Jeez, with those last 4 posts, that seems to be the whole Scottish Parliament on here.....

....better let them have their independence, thry might just do a better job than Westminister.....

Doeeee!! Sirius, they are the same as though's types in Westminister, how can they then do a better job?....
...Oi!!, you been sniffing at the Potcheen then, bit mean of you, pass the bottle around MATE!!, think of yur' friends....

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The Kite Fliers

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

Doeeee!! Sirius, they are the same as though's types in Westminister, how can they then do a better job?....
...Oi!!, you been sniffing at the Potcheen then, bit mean of you, pass the bottle around MATE!!, think of yur' friends....

Damn, been found out too quick...sorrreeeeee...on the last glass now.....will have to distill some more later.....

(Pssst, don't tell the Jocks)

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Damn, been found out too quick...sorrreeeeee...on the last glass now.....will have to distill some more later.....

(Pssst, don't tell the Jocks)

Yer OK then but just in case you've forgotten how to make it I have supplied
a diagram below, only the best spuds please, don't wont no rubbish stuff going in...Murphy's will be OK.

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The Kite Fliers

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

Damn, been found out too quick...sorrreeeeee...on the last glass now.....will have to distill some more later.....

(Pssst, don't tell the Jocks)

Yer OK then but just in case you've forgotten how to make it I have supplied
a diagram below, only the best spuds please, don't wont no rubbish stuff going in...Murphy's will be OK.

I'm a traitor to the cause then...I prefer King Edward's.....

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Damn, been found out too quick...sorrreeeeee...on the last glass now.....will have to distill some more later.....

(Pssst, don't tell the Jocks)

Yer OK then but just in case you've forgotten how to make it I have supplied
a diagram below, only the best spuds please, don't wont no rubbish stuff going in...Murphy's will be OK.

I'm a traitor to the cause then...I prefer King Edward's.....

OK, settle for King Eddies then but don't cheat by mixing in any Jersey Royals.

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The Kite Fliers

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

I took a look around to find out about Scottish business sales to the rest of UK and to the rest of the world. All I could find was a note to say "It was not possible as many Scottish businesses were part of UK businesses."

That wasn't a surprise as the last company I worked for has 9 UK addresses, 7 in England and 2 in Scotland. But most people would not know that as the English offices all work under one name while the Scottish offices each have different names.

A report reported by the BBC Scottish independence: Oil fund 'raises budget questions' suggests Mr Salmond's idea needs a lot more thinking and a better financial climate before implementing, if ever.

trough as the Scotish trough will be meager pickings!

The "trough" factor?.....If it's beneficial for Brussels to have Scotland
as an Independent state, separated from the UK, then Brussels will fill
this trough for them. They did it this way to gain the Croatia vote and
"trough filling" is an expertise Brussels is!! rather good at.

Five quid on the bet, got to be better odds of winning than if you laid
it out on the lottery.

I get better odds on the lottery



One of many.............................

Murphy's law, "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong"....Sirius put's
his lottery numbers up on Seti and 250,000 Uk seti members copy his numbers.
Result, 250,000 lottery players share in the Saturdays nights jackpot payout...
....each gets £10.

So this upsets that applecart then....

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So this upsets that applecart then....

Murphy's second plank's law



"B" is the spectral radiance, and since you failed to radiate your lottery numbers
over the seti web site so Murphy's law broke down. Hence the result being the
reciprocation of the true event had you, first, radiated your numbers prior to the draw.

Well, Murphy knows what I mean?.....Actually, Murphy gave this reciprocation
factor another name, "Sods Law"....

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The Kite Fliers

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

Well, Murphy knows what I mean?.....Actually, Murphy gave this reciprocation
factor another name, "Sods Law"....

Sorry, that law is off

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flaming balloons

Salmond has a longer game rising from the 2014 referendum date. He believes he can swing it, and if he does I think that will colour his SNP offer to the Scottish electorate in the following General Election. If he doesn't win a majority for independence, he will use his substantial vote in favour to extract a significant additional devolvement of powers, including personal and business tax rate setting.

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It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues

he will use his substantial vote in favour to extract a significant additional devolvement of powers, including personal and business tax rate setting.

