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Message 1211435 - Posted: 29 Mar 2012, 6:31:06 UTC
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Well I've modified a driver inf file by adding 3 lines from 267.91 to 266.58, I found by looking at the inf for 267.91 that it is a 590 only driver, yet 266.58 has no lines for the 590, but 266.58 does have support for the 2 cousins of the 590, the 570 and more importantly the GTX580 card, I modified the "266.58_desktop_win7_winvista_64bit_english_whql.exe" driver. But then I had great success with the 460 gpus and 266.58...

So any opinions?

No I'm going to wait until daylight to try out the modified inf file.
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Message 1211439 - Posted: 29 Mar 2012, 6:58:57 UTC - in response to Message 1211435.  

Well I've modified a driver inf file by adding 3 lines from 267.91 to 266.58, I found by looking at the inf for 267.91 that it is a 590 only driver, yet 266.58 has no lines for the 590, but 266.58 does have support for the 2 cousins of the 590, the 570 and more importantly the GTX580 card, I modified the "266.58_desktop_win7_winvista_64bit_english_whql.exe" driver. But then I had great success with the 460 gpus and 266.58...

So any opinions?

No I'm going to wait until daylight to try out the modified inf file.

Oh and since the 266.58 driver has support for the GTX295 card, It therefore should support dual gpus as that is what a 295 or a 590 is and the 590 has essentially 2-580 class gpus, which are held back by the card bios to slower stock speeds than a 580...
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Message 1211520 - Posted: 29 Mar 2012, 13:53:09 UTC - in response to Message 1211439.  
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Well I've modified a driver inf file by adding 3 lines from 267.91 to 266.58, I found by looking at the inf for 267.91 that it is a 590 only driver, yet 266.58 has no lines for the 590, but 266.58 does have support for the 2 cousins of the 590, the 570 and more importantly the GTX580 card, I modified the "266.58_desktop_win7_winvista_64bit_english_whql.exe" driver. But then I had great success with the 460 gpus and 266.58...

So any opinions?

No I'm going to wait until daylight to try out the modified inf file.

Oh and since the 266.58 driver has support for the GTX295 card, It therefore should support dual gpus as that is what a 295 or a 590 is and the 590 has essentially 2-580 class gpus, which are held back by the card bios to slower stock speeds than a 580...

Ok after checking the source inf(267.91) vs the recipient inf(266.58), I did some comparing of the relevant sections for the 590(27 and 28) and found them to be alike in both inf files, only the 3 lines of text added to the inf(266.58) changed the inf(266.58), Last night when I extracted the files(which to the OS meant I wanted to install), the 266.58 inf failed the compatibility check before being modded, after being modded, the inf(266.58) passed the compatibility check, so far so good, no I haven't installed 266.58 on MY GTX590 yet... yawn.
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Message 1220115 - Posted: 19 Apr 2012, 0:58:19 UTC
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Ok It took Me 4 hours and 19 minutes but starting at 1pm I shut the PC down, and then transferred everything over to the HAF-932 case from the Antec Fusion Remote Max HTPC case, plus I got out some DEMCi magnetic filters for the HAF-932 I'd bought nearly a year ago that had sat in a box and applied them(I have enough for 2 HAF-932 cases), plus I did a lot of cleaning of the motherboard, the radiator(both sides, yuck, almost totally covered, RealTemp says the temps are at 28-33C now or idle), plus the 590 card needed some brushing and at idle it's doing 29/37C or about 10C cooler than before as there was some gunk there, just not a lot, got a chance to add a 4th pci-e cable to the 1500w psu for the eventual 2nd 590 card, a 3rd 590 would fit of course, but it would mean moving one of the 120mm fans in the top to the front, but that might be for down the road as the only working and compatible psu I have for that is an 850 Corsair 850TX psu, which is not modular, the 1050w needs a new 24 pin connector and 2 wires fixed and it will be as good as new. I also added a DVD-rom drive that was sitting around, plus inside and outside I'd photographed all of the cable positions, that helped a lot as I had no hassles waiting for Win7 to install hardly anything, not bad. That replacement Sears Kenmore vacuum cleaner I'd bought on ebay last month really sucks, no complaints there, but then it's the one thing one wants to suck. LOL...

Oh and 301.24 is being used now and has been for most of a week, no problems...

Temps while running S@H are coming in now at 64/68C, before they were at 76/87C.
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Message 1220481 - Posted: 20 Apr 2012, 2:41:42 UTC

Well the case has all it's filters on and it stays plenty cool the gpus are at 67-69/72-73C, while cpu is about 39-40C @ 2.81GHz, all fans are in the stock directions of course, I'd tried having the front fan as an exhaust but that didn't exhaust any air and it made the case warmer.


Also the Win 7 OS tried to install Asus Cool n Quiet for some reason(on an Intel P55 system no less), I stopped that as It was affecting the gpu performance and hogging the gpus or cpu for some reason.
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Message 1242649 - Posted: 7 Jun 2012, 6:15:09 UTC - in response to Message 1197380.  

Unfortunately, EVGA wont warranty the cards if you arent the original owner....

The frequent crashes should have been the trigger that alerted you to the possibility of video card problems. Outside of crappy drivers, high temperatures are usually the cause of these crashes.

