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Message 1180659 - Posted: 25 Dec 2011, 17:29:51 UTC

Does the project play favorites? Seems some people have no trouble getting WU's while others get nothing.
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Message 1180660 - Posted: 25 Dec 2011, 17:47:27 UTC
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I doubt that SETI is playing favorites.

But on the other hand I have not seen anyone attempt to explain why different host computers can get all the work they want and others get nothing. Since the bandwidth is maxed out anyway there seems to be no interest in persuing this problem.
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Message 1180662 - Posted: 25 Dec 2011, 17:55:27 UTC - in response to Message 1180660.  

I doubt that SETI is playing favorites.

But on the other hand I have not seen anyone attempt to explain why different host computers can get all the work they want and others get nothing. Since the bandwidth is maxed out anyway there seems to be no interest in persuing this problem.

I don't think there is anything other than random chance in what a given work request by any single host will be issued. Faster rigs will of course seem to come out on the short end of things because they crunch up what they do get faster than a rig that might be satisfied in a single work request.
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Message 1180664 - Posted: 25 Dec 2011, 18:12:00 UTC

Even easier if the GPU runs VLARs as well.

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Message 1180753 - Posted: 26 Dec 2011, 8:11:46 UTC
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Yeah, the Crickets are looking a little sick, and not many presents being offered by the scheduler lately. My top rig got 1 task in the last hour or so of work requests.

Guess we'll just have to get along until the holiday is over and somebody can set things aright in the server closet again.
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Message 1180788 - Posted: 26 Dec 2011, 16:55:46 UTC

Not seeing enough GPU work here, but to cut a long story short I've come back home to have to do a BIOS reset & BOINC has defaulted to giving me EAH work which I did not want at ths time.
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Message 1180804 - Posted: 26 Dec 2011, 17:56:31 UTC

Yeah, the Crickets are looking a little sick, and not many presents being offered by the scheduler lately. My top rig got 1 task in the last hour or so of work requests.


Is the above Whinning; Complaining; Griping; Panic, or Constructive Criticism from A Loyalist?

Just Wondering?

My SETI crunching is smooth sailing. It is suspended at the moment. So No Worries Mate.

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Message 1180807 - Posted: 26 Dec 2011, 18:13:56 UTC - in response to Message 1180804.  

Yeah, the Crickets are looking a little sick, and not many presents being offered by the scheduler lately. My top rig got 1 task in the last hour or so of work requests.


Is the above Whinning; Complaining; Griping; Panic, or Constructive Criticism from A Loyalist?

Just Wondering?

My SETI crunching is smooth sailing. It is suspended at the moment. So No Worries Mate.

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Just observations from an obvious Seti supporter.
You'll know when I get to whining, complaining, griping, or panicking....LOL.

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Message 1180833 - Posted: 26 Dec 2011, 22:14:34 UTC
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So I wasn't sure where to try to ask for something to happen with this one particular WU.. but a lot of people read this thread.

I have this one that has been "stuck" for a while. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=784726080

_0 missed the deadline, so it got sent to me, and they completed and reported before I did, so _0 and _1 got validated and credit granted, while I'm still "pending." Been there since August.

I realize that I probably won't get credit for it, which sucks, but I would like it to go away.
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Message 1180840 - Posted: 26 Dec 2011, 22:29:59 UTC - in response to Message 1180833.  

So I wasn't sure where to try to ask for something to happen with this one particular WU.. but a lot of people read this thread.

I have this one that has been "stuck" for a while. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=784726080

_0 missed the deadline, so it got sent to me, and they completed and reported before I did, so _0 and _1 got validated and credit granted, while I'm still "pending." Been there since August.

I realize that I probably won't get credit for it, which sucks, but I would like it to go away.


There are a couple of units flying around like this.
The validator has to get kicked on it or manually validated.
Nothing you can do.

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Message 1180843 - Posted: 26 Dec 2011, 22:40:47 UTC - in response to Message 1180840.  

I've got a workunit on my results page that has been there almost 2 years.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=565654746
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Message 1180845 - Posted: 26 Dec 2011, 22:49:02 UTC - in response to Message 1180843.  

