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Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Public education has been indoctrinating liberals since the hippie movement of the 60s. Liberalism teaches discrimination is wrong. Wrong in ALL cases. You see, to discriminate is ... Dang dem Libs (that came in with Dewey, about 3-4 decades before the hippy 60s)! I sure hope dem Libs don't mess mah kids up on dat Quadratic Equation ... err, Formula (1). Cuz I done heard you can duhstinguish a difference between 2 real solutions (and wedder they be integers, rationals or irr-LIBBER-asstional), a single real solution (repeated, hens Mikey Keaton "Multiplicity") or 2 complex solutions (eye hates those imaginary nummers!). No how they does it? By using a thingy called a DISCRIMINANT. BTW, the floor needs worshed in here. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
bobby, I hope my Appalachin was close enough to Texan to make sense to you. ;) http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66639&postid=1302370. P.S.-glad to see you finally posted a pic of yourself. It was really hard to believe you resembled Mr. T. As QBert, indeed, I do now hate you because you're sexier than me. |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
bobby, Interesting you bring up the NARW label, wouldn't a belief in absolutes reduce one's ability to discriminate (2nd meaning) and increase the likelihood of discriminating (1st meaning)? I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Government bans calculators from primary maths tests. That I assume will be for England and maybe Wales. This might be a step in the right direction. But personally I would perfer a system based on ability rather than age. But that would lead to streaming and suggesting that, gets politicians and teachers upset. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
I agree with the Government. Calculators are there to save time in complex mathematical calculations. They are not there to replace basic thinking skills and processes. We have a whole generation of kids that simply cannot do simple sums in their head because they have never had to. Teach 'em the basic principles first, then use calculators as a simple tool to save time, and avoid human error. I got my calculator from a dollar store. Damn thing drives me crazy and it usually takes about 3 or 4 goes to get it to give the same answer twice in a row. When doing calculations on the board I find it's often quicker to them sums without it, and I still get the answer quicker than my students who are using calculators. Reality Internet Personality |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Have a customer here waiting for his laptop to be recovered. While waiting, he decided to read the paper. Just as I completed the job, he asked me a question: - "What's a nine letter word for the following clues" Solitary Confinement, in Coventry prehaps? 9 letters were provided, these being: - a,t,o,n,i,i,s,l,o. He spent 15 minutes on this & he's a university student studying law.... My instant reply was Isolation. Modern education....Doh! |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Now here's a problem, according to Time to square up to the roots of our maths problem, there are more than 300,000 students studying degrees that require maths beyond GCSE level; of these, only 125,000 have done a maths A-level. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
And now in the UK 29,000 of 15 and 16 year olds cannot read the exam questions, that's over 5% of the population. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-20346204 |
Scary Capitalist Send message Joined: 21 May 01 Posts: 7404 Credit: 97,085 RAC: 0 |
When a student, or anyone, doesn't progress to the point to where he/she can conduct these computations in their heads it's indicative that they've been deprived of proper education in basic logical thinking. They can use calculators later but raising ignorant people is not doing them favors. Mathematics isn't just useful for math for its own sake. It serves to discipline the mind in general so that that serves them later for so many more tasks and most importantly, for a rational mindset in general in all subjects. Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data! I did NOT authorize this belly writing! |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
It had to happen eventually I suppose, just wondering what the standards would be like if this happens... "Star Trek Schools" |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
For that to happen, with any degree of sucess, then teachers are going to have to get all the students to think and use the technology to find the correct methods and data to answer the questions. That would be a complete change in the education system, at the moment the students are usually spoon fed until they go to university or do a National Certificate/Dipolma. Cannot see it happening soon, but it should, as technology is now changing so fast the teachers cannot know what technology will be available 6 months after the kids leave school. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
That would be a complete change in the education system, at the moment the students are usually spoon fed until they go to university or do a National Certificate/Dipolma. Except that recently, that's in the last 5 years, a lot of FE colleges are now concentrating on, academic "A" level education for University entrants and practical "Apprenticeships" using NVQ's only. i.e. the only IT course can be described as "how to basically use MS office". Which on last checking with my neighbour doesn't even teach how to set up a syle sheet from scratch. She still teaches that at the end of sentence there should be two spaces, and double line break for para break. Several friends of mine have effectively got the boot because the courses they taught, (programming and electronics), were scrapped because they were National based, above the capabilities of the non-university capable entrants. |
John Clark Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 16515 Credit: 4,418,829 RAC: 0 |
For that to happen, with any degree of sucess, then teachers are going to have to get all the students to think and use the technology to find the correct methods and data to answer the questions. I agree with WK that spoon feeding goes on, and technology changes can be kept up with by researching the SOA for that area. It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
I used so many word processors and DTP programs that I forget in which it is style sheets and in which it is templates. It is only now, that I see why I got comments from two teachers saying he was very consistant in his page layout. I taught him to use templates (style sheets) because it makes it easier to automate many items, like putting title, name in header and date, page number and HDD location in the footers. It also helps with left and right pages so that pages can be punched cleanly. And for correspondence automatic insertion of sender addr, date etc, and putting in tags for sendee addr, subject etc. Therefore something that should be taught early, not late in the teaching of WP. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
It had to happen eventually I suppose, just wondering what the standards would be like if this happens... Even better than the above, or is it just a gimmick? Star Trek style classroom |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Maybe help is at hand. Norwegian app aims to make math cool (Reuters) - The startup behind the algebra app that overtook Angry Birds as No. 1 in the Norwegian app store earlier this year aims to replicate that success globally next year with four more mathematics games. For teachers and parents, or anybody wishing to revise their maths the site is http://wewanttoknow.com/ |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Not good news for our US readers. Downward mobility haunts US education Andreas Schleicher, special adviser on education at the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), says the US is now the only major economy in the world where the younger generation is not going to be better educated than the older. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Not good news for our US readers. Teacher Unions fit in where? |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Let’s pay each teacher what they’re worth Dangerous idea, unless it is a move to cut the education budget. Based on the performance as published by the government a large percentage of the teachers would get a pay cut. But as most teachers have to do as they are told, by the government, and not do their best to teach the subject, maybe the best place to start with "paying what they are worth" should start at the top. |
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