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Message 1179512 - Posted: 20 Dec 2011, 11:16:24 UTC
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My interpretation of the Cricket graph is that in the last 12 hours, nearly all computers demanding tasks have reached their limit, and ths traffic is rapidly approaching maintaining completion volume level.

This would leave significant potential bandwidth unused.

If say the limits were raised slowly - say 5/CPU, 20/GPU per chunk - until the new limits are reached (and thr traffic drops again), then raise another chunk, then all caches would grow, and nobody would get left behind.

A valid point has been made for the condition of outage recovery.

Two options might be to:
Do nothing - as long as the outages are reasonably short, saturation stops after half a day or so. Things would be back stability as in the past.
Or:
Make work requests more fair by somehow giving empty caches priority over machines with large (relative) reserves.

Option one is likely easiest...
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Message 1179515 - Posted: 20 Dec 2011, 12:15:20 UTC

Oh look, a couple of days later everything is running smoothly. All have their caches/limits full, upload bandwidth is bored.
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Message 1179527 - Posted: 20 Dec 2011, 13:43:13 UTC
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the crickets aren't maxed out now.


edit: server status shows ok. there is something wrong

edit2: oops it's tuesday.
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Message 1179562 - Posted: 20 Dec 2011, 15:27:34 UTC - in response to Message 1179527.  

the crickets aren't maxed out now.


edit: server status shows ok. there is something wrong

edit2: oops it's tuesday.


Indeed. Bandwidth consumption is down, large majority have reached their cache limits. Just in time for the Tuesday outage where we will now go 6 days maxed out until the eve of the next maintenance day.
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record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up)
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Message 1179566 - Posted: 20 Dec 2011, 15:32:27 UTC - in response to Message 1179562.  

the crickets aren't maxed out now.


edit: server status shows ok. there is something wrong

edit2: oops it's tuesday.


Indeed. Bandwidth consumption is down, large majority have reached their cache limits. Just in time for the Tuesday outage where we will now go 6 days maxed out until the eve of the next maintenance day.

I wonder how many Boinc 6.12.x hosts still have downloads backed off?

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Message 1179567 - Posted: 20 Dec 2011, 15:38:00 UTC - in response to Message 1179512.  

My interpretation of the Cricket graph is that in the last 12 hours, nearly all computers demanding tasks have reached their limit, and ths traffic is rapidly approaching maintaining completion volume level.

This would leave significant potential bandwidth unused.

My interpretation of the Cricket graphs is that something went seriously wrong overnight again. I wish you were right, but I just don't believe it.

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Message 1179571 - Posted: 20 Dec 2011, 16:09:58 UTC - in response to Message 1179567.  

My interpretation of the Cricket graph is that in the last 12 hours, nearly all computers demanding tasks have reached their limit, and ths traffic is rapidly approaching maintaining completion volume level.

This would leave significant potential bandwidth unused.

My interpretation of the Cricket graphs is that something went seriously wrong overnight again. I wish you were right, but I just don't believe it.


LOL, sadly thats probably the best interpretation...

But Ive seen something else here, in the last days Ive got some very long MB tasks whose estimated times were very short.
I know that the estimations are far from perfect but this particular tasks were taking up to 4 times more than the estimation. This happened on all my rigs in both CPU and GPU tasks
Im using flops tags and ussually my DCF is kept between 1.4 and 0.6, but due to this extremely bad estimated tasks the DCF rised above 4 and then all my rigs stopped to ask work... also as the DCF goes down very slowly Its taking long to recover and when the value goes to something more normal it finds another of those tasks and everything starts again...

Do somebody else noticed this, now or in the past?



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Message 1179588 - Posted: 20 Dec 2011, 21:45:53 UTC - in response to Message 1179566.  

the crickets aren't maxed out now.


edit: server status shows ok. there is something wrong

edit2: oops it's tuesday.


Indeed. Bandwidth consumption is down, large majority have reached their cache limits. Just in time for the Tuesday outage where we will now go 6 days maxed out until the eve of the next maintenance day.

I wonder how many Boinc 6.12.x hosts still have downloads backed off?

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Probably all of 'em, lol.

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Message 1179591 - Posted: 20 Dec 2011, 21:58:53 UTC - in response to Message 1179588.  
Last modified: 20 Dec 2011, 22:01:04 UTC

I wonder how many Boinc 6.12.x hosts still have downloads backed off?

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Probably all of 'em, lol.