Have you tried booting these cards up from another computer (for just a few seconds) to determine if they are really dead?

If they don't come up then they are very dead and not worth reviving.

No other computer exists here, I'd thought of putting them up for sale as spare parts. I might though give one of them 1 one chance, just for curiosity, clean out any final dust and change the the thermal compound to AS5 on the gpus and the nf200 chip, if nothing happens then it's no loss as it won't cost Me any money to do so, just time and a little effort, which isn't all that much to do really, if it comes up then try on the 2nd as I'd read that the gpus just shut down over a certain temp to protect themselves.

If the cards won't boot up with both GPUs cold, changing the HS compound and cleaning them is not gonna do any good, as they have not even come up to temp at that point.

Only other outside chance of saving them is the infamous oven trick, stripping them down and baking the circuit boards in an effort to reflow the solder. This has met with mixed success....there are numerous posts and youtube clips on the subject.



Thank you for this suggestion. At first I thought it was a joke but thought I have nothing to loose.

I had a look at some videos and thought why not. I had a GTX 280 in the bin that I swapped out for a client. The card would work with 2D but as soon as you stressed the card it would BSOD.

I followed suggestions, Temp 190C for 9 minutes, let it cool down, reassembled it and presto. It has been working for the last hour doing Seti, I hope it keeps going.

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Message 1242800 - Posted: 7 Jun 2012, 15:07:38 UTC
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Message 1243068 - Posted: 7 Jun 2012, 21:32:22 UTC - in response to Message 1242649.  

Unfortunately, EVGA wont warranty the cards if you arent the original owner....

The frequent crashes should have been the trigger that alerted you to the possibility of video card problems. Outside of crappy drivers, high temperatures are usually the cause of these crashes.

Have you tried booting these cards up from another computer (for just a few seconds) to determine if they are really dead?

If they don't come up then they are very dead and not worth reviving.

No other computer exists here, I'd thought of putting them up for sale as spare parts. I might though give one of them 1 one chance, just for curiosity, clean out any final dust and change the the thermal compound to AS5 on the gpus and the nf200 chip, if nothing happens then it's no loss as it won't cost Me any money to do so, just time and a little effort, which isn't all that much to do really, if it comes up then try on the 2nd as I'd read that the gpus just shut down over a certain temp to protect themselves.

If the cards won't boot up with both GPUs cold, changing the HS compound and cleaning them is not gonna do any good, as they have not even come up to temp at that point.

Only other outside chance of saving them is the infamous oven trick, stripping them down and baking the circuit boards in an effort to reflow the solder. This has met with mixed success....there are numerous posts and youtube clips on the subject.



Thank you for this suggestion. At first I thought it was a joke but thought I have nothing to loose.

I had a look at some videos and thought why not. I had a GTX 280 in the bin that I swapped out for a client. The card would work with 2D but as soon as you stressed the card it would BSOD.

I followed suggestions, Temp 190C for 9 minutes, let it cool down, reassembled it and presto. It has been working for the last hour doing Seti, I hope it keeps going.

Arvid


18-hours and still going strong after the baking and no errors.


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Message 1243208 - Posted: 8 Jun 2012, 7:15:02 UTC - in response to Message 1243068.  



18-hours and still going strong after the baking and no errors.


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6685901

Arvid

Glad the recipe worked out for you..
Hope it holds up.
Keep the fan ramped up and mind the temps.
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Message 1244395 - Posted: 10 Jun 2012, 16:26:53 UTC - in response to Message 1243068.  

Unfortunately, EVGA wont warranty the cards if you arent the original owner....

The frequent crashes should have been the trigger that alerted you to the possibility of video card problems. Outside of crappy drivers, high temperatures are usually the cause of these crashes.

Have you tried booting these cards up from another computer (for just a few seconds) to determine if they are really dead?

If they don't come up then they are very dead and not worth reviving.

No other computer exists here, I'd thought of putting them up for sale as spare parts. I might though give one of them 1 one chance, just for curiosity, clean out any final dust and change the the thermal compound to AS5 on the gpus and the nf200 chip, if nothing happens then it's no loss as it won't cost Me any money to do so, just time and a little effort, which isn't all that much to do really, if it comes up then try on the 2nd as I'd read that the gpus just shut down over a certain temp to protect themselves.

If the cards won't boot up with both GPUs cold, changing the HS compound and cleaning them is not gonna do any good, as they have not even come up to temp at that point.

Only other outside chance of saving them is the infamous oven trick, stripping them down and baking the circuit boards in an effort to reflow the solder. This has met with mixed success....there are numerous posts and youtube clips on the subject.



Thank you for this suggestion. At first I thought it was a joke but thought I have nothing to loose.

I had a look at some videos and thought why not. I had a GTX 280 in the bin that I swapped out for a client. The card would work with 2D but as soon as you stressed the card it would BSOD.

I followed suggestions, Temp 190C for 9 minutes, let it cool down, reassembled it and presto. It has been working for the last hour doing Seti, I hope it keeps going.

Arvid


18-hours and still going strong after the baking and no errors.


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6685901

Arvid

Must have had some cold solder joint or some parts worked loose.
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