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Message 1198124 - Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 4:01:48 UTC - in response to Message 1197942.  

That's the same one I've been watching, but wasn't bidding on it. They guys feedback score isn't very good. Keep us posted on how the new card does when you get it.
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Message 1198130 - Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 4:39:47 UTC - in response to Message 1198124.  
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That's the same one I've been watching, but wasn't bidding on it. They guys feedback score isn't very good. Keep us posted on how the new card does when you get it.

Ebay has My back covered, If it never arrives I get all that I spent back, the Seller, that I don't know, Banishment maybe. The card can be found elsewhere used for $301.90. Oh and the SLI interface on the 2WIN card? It doesn't work as the gpus don't support Quad-SLI and so it's disabled. Not a problem, will do.


Top: EVGA GTX590 Classified, Bottom: EVGA GTX460 2WIN.
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Message 1198171 - Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 10:38:58 UTC - in response to Message 1197824.  

Hi,
Yeah, looked in my local radio shack equiv for 68 ohm resistors.. like trying to find a needle in a haystack, gonna have to go there in person and see I guess:-/
Strange thing is on 1 rig under Win7 2 cards are seen and drivers loaded,
on the other no such luck under either vista or win7..
Maybe its also a bios thing, newer mobo in the rig that sees both cards..who knows?

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Message 1198236 - Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 14:11:57 UTC - in response to Message 1198171.  

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Yeah, looked in my local radio shack equiv for 68 ohm resistors.. like trying to find a needle in a haystack, gonna have to go there in person and see I guess:-/
Strange thing is on 1 rig under Win7 2 cards are seen and drivers loaded,
on the other no such luck under either vista or win7..
Maybe its also a bios thing, newer mobo in the rig that sees both cards..who knows?

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Resistors between 50 and 150 Ohms will do just fine, I have 68 Ohm in one adapter and 100 Ohm in another, the OS doesn't know the difference, nor does it matter, so if You can't find 68, there's a lot more between 50 and 150 to choose from.
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Message 1198268 - Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 16:28:06 UTC - in response to Message 1198130.  

Wow, the two cards look pretty much the same to me.
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Message 1198274 - Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 16:41:16 UTC - in response to Message 1198268.  

Wow, the two cards look pretty much the same to me.

Yeah, almost, one has ram on both sides of the card and only has 2GB, the other has 3GB and i have no idea if there is ram on the other side of the card on the 590, but yeah with some adjustment on the part of a water block design by a manufacturer, one could water cool the 2WIN card, but don't try and use any of the 590 blocks as the won't fit and none of the holes would line up. But one block maker as mentioned earlier said they'd make some if people who own EVGA GTX460 2WIN cards ask for them, they just need enough Demand to Supply the blocks to customers.
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Message 1198329 - Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 23:48:15 UTC

they just need enough Demand to Supply the blocks to customers


I'd get out a block of the appropriate metal, fire up my Bridgeport and in a little while have it made. Need it? Machine it.

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Message 1198341 - Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 0:29:30 UTC - in response to Message 1198236.  

Ok:-)
I was gonna do the old double act if they didnt have any 68's..
2x136 ohm in paralel works out to just under 68 by a very small fraction depending on tolerances.

If I'm gonna havta walk over there to sort out what I need then I may as well get a couple of 'd' plugs & shrouds as well and make a unit that will plug driectly into a 15 'D' socket on either the GPU card or the IGP on a mobo.

Been a while since I did any soldering:-) But thats a bit like riding the proverbial bike:-)

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Message 1198357 - Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 1:26:53 UTC - in response to Message 1198341.  
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Ok:-)
I was gonna do the old double act if they didnt have any 68's..
2x136 ohm in paralel works out to just under 68 by a very small fraction depending on tolerances.

If I'm gonna havta walk over there to sort out what I need then I may as well get a couple of 'd' plugs & shrouds as well and make a unit that will plug driectly into a 15 'D' socket on either the GPU card or the IGP on a mobo.

Been a while since I did any soldering:-) But thats a bit like riding the proverbial bike:-)

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Why solder?

Just do what I did, get some wire cutters, snip off the extra wire, fold one leg over first then insert, see how much is not needed and cut off the excess wire, then reinsert, yer done. These are all 5% tolerance resistors, one per pair of holes only.
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Message 1198385 - Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 3:01:22 UTC

I thought I'd post this here, MW's new OpenCL app likes 290.53 and doesn't like 275.50, of course S@H on the 200 series gpus(295 & 285) likes the 275.50 and doesn't like the 290.53 for some reason...