LoL, if the client types connection page is working I see none ;):

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Message 1179601 - Posted: 20 Dec 2011, 22:29:27 UTC - in response to Message 1179588.  

the crickets aren't maxed out now.


edit: server status shows ok. there is something wrong

edit2: oops it's tuesday.


Indeed. Bandwidth consumption is down, large majority have reached their cache limits. Just in time for the Tuesday outage where we will now go 6 days maxed out until the eve of the next maintenance day.

I wonder how many Boinc 6.12.x hosts still have downloads backed off?

Claggy

Probably all of 'em, lol.


Not mine, both of them are running fine.

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Message 1179605 - Posted: 20 Dec 2011, 22:53:37 UTC - in response to Message 1179591.  

LoL, if the client types connection page is working I see none ;)

Probably, it's not working:
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I presume you omitted that line intentionally ;-)

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Message 1179668 - Posted: 21 Dec 2011, 7:22:58 UTC - in response to Message 1179574.  

I really want to whine about something, but after a full days work, I just can't find the energy to do it.

Maybe later, after the weekly outage.

LOL


Hey buddy, AP WUs are available just now! Catch them all! :-)
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Message 1179694 - Posted: 21 Dec 2011, 12:45:27 UTC - in response to Message 1179693.  



Yeah I noticed that, but at my dismay I have also found that there seems to be others trying to steal my AP's. :-)


No doubt, they are Grinches :))
Not me at any rate, as I promised before, I am MB-only cruncher for now and keep my AP WUs for you :-)

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Message 1179854 - Posted: 21 Dec 2011, 22:49:18 UTC

I don't know about anybody else, but the astropulses are just flying through the bandwidth today. Boinc asketh, Boinc getteth thy tasks, often more than one at a time!

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Message 1179858 - Posted: 21 Dec 2011, 23:00:14 UTC

I´m trying since 12 hours.
Got none so far.


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Message 1179866 - Posted: 21 Dec 2011, 23:30:03 UTC - in response to Message 1179862.  
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I´m trying since 12 hours.
Got none so far.



Sometimes I believe that there is some strange algorithm governing who gets and who doesn't get APs.

I have APs now to last me well into the next year, and if I weren't such a greedy bastard, I would stop asking for them now. :-)

Sometimes it seems like that is happening, splitters online and doing their job, yet I get zilch. My Seti astropulse task (rain) dance doesn't seem to help either :)
But today... it's worked :)

*EDIT:When I say zilch, I mean nothing the entire time the splitters are active and I'm around to hammer the retry button. All I get is no tasks available and so on/EDIT*

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Message 1179867 - Posted: 21 Dec 2011, 23:35:36 UTC - in response to Message 1179866.  

Well all I can add here is that my 3 rigs are still bouncing on the limits as usual though I do have 99 Astropulses stockpiled.

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Message 1179874 - Posted: 22 Dec 2011, 0:04:31 UTC - in response to Message 1179862.  
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I´m trying since 12 hours.
Got none so far.



Sometimes I believe that there is some strange algorithm governing who gets and who doesn't get APs.

I have APs now to last me well into the next year, and if I weren't such a greedy bastard, I would stop asking for them now. :-)


True.
When i look at my wingmen sometimes i´m questioning.
It seems the slowest hosts gets the most APs.
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Message 1179876 - Posted: 22 Dec 2011, 0:15:14 UTC - in response to Message 1179867.  
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AstroPulse are very rare, I've seen 2 in the last months.
Lots of shorties or AR=/;> 1.0 and higher. Running 3 hosts atm. even my LT, runs BOINC 6.12.34; x86 and SSE3 CPU optimized LUNATICs app..

And the I7-2600, does better/faster with SSE3 then SSSE3, HT=ON.
I also run Rosetta, EINSTEIN, PrimeGrid, wich has send an absurt amount of work.
I've set it to N.N.T.! Rosetta is memory hungry, 4 R and 4 SETI MB, also 1
on each ATI 5870. This conbination uses 7.4GByte RAM!

And DLoads appear to be running smoother, but also can very quickly collapse or stall.
Also work from SETI Bêta, ehh that's another task.

Looking at the Date of the WUs, we could or should be able to process In Real Time, the Bandwidth issue isn't solved, yet.

And the DATA from Arecibo to Berkeley, hard drives shipt to Berkeley.
You're going to need a (WLAN+)transmittor, sending the DATA to Berkeley.......
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Message 1179880 - Posted: 22 Dec 2011, 1:11:00 UTC
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Its so funny.
I got 2 APs in 4 weeks.
Done in less than an hour.
20/30 and 30/30.

I´m really a lucky guy.
With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.
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