At least it won't bump your APR up to unbelievable high values now,

No, they left me with no APR.

Yet, once you complete a full length AP v6 task that has less than 10% Blanking, and it validates, then you'll get an APR for that app,

Claggy

At least it won't bump your APR up to unbelievable high values now,

No, they left me with no APR. What is the unbelievably high value, though?

The rsc_fpops_est for AP is 1.821e15, so a runtime of 2 seconds would have driven APR toward 910500.0 or so, 910.5 TeraFLOPS or nearly 1 PetaFLOPS.

Note: I'm using FLOPS in the generally accepted meaning Floating Point Operations Per Second. It's a rate, not a count.

                                                                   Joe

Just wanted to note that I don't know when/if that changeset for the credits thing went into effect, but the two tasks in my list that have validated since that was posted here have gained ~200 credits. The wingmates that were involved on those, it was their first or second completed task according to application details. Was looking at the 550 range before, now it is in the low-mid 700s.

Anyone else seeing something similar?

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Linux laptop:
record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up)

I have two questions for those in the know about the new V6 AP apps.

1. Will there be an AP_V6 stock version available shortly for 32-bit Linux to go along with the Windows version?.

2. I see there is a beta version of the 64-bit Linux AP_v6 version now (R546). Once it leaves beta status, will there be a version compiled for 32-bit Linux based of the same source code, or alternatively, will a tarball be made available for Linux users to compile their own?

About your 2. Q :
There will be optimized 32bit and 64bit APv6 versions for Linux available as soon as the validator/credit issues here are called off.
The source code (r546) will be also available at lunatics. But don't expect a tarball, 7z compresses better these days.

It appears the AP_V6 Windows optimized versions (r555 &r557) have been released. Are the Linux versions far behind?

I have two questions for those in the know about the new V6 AP apps.

1. Will there be an AP_V6 stock version available shortly for 32-bit Linux to go along with the Windows version?.

2. I see there is a beta version of the 64-bit Linux AP_v6 version now (R546). Once it leaves beta status, will there be a version compiled for 32-bit Linux based of the same source code, or alternatively, will a tarball be made available for Linux users to compile their own?

About your 2. Q :
There will be optimized 32bit and 64bit APv6 versions for Linux available as soon as the validator/credit issues here are called off.
The source code (r546) will be also available at lunatics. But don't expect a tarball, 7z compresses better these days.

It appears the AP_V6 Windows optimized versions (r555 &r557) have been released. Are the Linux versions far behind?

r555 and r557 haven't been released yet, they are still in Beta testing, once the nod from Eric has been received then they'll be released in the 0.40 Installers.

linux AP apps are in Alpha testing, hopefully one of the Linux Gurus will actually download & test them before release: (1060.15 KB - downloaded 0 times.)

Claggy

linux AP apps are in Alpha testing, hopefully one of the Linux Gurus will actually download & test them before release: (1060.15 KB - downloaded 0 times.)

I would gladly run them, but the only available release I see is " Beta1-Linux 64bit AstroPulse, v6.01 (r546 BETA)" (19 downloads) with note s@h-beta only.

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I have two questions for those in the know about the new V6 AP apps.

1. Will there be an AP_V6 stock version available shortly for 32-bit Linux to go along with the Windows version?.

2. I see there is a beta version of the 64-bit Linux AP_v6 version now (R546). Once it leaves beta status, will there be a version compiled for 32-bit Linux based of the same source code, or alternatively, will a tarball be made available for Linux users to compile their own?

About your 2. Q :
There will be optimized 32bit and 64bit APv6 versions for Linux available as soon as the validator/credit issues here are called off.
The source code (r546) will be also available at lunatics. But don't expect a tarball, 7z compresses better these days.

It appears the AP_V6 Windows optimized versions (r555 &r557) have been released. Are the Linux versions far behind?

r555 and r557 haven't been released yet, they are still in Beta testing, once the nod from Eric has been received then they'll be released in the 0.40 Installers.

linux AP apps are in Alpha testing, hopefully one of the Linux Gurus will actually download & test them before release: (1060.15 KB - downloaded 0 times.)