I've got a workunit on my results page that has been there almost 2 years.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=565654746


This one is different.
All got credits so it only has to get purged and assimilated.

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Message 1180910 - Posted: 27 Dec 2011, 7:27:56 UTC - in response to Message 1180845.  


Something's certainly borked.
Most requests for work result in "Project has no tasks available" messages.
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Message 1180912 - Posted: 27 Dec 2011, 7:37:10 UTC - in response to Message 1180910.  


Something's certainly borked.
Most requests for work result in "Project has no tasks available" messages.

Yeah, the scheduler seems to be a bit tangled up.
But, across 8 rigs, I seem to be holding fairly steady for the last few hours.
Not gaining much, but getting just enough work to keep going.
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Message 1180920 - Posted: 27 Dec 2011, 9:28:02 UTC - in response to Message 1180912.  


And now uploads appear to becomming rather iffy.
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Message 1180947 - Posted: 27 Dec 2011, 15:30:00 UTC

Regarding stuck WUs that have been around for a long period of time..

Do those have to be manually kicked by one of the staff? I know it can be a painful and cumbersome task. I was thinking maybe we could make a thread for listing as many as can be found, and maybe then, some sort of shell script can be made up once there's a list of taskIDs?
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Message 1180953 - Posted: 27 Dec 2011, 16:00:50 UTC

"I doubt that SETI is playing favorites.

But on the other hand I have not seen anyone attempt to explain why different host computers can get all the work they want and others get nothing. Since the bandwidth is maxed out anyway there seems to be no interest in persuing this problem."
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Thats what I thought,,,that they would send out work randomly. But now I wonder. Seems the same people over and over get all they want while others can't get so much as one WU.
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Message 1180958 - Posted: 27 Dec 2011, 17:04:15 UTC - in response to Message 1180953.  

I doubt that SETI is playing favorites.

But on the other hand I have not seen anyone attempt to explain why different host computers can get all the work they want and others get nothing. Since the bandwidth is maxed out anyway there seems to be no interest in persuing this problem.

Thats what I thought,,,that they would send out work randomly. But now I wonder. Seems the same people over and over get all they want while others can't get so much as one WU.

I've seen the same thing on my own network (not related to the HE issues). Single-core machine had no problem building a 10-day cache while the [at the time] quad-core machine was struggling to keep 2-3 days of cache. I know I'm not the only one that sees/saw things like that.
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Message 1180961 - Posted: 27 Dec 2011, 17:29:06 UTC - in response to Message 1180958.  
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I doubt that SETI is playing favorites.

But on the other hand I have not seen anyone attempt to explain why different host computers can get all the work they want and others get nothing. Since the bandwidth is maxed out anyway there seems to be no interest in persuing this problem.

Thats what I thought,,,that they would send out work randomly. But now I wonder. Seems the same people over and over get all they want while others can't get so much as one WU.

I've seen the same thing on my own network (not related to the HE issues). Single-core machine had no problem building a 10-day cache while the [at the time] quad-core machine was struggling to keep 2-3 days of cache. I know I'm not the only one that sees/saw things like that.

What is so odd about that? All things being equal, the quad core is going to do 4 times the amount of work than the single core would. So would have to get and successfully download 4 times the amount of work just to stay even, much less build it's cache. So when up/download and work requests are not flowing well, it's going to be the first one to feel the pain.
Same goes for GPU hosting rigs....the faster they are right now, the worse off they are.

What makes it really tough on the big rigs is that when things are working OK, as in between shorty storms, they are not now allowed to build a large enough cache to carry them through the times when comms tighten up.

That's what really sux for us right now.
"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

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Message 1180964 - Posted: 27 Dec 2011, 17:47:02 UTC - in response to Message 1180961.  


Same goes for GPU hosting rigs....the faster they are right now, the worse off they are.

What makes it really tough on the big rigs is that when things are working OK, as in between shorty storms, they are not now allowed to build a large enough cache to carry them through the times when comms tighten up.

That's what really sux for us right now.



You said it bro...
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