Press it. It will take you to the notice posted at 17:11:12 UTC that there was an outage in the works. That notice was up from then until the system was taken down. And it was up all the time the maintenance outage was going on. Normally you should look here if you can't reach any projects home page. However because of this, which isn't normal, it wouldn't have done you much good. Point is there was about 5 hours notice. |
Will Send message Joined: 2 Jun 01 Posts: 1 Credit: 2,198,977 RAC: 5 |
hallo,I´m glad to see your system running,I guess it`s not good to have a brack,then we never now whate we lose on this time,so the hole Comnunity is happy. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
I am running 7 BOINC projects. When one is down, I have six others. Tullio |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
It turns out that there are two mechanisms for sending "Notices" to the BOINC client. Apparently one of them has stopped working, or never worked for us. I've enabled the other mechanism. Next time your BOINC client gets an update from SETI@home you'll see some old messages. If we fix the broken mechanism you might start seeing double messages, at which point I'll disable one. LOL. I've now got one copy of the notice about the original (unscheduled) outage, dated 18 May, but nothing about the second outage yet. |
Ivan Send message Joined: 23 May 12 Posts: 1 Credit: 5,085 RAC: 0 |
I thought that only in Russia failed power. |
Miki Send message Joined: 26 Aug 03 Posts: 1 Credit: 523,248 RAC: 0 |
Thanks |
perryjay Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3377 Credit: 20,676,751 RAC: 0 |
I thought that only in Russia failed power. No, we all get it, it was just inwented in Russia according to Ensign Chekov. :) PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC |
D0lphina Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 1 Credit: 108,486 RAC: 0 |
K...this is a dumb question, but...I am not sure how to read the Seti screen saver? How do I read it? |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
K...this is a dumb question, but...I am not sure how to read the Seti screen saver? How do I read it? There's a page about the classic version: Screensaver graphics explained - that should get you started. |
The Mom Send message Joined: 16 Aug 10 Posts: 4 Credit: 10,886,625 RAC: 20 |
Ever since the major power outage, all the work units I'm getting are only for my video card: SETI@home Enhanced 6.10 (cuda_fermi). Why am I not getting any for my CPU to crunch??? |
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