Giving Scotland extra powers to this degree means having independence in-all but by name. This power grabbing exercise will go on and on in Scotland and will only stop if either they are given full independence or the Scottish government was to collapse. If the referendum vote goes against Salmond then this should be enough of a clout for the UK government to decline any future demands Salmond may make. Demands for Scottish independence will only proceed whilst there is viable quantities of oil in the North Sea. Once the oil has gone so will the demand for independence wain with it. The UK government just needs to drag things out long enough enabling them to thwart the SNP in it's quest. If the UK government has not the stomach to do battle with Salmond then their best off promoting the idea of Independence for Scotland in hopes of this vote going Salmonds way. Either then we loose Scotland for ever or the independence exercise fails in time hence they rejoin the Union for good back under one UK government again.

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The Kite Fliers

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

If I understand oil things right, the new deep water finds have been west of the Shetlands, and in these islands territorial waters.

I believe the Shetland Islanders do not like being ruled from Edinburgh, and, indeed, would prefer to come under Westminster's orbit.

What would happen is Salmond got the independence and the Shetlands came voluntarily back to the UK,

No oil for Salmond?

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It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues

If I understand oil things right, the new deep water finds have been west of the Shetlands, and in these islands territorial waters.

I believe the Shetland Islanders do not like being ruled from Edinburgh, and, indeed, would prefer to come under Westminster's orbit.

What would happen is Salmond got the independence and the Shetlands came voluntarily back to the UK,

No oil for Salmond?

Most probably do a Kirchner and ban any boats sailing to or from those Isles.
If you look at Salmonds face you notice a gap between his upper lip and his philtrum.
Just ideal for growning a wee rectangular "black" moustache.....just a wee-wee joke....

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The Kite Fliers

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

Just curious has UK ever elected Scotish or Irish or Welsh prime minister for the whole UK? Well since those 3 are kind of their legal federal or union members so there might be some kind of governing privillige things. But I have no idea there is monarchic governance work so it is really a puzzle for some international crowd.

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Mandtugai!

Prime Ministers who were of Scottish origin...

Stuart 1762-1763 (3rd Earl Of Bute)
Hamilton-Gordon 1852-1855 (4th Earl of Aberdeen)
Primrose 1894-1895 (5th Earl of Rosebery)
Balfour 1902-1905
Campbell-Bannerman 1905-1908
Bonar Law 1922-1923
Ramsay MacDonald Jan-Nov 1924
McMillan...1960-1963
Douglas-Home 1963-1964

In 2000 we then had...

Tony Blair....He was born in Scotland
Gordon Brown...Fully Scottish
David Cameron...The Current Prime Minister of Scottish origin.

None seem to have originated from from either Wales or Northern Ireland.

So far the United Kingdom have had 74 prime Ministers,12 of whome came from
Scotland or had direct Scottish ancestry. So the remaining 62 were English with a ratio of 5 to 1 being English this is well below what you would expect since
the population of England sits on a ratio of 11 to 1 against Scotland,Wales and Northern Ireland combined. So mathematically Scotland has had more than it's fair share of prime Ministers in relation to it's population size within the UK.
But who's complaining, no one as far as I'm aware the only unhappy people are the Scots?

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The Kite Fliers

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

So then why Irish extremists were exploding bombs all over London for decades while scots act not too much extremely?? Before the modern legal system functioning they were both legally english colonies I guess (considering welsh is completely absorbed into english). And maybe the colonies treated little differently some how so different reactions from them. It is just distant observer's light conclusion.

Maybe 15 years ago I began to see strange things that in World Football cup I see english flag team then scottish flag team competing probably there is irish flag team was present in case if they were evaluated. All 3 were competing as different international teams.

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Mandtugai!

Just curious has UK ever elected Scotish or Irish or Welsh prime minister for the whole UK? Well since those 3 are kind of their legal federal or union members so there might be some kind of governing privillige things. But I have no idea there is monarchic governance work so it is really a puzzle for some international crowd.

James Callaghan, Irish descent, parents were Irish but he was born in Portsmouth.

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Just curious has UK ever elected Scotish or Irish or Welsh prime minister for the whole UK? Well since those 3 are kind of their legal federal or union members so there might be some kind of governing privillige things. But I have no idea there is monarchic governance work so it is really a puzzle for some international crowd.

James Callaghan, Irish descent, parents were Irish but he was born in Portsmouth.

David Lloyd-George was of Welsh descent and a Welsh speaker.

The Scot most recently elected UK PM was Tony Blair.

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...