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Message 1197056 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 22:46:02 UTC

the two days of work was good while it lasted. GPU will be done in two hours. Plenty of AP's for a couple of days.
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Message 1197058 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 22:47:25 UTC - in response to Message 1197054.  

soon, Msattler and RottenMutt with your 300k RACs , you will be alone able to post here ^^


I think you're on to something here. The lack of WU's is a conspiracy really. Msattler and RottenMutt have done something to the servers, in order for them to be able to take over this message board...

Wow, what a revelation....
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Message 1197070 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 23:07:03 UTC
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wow i just recieved 3 vlars on my big Cruncher lol
2/18/2012 5:44:26 PM SETI@home Reporting 2 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for CPU
2/18/2012 5:44:29 PM SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 3 new tasks


i said earlier, this morning i recieved 103 wu early this morning toward 5am-7am... and i didnt recieved any till 10mins ago.

but the big funny thing, all this afternoon, in my little crunch, my snail (i m calling it) i recieved tons of them. he is so slow, and dont need them, bah all day he got so many, while my big one, recieved nothing.

i dont understand priorities ^^

EDIT: from little Snail-PC ^^ :
2012-02-18 09:44:34 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 3 new tasks
2012-02-18 11:06:13 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 5 new tasks
2012-02-18 13:43:17 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 14 new tasks
2012-02-18 14:03:44 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 3 new tasks
2012-02-18 15:59:12 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 7 new tasks
2012-02-18 16:19:41 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 34 new tasks
2012-02-18 17:27:07 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 24 new tasks


(he takes 18mins to make a cuda, and 5 to 6 hrs to make a cpu one :S)
who understand ? cause i dont ^^
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Message 1197094 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 23:33:31 UTC - in response to Message 1197070.  

(he takes 18mins to make a cuda, and 5 to 6 hrs to make a cpu one :S)
who understand ? cause i dont ^^

It ha been a coincidence for quite some time now that slow machines seem to have near-zero difficulty in getting work, whilst more powerful machines go idle for many hours with dozens of "project has no tasks available" messages. Some call it a conspiracy, but I just find it interesting.

Maybe it has something to do with the number of seconds of work that is being requested. My slower machine usually asks for <100 seconds of work and gets a single MB every time it asks. Same for when it was AP-only. It would ask for <1000 seconds of work and get an AP nearly every single time. Meanwhile, the main cruncher would ask for >2M seconds and got "no tasks available." Interesting indeed.
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Message 1197101 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 23:38:55 UTC - in response to Message 1197094.  
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Maybe it has something to do with the number of seconds of work that is being requested. My slower machine usually asks for <100 seconds of work and gets a single MB every time it asks. Same for when it was AP-only. It would ask for <1000 seconds of work and get an AP nearly every single time. Meanwhile, the main cruncher would ask for >2M seconds and got "no tasks available." Interesting indeed.


oh ! is there a way to change these numbers around ?
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Message 1197160 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 2:45:13 UTC - in response to Message 1197101.  


Maybe it has something to do with the number of seconds of work that is being requested. My slower machine usually asks for <100 seconds of work and gets a single MB every time it asks. Same for when it was AP-only. It would ask for <1000 seconds of work and get an AP nearly every single time. Meanwhile, the main cruncher would ask for >2M seconds and got "no tasks available." Interesting indeed.


oh ! is there a way to change these numbers around ?

Probably not. I don't think there's anything actually specifically hard-coded into the server-side logic to do this sort of thing. It's just one of those things that just happens. Granted, I've been observing it on my machines for quite some time, but there have been a few other people here on the forums to find similar situations. Such as a few weeks ago, there was a slow P4 machine that was somehow managing to get dozens of APs/day when everyone else with reliable and fast machines couldn't get any, and that machine was erroring-out on every single one of the APs it got.
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Message 1197162 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 2:57:45 UTC - in response to Message 1197160.  

lol, kk, too bad
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Message 1197194 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 4:55:11 UTC
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Results Ready to Send for MB has climbed in the last few minutes to 600. Everyone's cache must be full (LOL)

MB assimilators are still climbing too, maybe the source of the blockage.



edit: OOPS, spoke too soon, 5 min later RTS is 0.
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Message 1197201 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 5:45:19 UTC

Looks like completed and validated WUs are not being removed from the system. My number of valid tasks is very very high right now.
That is most likely what the snag is.
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Message 1197205 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 6:03:41 UTC

My 2 Fermi cards are stuck doing Primegrid for right now as I blew through all of my SETI Cuda tasks. I am also fairly low on CPU work as well.

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Message 1197209 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 6:38:09 UTC

Well the economy is bad even though it's an election year, but when you even run out of volunteer work it's pretty sad indeed.
When we finally figure it all out, all the rules will change and we can start all over again.
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Message 1197213 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 7:21:44 UTC - in response to Message 1197201.  

Looks like completed and validated WUs are not being removed from the system. My number of valid tasks is very very high right now.


Surely they can't be removed before they been added to sciense database, and as we know, there is exactly the problem...
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Message 1197243 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 11:25:55 UTC

This might not be the right place for this message.

The 'APOD' site has a direct link to 'Seti at Home' today.
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Message 1197244 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 11:30:26 UTC

Looks like zero wu's are going out again. Guess I'll wait a little longer to try our my new duel 448 setup.
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Message 1197246 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 11:37:42 UTC

Searching for aliens using you own computer?!?!?! Whatever will they think of next...

Still PrimeGridding here. Looking forward to hearing what the interference on long wave radio of SETI CUDA tasks sound like (...).
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Message 1197250 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 12:15:24 UTC
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lol again my little snail pc got wu this morning /shrug

2012-02-19 06:10:36 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 5 new tasks
2012-02-19 06:23:46 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 13 new tasks
2012-02-19 06:58:33 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 5 new tasks
2012-02-19 07:13:55 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 47 new tasks

(time is computer time - east coast. i ve just got the 47 tasks 30sec ago)


and i ve got 2x 1 task since yesterday afternoon on my big one
it s just stupid
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Message 1197255 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 12:43:37 UTC

I have might a stupid guess. Given that the completed WUs can not be removed, may be there is disk space ended, and splitters are just nowhere to place new WUs?
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Message 1197263 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 13:23:40 UTC - in response to Message 1197255.  

I have might a stupid guess. Given that the completed WUs can not be removed, may be there is disk space ended, and splitters are just nowhere to place new WUs?

Not a stupid guess.
I suspect that is what is going on right now.
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Message 1197356 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 17:36:03 UTC

Well, I see that ET still has control of the servers and is doing their best to throttle the distribution of new work.
We must be getting close...LOL.
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Message 1197364 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 17:52:59 UTC - in response to Message 1197356.  

Well, I see that ET still has control of the servers and is doing their best to throttle the distribution of new work.
We must be getting close...LOL.


Yes, I believe the project is over. I'ver heard rumours that many people running SETI has been getting E-mails from an unknown source, with the following short message:

"We are the Borg. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Resistance is futile."

So, I had my fears from the beginning of this project. What we would find might not be the nice benevolent ET that most people was thinking about. Now, we're all collectively getting the punishment we deserve for being so naive. It's just a matter of months now, before they will start assimilating the entire population of this planet, and there's nothing whatsoever we can do to stop it from happening.


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