Claggy

OK. I thought that since the Linux version (http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=34) was clearly marked "r446 beta" while the Windows versions (http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=31) was not that it had been released. Good thing I covered myself by saying it "appears" to be released ;-).

linux AP apps are in Alpha testing, hopefully one of the Linux Gurus will actually download & test them before release: (1060.15 KB - downloaded 0 times.)

I would gladly run them, but the only available release I see is " Beta1-Linux 64bit AstroPulse, v6.01 (r546 BETA)" (19 downloads) with note s@h-beta only.

I'm looking at the 32bit version of r546 that's posted in my Astropulse v6 Dev thread, no doubt it'll be released for Beta testing shortly.

Claggy

Astropulse V6.01 application files will not download on my machine, I get instant HTTP errors while trying to connect. It's been going on for several days now. Any suggesting on how to fix?

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Astropulse V6.01 application files will not download on my machine, I get instant HTTP errors while trying to connect. It's been going on for several days now. Any suggesting on how to fix?

What exactly are you trying to download? Or is BOINC trying to get AP 6.01 stock?

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I'm not the Pope. I don't speak Ex Cathedra!

control part of the program (running on the host CPU) has to be different.

so it will make it fail ? :(

Cant wait the other is ready. because doing AP on CPU i always found it silly and doing a 8hrs-12hrs-18hrs task on a core.. i will never accept that. Sorry

Correct. Carry on using that until the dust settles on this rollout, and you are ready to choose which applications you wish to run. The updated application to run AP (the new version) on CPU is the only benefit you will find in the new installer.

1) ATi AP improved also so you could expect improved speed over prev release.
2) NV AP will not (in most cases) fail. It will work and accordingly already available reports it will work fast.
But there are 2 issues we want to be fixed before inclusion of NV AP to installer:
a) 100% CPU usage. Currently I'm working on possible workaround, hope it will be clear if such workaround possible or not in few days. But I still believe that proper solution is bugfix for nVidia (in their driver). This bug was reported few months ago already, was confirmed and "in process"... few months. So, give nice kick to NV debugger group if you can ;)

b) Silent failures (incorrect overflows) if GPU can't handle proposed parameters (i.e., proposed unroll value). I can't recall such behavior on ATi GPUs. There is error reported if something go wrong. But here user even will not know that there is something wrong until incorrectly overflowed tasks will start to fail validation. Fix is quite simple - to reduce unroll/fetch values and this helps in most cases... but we feel it's not suitable for installer target audience.
(cause there is no error reported to deal with) it's again a shot at NV's OpenCL driver group. Make clear OpenCL error reporting instead of doing buffer corruption...

Nevertheless, NV AP is quite suitable for advanced users who can check their task logs and don't fear to edit app_info manually. App will be released soon as separate binary.

Would you believe it, new apps out, installed fine on rig 1, went to install on rig 2, and boinc has gone bonkers and everything is running HP, and of course it bumped a bucket of running tasks into 'waiting to run':-/

Damm daft thing, there are tasks there that had a couple of mins to run to completion.

Anyway I'm gonna wait to upgrade rig 2 when boinc gotten over its spasm of HPing

Anyone else noticed a definate lag with S@H today?
Cheers,

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Cliff,
Been there, Done that, Still no damm T shirt!

Cliff, did you remember to redo your flops? The new installer gives you a brand new app_info and it doesn't have the flops entry.

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PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC

Cliff, did you remember to redo your flops? The new installer gives you a brand new app_info and it doesn't have the flops entry.

I dont have a flops entry in app_info..
I've been running the default app_info apart from a very brief punt into trying out 2 tasks per gpu.. PSU couldnt hack the power drain, got rebootitis until I removed the offending entries..

When I have a good rig for crunching, which at present is some time away:-/ I'll start to tweak my app info on that rig.

So far I just have a new HAFX case on order, then as and when I can find the pennies, new mobo, new GPU[s] and 1000watt PSU..

Regards,

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Cliff,
Been there, Done that, Still no damm T shirt!

Thank you Richard. Mine was set to 6 hours but there must be a bug as they come far more often than that.

15/03/2012 04:39:48 | SETI@home | Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of AstroPulse v6.
15/03/2012 05:44:09 | SETI@home | Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of AstroPulse v6.
15/03/2012 07:32:13 | SETI@home | Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of AstroPulse v6.

