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Message 1158912 - Posted: 5 Oct 2011, 1:37:32 UTC - in response to Message 1158223.  

Well, I would say the comments from what I read just now on that link are
condescending and sexist.

"Calm down dear" would be enough to turn my 49% sweetheart side off immediately.
And calling her "Frustrated" is an implication of sexually frustrated, and completely inappropriate.

My response if I had been at the receiving end of those statements... well that is one of many reasons why I shall never be in politics.

If in fact those were attempts at humor, than it is an epic failure. I suspect the remarks were intended to be degrading and hit their mark.
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Message 1158921 - Posted: 5 Oct 2011, 2:44:41 UTC - in response to Message 1158912.  

One can imply anything one wants from statements.

I was talking with a few female co workers, both have accents, when one was talking about how she loved peanuts. The only thing is that peanuts didn't sound like peanuts. So we spent an hour laughing about how she LOooooOOooove Peanuts.
In reality if someone had an axe to grind they could have cried harassment. The reality is that some people are always going to be hyper vigilant about what is said.

I worked with a woman that called a child(2 year old) the cutest little monkey. a tickle and smiles were given from the child mother and co worker. The Mother and child happened to be black. The coworker not so much. The only person that was offended was another co worker who happens to be black, that was constantly stirring the pot. Needless to say the poor coworker was read the riot act by HR for nothing more than telling a little kid they were cute.

THat being said, sensitive to others and being a jerk about some innocent off the cuff statement is crap. I wouldn't apologize. Words cut both ways, did he mean any offense? was he being funny? Are woman so insecure about their bodies that a man saying the word frustrated only means one thing. I beg pardon but I think I'll just grunt from now on as to not offend anyone. Pardon the hand jesture


bet you thought it was something nasty. I guess it depends on how we choose to see the world isn't it. I look at a cloud and see the Washington monument. the lady next to me thinks I'm being lewd.


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Message 1158959 - Posted: 5 Oct 2011, 6:13:13 UTC

Much like the Hank Williams Jr. Comment.

I read the comment in text, and.. Honestly I thought it was a comment on the polarized opposites being mis-interpreted. Then I saw the faux interview in full. He made it QUITE clear it was intended as offensive in the worst possible way.

And since I do not read sign language, I will leave that to someone who does
as to whether that is offensive or not.

And yes referring to dark skinned as monkeys is extremely offensive. If an unknowing blunder, a profuse apology was in order. If knowingly done,
termination would have been appropriate.


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Message 1159031 - Posted: 5 Oct 2011, 12:10:21 UTC - in response to Message 1158959.  

and yet you still miss the point. I don't think that someone above the age of 6 needs to have explained the meaning of tone in a conversation. When a tone suggests maternal admiration one can conclude no intent to harm or show malice. If one were to simply write the words down without the users tone one could see a harmful statement. This also leads me to believe that people aren't just musically tone deaf. they seem to be emotionally or intentionally tone deaf.

In fact, much like the N word, it gets annoying when one race can blatantly say a word and have it mean one thing but quite another when a person of another race says it.

Lets also not forget that the person offended must in some way think the offense is in some part true. Heck I've been called honkie, cracker, and all sorts of racially insensitive names. I'm mature enough to laugh at the individual saying it because it's silly to allow someone else to have power over me with just a word.


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Message 1159037 - Posted: 5 Oct 2011, 12:30:06 UTC - in response to Message 1158912.  
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Well, I would say the comments from what I read just now on that link are
condescending and sexist.

"Calm down dear" would be enough to turn my 49% sweetheart side off immediately.
And calling her "Frustrated" is an implication of sexually frustrated, and completely inappropriate.

My response if I had been at the receiving end of those statements... well that is one of many reasons why I shall never be in politics.

If in fact those were attempts at humor, than it is an epic failure. I suspect the remarks were intended to be degrading and hit their mark.


