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Message 1203091 - Posted: 6 Mar 2012, 19:51:20 UTC

Ok I got the EVGA GTX460 @WIN card all tied up, it's as tight as it will get too, what do Ya think?

The fan shroud doesn't move very much and the fan doesn't even get close to the zip tie, Green was what I had on hand and I used 3 of them too.
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Message 1203100 - Posted: 6 Mar 2012, 20:22:20 UTC - in response to Message 1203091.  

Good enough for govm'nt work!
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Message 1203181 - Posted: 7 Mar 2012, 1:21:53 UTC

Ok after some installation problems on the EVGA GTX460 2WIN card due to it's length of about 11", I had to rearrange some internal cabling, but all is well on triple 460 power, I'm currently crunching 6 wu's at a time on 3 gpus, the zip tie fix is working perfectly and the temps for the 2WIN is about 83-85C per gpu, the MSI Cyclone is at 60C by comparison...


Internal cabling problem caused this, this was on My secondary monitor.

And a restart after turning the power off fixed the problems, it's a long card.

Nuff said, I'm crunching 6 wu's at a time now, each GTX460 has 1GB of memory, this is on My primary monitor which wasn't detected at 1st, I'm happy for the moment, a couple of EVGA screws would be nice, but I don't see that as happening anytime soon and the zip tie fix will only result in 1 zip tie being replaced and the other 2 will just be reused as they are.
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Message 1203454 - Posted: 7 Mar 2012, 19:49:17 UTC
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Well the lines in the screen came back and no matter what I did they wouldn't go away, I removed the adapter cable I'd bought and added in another 8pin pci-e connector/cable while I had the psu off, then I turned the PC back on and yep the lines were still there and of course My sound and AV were disabled, I then proceeded to remove the bad EVGA 2GB GTX460 2WIN card, and so I put the 1GB MSI GTX460 Cyclone in the main pci-e slot and My problems with the lines and the disabled sound went away, I'd uninstalled AVAST in frustration and installed AVG which is working just fine. And yes I'm running 3 S@H wu's on this 1GB MSI GTX460 Cyclone(Yee haw!), I've also opened a case so that I can get a refund as the card is a piece of junk and w/o a warranty it's a paperweight...
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Message 1204424 - Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 3:33:04 UTC
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Well the 2 MSI GTX460 1GB Cyclones are on their way, One is coming from TX and the other from NH, I'm running 290.53 and I doubt I'll go lower than that, 275.33 is a dog on the 460, I'm getting 140.8GB/s bandwidth out of the card and the temp hasn't done more than 53C so far, it's 50C right now and yep it's overclocked too...


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Message 1204443 - Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 4:31:32 UTC - in response to Message 1204424.  


Victor, right click on GPU-Z's Title bar and scroll down to "Read ASIC quality..." and click that.

0.5.9 says 74.3% here for my Gigabyte 460, while the 0.5.8 version said 69.7%.

Supposedly, the higher the ASIC Q reading, the better the wafer/chip quality is.

No idea how accurate the numbers are or if they are even comparable for different manufacturer's, different wafer runs, different series cards, etc..


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Message 1204445 - Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 4:35:26 UTC - in response to Message 1204443.  


Victor, right click on GPU-Z's Title bar and scroll down to "Read ASIC quality..." and click that.

0.5.9 says 74.3% here for my Gigabyte 460, while the 0.5.8 version said 69.7%.

Supposedly, the higher the ASIC Q reading, the better the wafer/chip quality is.

No idea how accurate the numbers are or if they are even comparable for different manufacturer's, different wafer runs, different series cards, etc..


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Mine says 72.9%, No surprise there as stock for this gpu is 726MHz.
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Message 1204453 - Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 4:55:42 UTC - in response to Message 1204445.  



72.9% should be good! I don't have my memory set as high as you do, but my core and shader clocks are higher. This card runs at 59-62c most of the time. 2 wu's at a time. I don't like the lag with 3 wu's running, and I suspend gpu crunching when watching a dvd.

I hope the 'new cards' work ok for you!

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Message 1204457 - Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 5:01:47 UTC - in response to Message 1204452.  


80.2! Real good, eh...

I don't remember what blog/forum I was reading, but that was the gist of the idea - the better wafer/chips would go into the premium cards, the x80's and x90's...while the regular cards like x60's would get the just ok wafers/chips.


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Message 1204462 - Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 5:16:01 UTC - in response to Message 1204453.  
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72.9% should be good! I don't have my memory set as high as you do, but my core and shader clocks are higher. This card runs at 59-62c most of the time. 2 wu's at a time. I don't like the lag with 3 wu's running, and I suspend gpu crunching when watching a dvd.

