Eros does not appear in the Bible.

Nor is it the Vulgate, late 4th-century Latin translation of the Bible, the work of St. Jerome, commissioned by Pope Damasus I in 382.

eros is modern and ancient greek.

agápe, éros, philía, are the 3 types found in biblical sources.

I have nothing to retract.

I would like that retraction Ma'am.

Thank you......

OK, let's agree that Eros is not in the bible. How can you be 100% certain that everything in the bible, regardless of which translation, is in fact 100% true?

Homosexuality existed back then, so what has changed?

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Acceptance.

eros is modern and ancient greek.

agápe, éros, philía, are the 3 types found in biblical sources.

I have nothing to retract.

I would like that retraction Ma'am.

Thank you......

And.........? That retraction Ma'am?

Sirius, I think ID has a religious world view which harkens back to the position taken by the prosecution during the Scopes trial in Tennessee in the 1920's.

Sirius, I think ID has a religious world view which harkens back to the position taken by the prosecution during the Scopes trial in Tennessee in the 1920's.

& possibly the Spanish Inquistion! It amazes me when so called "devout" catholics forget the church's damage & their feeble attempts at covering it up.

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The Inquisition was something of a follow on example, Catholic persecutions started much earlier. Pretty much as soon as they successfully suborned the Romans they proceeded to do unto others what some of the time the Romans had done to them.

But you see, persecutions doing 'Gods work' must be considered 'good deeds' I guess.

Sirius, I think ID has a religious world view which harkens back to the position taken by the prosecution during the Scopes trial in Tennessee in the 1920's.

& possibly the Spanish Inquistion! It amazes me when so called "devout" catholics forget the church's damage & their feeble attempts at covering it up.

Acceptance.

Really? So this did not occur or mentioned in the bible then?

Sodomy

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Acceptance.

Really? So this did not occur or mentioned in the bible then?

Sodomy

Of course not, what happened is a "good" man offered his virgin daughters up to be gang raped by a crowd of men.

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ad hominem ad infinitum...

When you have nothing for the argument the attempt is made at changing the subject and humor ro ease the pain of loosing.

+4

eros is modern and ancient greek.

agápe, éros, philía, are the 3 types found in biblical sources.

I have nothing to retract.

I would like that retraction Ma'am.

Thank you......

And.........? That retraction Ma'am?

That retraction Ma'am?

Why should she? The bible makes for good reading, but No one can honestly say with 100% impunity that it is fact.

You mentioned St Jerome previously...Who made him a saint? Why a man of course!

What is a pope? Why, a man of course! All actions of the church were carried out on the interpretations of a man, & until it can be confirmed that the bible is 100% factual, we as indivduals are entitled to use our intepretations just like the pope!

Should God really exist, then it will be down to him/her to correct our mistakes when we face him.

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ad hominem ad infinitum...

When you have nothing for the argument the attempt is made at changing the subject and humor ro ease the pain of loosing.

+4

What? Please tell me you heard God speak to Jesus. Please tell me that you seen Jesus on the cross. Please tell me you saw the old & new Testaments written.

Changing the subject? I believe the thread was about Gay Marriage & you brought the bible into the conversation, so unless you can show the world that the bible is indeed factual, why are you continuing to use it?

Threads like these just brings to mind a famous old quote which is very apt for today's societies..."Man is his own worst enemy".

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eros is modern and ancient greek.

agápe, éros, philía, are the 3 types found in biblical sources.

I have nothing to retract.

I would like that retraction Ma'am.

Thank you......

And.........? That retraction Ma'am?

That retraction Ma'am?

my retraction will occur after you retract on there being a creator.
Neither of us has proof to suit the other.
It does not terminate discussion.

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Janice

Sirius, you need to take into account the way ID's mind seems to function:

1) The New Testament is absolute concrete truth (where it does various 'undo' commands of the Tenach and what that means in terms of 'absolute and concrete truth' is a separate issue which ID has never addressed

2) Layered on top of that for ID is that it is his *interpretation* of the New Testament which is absolute concrete truth. Anyone with a different reading of the New Testament is simply rejected by ID.

This of course, as ID's concrete and absoluteness drift into the political and social sphere simply broadens the scope of non-productive discussion which he engages in.

What? Please tell me you heard God speak to Jesus. Please tell me that you seen Jesus on the cross. Please tell me you saw the old & new Testaments written.

Changing the subject? I believe the thread was about Gay Marriage & you brought the bible into the conversation, so unless you can show the world that the bible is indeed factual, why are you continuing to use it?

Threads like these just brings to mind a famous old quote which is very apt for today's societies..."Man is his own worst enemy".

ad hominem ad infinitum...

When you have nothing for the argument the attempt is made at changing the subject and humor ro ease the pain of loosing.

+4

Actually I find you often have nothing for the argument, especially when confronted with the fact that your bible is full of conflicting ideas. If you just for a little while, look past your beliefs and perhaps bible passages that you are familiar with, you may begin to see that every other verse conflicts with your idea of your religion.

Whenever anyone mentions these conflicts in the bible, you are the one that changes the subject, without considering that your bible is totally open to interpretation and nothing may really be as "black and white" as you seem to think.

You can take any bible quote and use it to display your ideas. But what you can't seem to accept is that WE could also pick bible quotes to display our ideas.
You can say "god said thou shall not be a butt pirate". But If I had time and nothing better to do I could find several quotes that say "it's ok to be a butt pirate"... Catch my drift here. Just sayin. (I apologize for my paraphrase, but as someone who has several (very) gay friends, I am allowed to make light of the issue.)

But only your take on the bible is the correct one. I guess.

ID, I see you being asked direct simple questions all the time, and instead of giving a "yes" or "no" or "I agree" or "I don't agree(and this is why)", you typically avoid the direct questions altogether and come back by quoting some article or scripture. Which is a perfect example of having "nothing for the argument".

ID, can you at least agree there is more than one interpretation of the Bible?
(before you answer that, don't forget that there is a ton of different makings of the "Bible")

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#resist

Is this thread locked or not?

Once someones mind is made up on this issue I'll answer, when I get tuit....