Oh the cut and thrust of politics...If both Nadine and Angela posses any kind of metal then Cameron's remarks will not have hurt or frustrated them. On the contrary, they would each know that these types of remarks were the kind that Margaret Thatcher fed on. She knew that if she could feed off these remarks then one day she would be able to swallow up the men who uttered them....and she did.
Yes, I must confess that us men do tend to be sexist, good ol' testosterone, but when we come across a woman who flicks these sexist remarks away off her like specks of dust on her coat then there goes a woman who men end up admiring greatly....that's men for you!
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Message 1159042 - Posted: 5 Oct 2011, 12:57:51 UTC

If an employee does not like the way in which a complaint to HR was dealt with, they can find another employer. For an MP, there is no HR. That Cameron thought condescending and patronizing language was appropriate for the House shows how out of touch he his with modern workplaces. The comment reminded me of a cartoon from the 80s, "There's no sexism in this union, love", which, I believe, was intended to be ironic. Would the reactions of some have been different if it had been Blair or Brown that had made the statements?
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1159044 - Posted: 5 Oct 2011, 13:15:01 UTC - in response to Message 1159042.  

If an employee does not like the way in which a complaint to HR was dealt with, they can find another employer. For an MP, there is no HR. That Cameron thought condescending and patronizing language was appropriate for the House shows how out of touch he his with modern workplaces. The comment reminded me of a cartoon from the 80s, "There's no sexism in this union, love", which, I believe, was intended to be ironic. Would the reactions of some have been different if it had been Blair or Brown that had made the statements?


They do have HR, it comes via the "Speaker of the house".
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Message 1159161 - Posted: 5 Oct 2011, 18:27:09 UTC - in response to Message 1159152.  

Here's something to think about. We don't get many British commercials here so the line was lost on most of us.


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Message 1159176 - Posted: 5 Oct 2011, 19:11:50 UTC - in response to Message 1159161.  

Here's something to think about. We don't get many British commercials here so the line was lost on most of us.


Your dead lucky then, Skildude, and us here are as lucky too for we don't get that quantity of commercials you have to put up with.
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Message 1159389 - Posted: 6 Oct 2011, 12:11:13 UTC - in response to Message 1159176.  

That's why I channel surf. I can't stand commercials. I'd rather watch something on demand or on a movie channel so I can get more than a 6 year olds attention span worth of a show


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Message 1159404 - Posted: 6 Oct 2011, 13:38:41 UTC

When I have some time to kill I also surf channel. Like skilldude I try to avoid Commercials as they have the ability of killing your brain cells quite fast. Other programs that I try to avoid are soap operas, especially the ones made in Portugal, where you just see some girls with low cuts and high skirts pretending to know that they are act, or some silly reality shows where the larger the tits (maybe i should have wrote breasts) and the less brain, the longer they will be able to be on the show.

Sometimes when I’m in bed, just before going to sleep I thank God for having a child that ask me to watch cartoons with him.

Then I’m sure he loves me, when by some way he avoid that my brain get’s killed by reality shows, commercials and stupid crappy soap operas.

Governments make laws about so many things, they should legislate about the amount of crap that your brain can tolerate on TV.
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Message 1160165 - Posted: 8 Oct 2011, 12:18:36 UTC - in response to Message 1159404.  

Governments make laws about so many things, they should legislate about the amount of crap that your brain can tolerate on TV.


Get rid of the television, that's the answer...be a TV free zone like me.
Had no TV since I bought my house 28 years ago.
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Message 1160240 - Posted: 8 Oct 2011, 16:29:38 UTC - in response to Message 1159404.  

Governments make laws about so many things, they should legislate about the amount of crap that your brain can tolerate on TV.


That will never happen, because it would open the door for limiting the amount of Crap we all get from our Governments, and that would very quickly put them out of business.

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Message 1160348 - Posted: 8 Oct 2011, 21:15:53 UTC

I don't know if it was divine providence but my super trooper LED TV just died after my last post on this thread.

So I'm back on reading and board games to spend time after dinner :)

Now my fight is with the TV retailler. After all I want a new screen :D

But one thing is sure Karl Marx was wrong. Religion is not the opium of the people, the real opium is TV and shows like Ophra, Dr OZ and friends....

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Message 1160457 - Posted: 9 Oct 2011, 2:19:56 UTC - in response to Message 1160348.  

Religion is not the opium of the people, the real opium is TV and shows like Ophra, Dr OZ and friends....

Which is why some people rail against Hollywood and the USA as they loose their fundamentalist flock to the boob tube.



Good luck on the TV.

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