If you didn't have an app_info and didn't have the AP V6 switch selected, you would get a message saying 'there is AP v6 work available, but your preferences are set to not accept it',
it's just the server's way of saying why you didn't get that task it could have sent you,

Claggy

What if you are getting the message:

“Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of AstroPulse v6”

and you DO have an app_info.xml file, you DO have the app, you DO have the AP v6 switch selected, and you DO want V6 AP work units?

I am receiving MB work units and the occasional 5.05/5.06 work unit but so far no V6. What is the server saying in this case?


My app_info.xml looks like the following and I see nothing wrong with it, but perhaps I am overlooking something. It wouldn’t be the first time.



<app_info>

<app>
<name>astropulse_v6</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_6.01r546_sse3_linux32</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v6</app_name>
<version_num>601</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_6.01r546_sse3_linux32</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_V8_linux32_ssse3</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>6.10.58</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_V8_linux32_ssse3</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

<app>
<name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.06r411b_sse_linux32</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>506</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.06r411b_sse_linux32</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

</app_info>


Sorry about the indents being stripped away but I did put extra spaces between the sections which might help make it more readable.

Thank you Richard. Mine was set to 6 hours but there must be a bug as they come far more often than that.

15/03/2012 04:39:48 | SETI@home | Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of AstroPulse v6.
15/03/2012 05:44:09 | SETI@home | Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of AstroPulse v6.
15/03/2012 07:32:13 | SETI@home | Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of AstroPulse v6.

If you didn't have an app_info and didn't have the AP V6 switch selected, you would get a message saying 'there is AP v6 work available, but your preferences are set to not accept it',
it's just the server's way of saying why you didn't get that task it could have sent you,

Claggy

What if you are getting the message:

“Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of AstroPulse v6”

and you DO have an app_info.xml file, you DO have the app, you DO have the AP v6 switch selected, and you DO want V6 AP work units?

I am receiving MB work units and the occasional 5.05/5.06 work unit but so far no V6. What is the server saying in this case?


My app_info.xml looks like the following and I see nothing wrong with it, but perhaps I am overlooking something. It wouldn’t be the first time.



<app_info>

<app>
<name>astropulse_v6</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_6.01r546_sse3_linux32</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v6</app_name>
<version_num>601</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_6.01r546_sse3_linux32</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_V8_linux32_ssse3</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>6.10.58</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_V8_linux32_ssse3</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

<app>
<name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.06r411b_sse_linux32</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>506</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.06r411b_sse_linux32</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

</app_info>


Sorry about the indents being stripped away but I did put extra spaces between the sections which might help make it more readable.

I can't see anything wrong with the app_info to do with AP v6, the 6.10.58 version number for setiathome_enhanced is a bit odd,

The only thing i can think of is: you have restarted Boinc haven't you? if you edited the app_info, and didn't restart Boinc, you'd still be using the app_info settings from earlier.

Claggy

Thank you Richard. Mine was set to 6 hours but there must be a bug as they come far more often than that.

15/03/2012 04:39:48 | SETI@home | Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of AstroPulse v6.
15/03/2012 05:44:09 | SETI@home | Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of AstroPulse v6.
15/03/2012 07:32:13 | SETI@home | Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of AstroPulse v6.

If you didn't have an app_info and didn't have the AP V6 switch selected, you would get a message saying 'there is AP v6 work available, but your preferences are set to not accept it',
it's just the server's way of saying why you didn't get that task it could have sent you,

Claggy

What if you are getting the message:

“Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of AstroPulse v6”

and you DO have an app_info.xml file, you DO have the app, you DO have the AP v6 switch selected, and you DO want V6 AP work units?

I am receiving MB work units and the occasional 5.05/5.06 work unit but so far no V6. What is the server saying in this case?


My app_info.xml looks like the following and I see nothing wrong with it, but perhaps I am overlooking something. It wouldn’t be the first time.



<app_info>

<app>
<name>astropulse_v6</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_6.01r546_sse3_linux32</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v6</app_name>
<version_num>601</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_6.01r546_sse3_linux32</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_V8_linux32_ssse3</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>6.10.58</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_V8_linux32_ssse3</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

<app>
<name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.06r411b_sse_linux32</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>506</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.06r411b_sse_linux32</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

</app_info>


Sorry about the indents being stripped away but I did put extra spaces between the sections which might help make it more readable.