I hope the 'new cards' work ok for you!

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Thanks Lint, yeah I'm doing 2 at a time also I'm looking at getting some EVGA GTX560(1280MB) Classified Ti 448 cards(797MHz!) or If I didn't mind used a GTX480(1536MB), Both can use the same water block, of course these days a GTX480 water block is an import from Europe only, I'm doing doing some research on this before I buy. Ordinary GTX560 Ti 448 Reference cards might use a 570 block, as I've seen no 560 water blocks, outside of the watercool brand and watercool makes 2 types, fancy and plain, but there is the question of are these blocks compatible with the Aquacomputer 7 slot Twinconnect manifold or not? I've emailed aquatuning.us to see if they can find out or even know.
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Message 1204464 - Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 5:20:01 UTC

My 460 is at 75.3, I have it overclocked to 800/1600.

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Message 1204467 - Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 5:29:15 UTC - in response to Message 1204458.  


and I suspend gpu crunching when watching a dvd.


really ? i dont suspend when i watch a movie, nor i do when i play end games ^^



Well, DoH, it's a 480! :)


But, besides that, I have severe eye problems. Picture lag/stuttering makes my eyes hurt and then I will get a headache if I don't shut my eyes to rest them.

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Message 1204470 - Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 5:40:04 UTC - in response to Message 1204464.  

My 460 is at 75.3, I have it overclocked to 800/1600.


I'm at 850/1700 now with 4008 on the memory and just 70% fan for ~60c.

My core/shaders have been higher, but Spring hath Sprung around here, it seems...getting warmer...


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Message 1204471 - Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 5:46:36 UTC - in response to Message 1204464.  
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My 460 is at 75.3, I have it overclocked to 800/1600.

According to MSI Afterburner the Memory is at 2200MHz...

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Message 1204473 - Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 5:52:13 UTC - in response to Message 1204471.  
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It's "Lying" to you.

That's QUAD pumped memory...it's really running at the equivalent of 4400 MHZ.

Different programs display the speed differently. Evga's Precision displays my memory speed as (corrected...) 2004 MHZ. I have to x2 that.

(edited: Well, something I was looking at showed memory at 1002...it wasn't eVGA's Precision..my mistake.)


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Message 1204474 - Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 6:04:26 UTC - in response to Message 1204473.  

It's "Lying" to you.

That's QUAD pumped memory...it's really running at the equivalent of 4400 MHZ.

Different programs display the speed differently. Evga's Precision displays my memory speed as 1002 MHZ. I have to x4 that.


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Didn't know that, still it works pretty good, quad or not.
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Message 1204475 - Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 6:11:55 UTC - in response to Message 1204474.  

It's "Lying" to you.

That's QUAD pumped memory...it's really running at the equivalent of 4400 MHZ.

Different programs display the speed differently. Evga's Precision displays my memory speed as 1002 MHZ. I have to x4 that.


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Didn't know that, still it works pretty good, quad or not.



Sorry Victor..it was GPU-Z that showed the 1002 MHZ memory speed. I corrected my previous entry.

It works basically the same way motherboard memory does; a 400 MHZ clock gets a 1600 speed rating...

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Message 1204478 - Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 6:30:45 UTC - in response to Message 1204475.  

It's "Lying" to you.

That's QUAD pumped memory...it's really running at the equivalent of 4400 MHZ.

Different programs display the speed differently. Evga's Precision displays my memory speed as 1002 MHZ. I have to x4 that.


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Didn't know that, still it works pretty good, quad or not.



Sorry Victor..it was GPU-Z that showed the 1002 MHZ memory speed. I corrected my previous entry.

It works basically the same way motherboard memory does; a 400 MHZ clock gets a 1600 speed rating...

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That's ok. Well now the gpu is at 797MHz and the Shaders are at 1594MHz(1451MHz is stock)...
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Message 1204479 - Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 6:43:48 UTC

Tried to go to 2300MHz from 2200MHz, I know it's 4400MHz/4600MHz, anyway the ram I think is as far as I can safely push the bandwidth as 4600MHz crashed the driver, thankfully I had 4400 saved and not 4600.
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Message 1204531 - Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 11:59:35 UTC - in response to Message 1204457.  


I don't remember what blog/forum I was reading, but that was the gist of the idea - the better wafer/chips would go into the premium cards, the x80's and x90's...while the regular cards like x60's would get the just ok wafers/chips.


Do any of the forums say how you can read these values either from the hardware or via NVAPI? I would like to make SIV (http://rh-software.com/) report them. I have the NDA NVAPI and that does not seem to be able to do this.
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