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Message 1198399 - Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 4:01:37 UTC

275.xx is CUDA 3.2 while 290.xx is CUDA 4.1.

Fermi does better on 4.1 while pre-fermi does better on 3.2.

At least SETI wise.

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Message 1198402 - Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 4:24:37 UTC - in response to Message 1198399.  

275.xx is CUDA 3.2 while 290.xx is CUDA 4.1.

Fermi does better on 4.1 while pre-fermi does better on 3.2.

At least SETI wise.

Yeah I'd already thought that was it, but it is nice to have confirmation, I'm still waiting on the change over to happen, then I'll go back to 290.53, until then I'll stick with 275.50, I'm just being practical here.
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Message 1198429 - Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 7:30:09 UTC - in response to Message 1198357.  

Well, if I make up a couple of dedicated units, using 'D' connectors the resistors will be 'inside' the shrouds, and I can transfer them from 1 rig to another when I'm tweaking stuff without having the resistors go adrift during the process:-)

I 'Know' exactly what will happen if I just use a couple of 'convertors' and push the resistors into the holes, when I shift them around I can 'guarantee' one or more resistors will go adrift and I'll have to spend time feeling around on the carpet to try and find them again..

Past experience has taught me that Murphy's 3rd ALLWAYS applies..

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Message 1198454 - Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 10:00:24 UTC - in response to Message 1198341.  

Ok:-)
I was gonna do the old double act if they didnt have any 68's..
2x136 ohm in paralel works out to just under 68 by a very small fraction depending on tolerances.


I just ordered http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/75R-METAL-FILM-RESISTORS-0-6-Watt-1-Pack-99-/390366196138?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item5ae3a371aa. Just using one is far easier as you can just plug them into a DVI-to-VGA converter.
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Message 1198804 - Posted: 23 Feb 2012, 15:06:27 UTC

Its crazy time here again:-)

For some reason known only to the Weather Gods the temp outside my place has just gone to 15c from about 0-4c.. And the GPU temps rose from the mid 65C ish to the 70c range dispite using Afterburner to ramp up the onboard fans:-/

However as a long time horder of odd's and end's I happen to have 2 100mm mains powered fans that came of an old DRS500 mini computer..
Case side removed, mains fan proped up pointing at the GPU's and wham temps down to 54c & 61c respectivly:-)

Seems the odd bit of bodging works now and then..
That old DRS500 was obsolete in the early 90's:-) But its parts live on!!!!

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Message 1198832 - Posted: 23 Feb 2012, 16:28:52 UTC - in response to Message 1198813.  

mines at 3930 =100% thats both of them...

but even though the temp o/s has gone up another 1c and my ambient temp inside is a fair bit higher than that the GPU's are at 52c & 64C:-) I'd like to keep em below 70c as much as possible.

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Message 1198848 - Posted: 23 Feb 2012, 17:07:57 UTC - in response to Message 1198837.  

Pass, no idea of a GPU fan lifetime, but high temps cause problems:-/
Was getting errors on my GTX560 at over 70c

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Message 1198854 - Posted: 23 Feb 2012, 17:12:20 UTC - in response to Message 1198848.  

Pass, no idea of a GPU fan lifetime, but high temps cause problems:-/
Was getting errors on my GTX560 at over 70c

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I know there have been a few reports of GPU fan failures, but I have not seen one yet. I have had some cards fail outright. All fans locked on 100% here.
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Message 1198862 - Posted: 23 Feb 2012, 17:31:43 UTC - in response to Message 1198854.  


I know there have been a few reports of GPU fan failures, but I have not seen one yet. I have had some cards fail outright. All fans locked on 100% here.

I had to RMA my Gigabyte OC GTX 460 last month because the fan stopped working. Then there's the infamous brittle-bladed Palit GTX 460 that's now sitting fanless in forced air flow in our departmental server.
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Message 1199019 - Posted: 23 Feb 2012, 22:10:41 UTC

I give my fans an `oil change` about once a year,
Depending on the size, one or two drops of 5w (3 in one oil, for those in the UK)
They last a lot longer before the bush wears out,
If its got actual ball bearings they are a pain to get the oil into but it can be done.
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