I can't see anything wrong with the app_info to do with AP v6, the 6.10.58 version number for setiathome_enhanced is a bit odd,

The only thing i can think of is: you have restarted Boinc haven't you? if you edited the app_info, and didn't restart Boinc, you'd still be using the app_info settings from earlier.

Claggy

I have restarted boinc numerous times and even rebooted the server during an off time when it wouldn't be noticed. I have checked permissions, owner/group, and even copied the app into several directories beyond the one where all the apps normally are in case it is looking for the app in a new location.

I don't receive the "unusable version" every time there is an update and often receive the "no tasks available" and "reached a limit on tasks in progress" instead but it is funny that I will still get a 505/506 download, and plenty of MBs when selected, but never a 601 when there should be a lot more available for 601 than 505/506.

dsh, can you post the Boinc startup messages from that host please, the first 20 to 30 lines will do,

Claggy

dsh, can you post the Boinc startup messages from that host please, the first 20 to 30 lines will do,

Claggy

Here you go.

01-Apr-2012 12:12:59 [---] Starting BOINC client version 6.2.14 for i686-pc-linux-gnu
01-Apr-2012 12:12:59 [---] This a development version of BOINC and may not function properly
01-Apr-2012 12:12:59 [---] log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
01-Apr-2012 12:12:59 [---] Libraries: libcurl/7.21.4 OpenSSL/0.9.8n zlib/1.2.5 libidn/1.22
01-Apr-2012 12:12:59 [---] Running as a daemon
01-Apr-2012 12:12:59 [---] Data directory: /usr/sbin/BOINC
01-Apr-2012 12:12:59 [SETI@home] Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
01-Apr-2012 12:12:59 [---] Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E6500 @ 2.93GHz [Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 10]
01-Apr-2012 12:12:59 [---] Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm xsave lahf_lm d
01-Apr-2012 12:12:59 [---] OS: Linux: 3.2.7-smp
01-Apr-2012 12:12:59 [---] Memory: 1.94 GB physical, 4.66 GB virtual
01-Apr-2012 12:12:59 [---] Disk: 43.89 GB total, 13.37 GB free
01-Apr-2012 12:12:59 [---] Local time is UTC -4 hours
01-Apr-2012 12:12:59 [---] No coprocessors
01-Apr-2012 12:12:59 [SETI@home] URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 6538782; location: (none); project prefs: default
01-Apr-2012 12:12:59 [---] General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 23-Mar-2012 13:16:11)
01-Apr-2012 12:12:59 [---] Host location: none
01-Apr-2012 12:12:59 [---] General prefs: using your defaults
01-Apr-2012 12:12:59 [---] Preferences limit memory usage when active to 993.52MB
01-Apr-2012 12:12:59 [---] Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1967.17MB
01-Apr-2012 12:12:59 [---] Preferences limit disk usage to 13.36GB
01-Apr-2012 12:13:00 [SETI@home] Restarting task 09my11aa.19065.131524.11.10.48_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 6
01-Apr-2012 12:13:00 [SETI@home] Restarting task 09my11aa.22659.134248.12.10.16_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 6
01-Apr-2012 12:15:10 [SETI@home] Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 2381406 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
01-Apr-2012 12:15:15 [SETI@home] Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
01-Apr-2012 12:15:15 [SETI@home] Message from server: No tasks sent
01-Apr-2012 12:15:15 [SETI@home] Message from server: No tasks are available for Astropulse v505
01-Apr-2012 12:15:15 [SETI@home] Message from server: No tasks are available for AstroPulse v6
01-Apr-2012 12:15:15 [SETI@home] Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of AstroPulse v6.
01-Apr-2012 12:15:15 [SETI@home] Message from server: No tasks are available for the applications you have selected.
01-Apr-2012 12:15:15 [SETI@home] Message from server: This computer has reached a limit on tasks in progress

dsh, can you post the Boinc startup messages from that host please, the first 20 to 30 lines will do,

Claggy

Here you go.

01-Apr-2012 12:12:59 [---] Data directory: /usr/sbin/BOINC

O.K, i just wanted to make sure you had the right directory for the app_info.xml and apps, it should be something like /usr/sbin/BOINC/projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/

Claggy