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Message 1150878 - Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 16:57:28 UTC
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I looked to the last 20 WUs which my machine got, and found a few re-sent, because of 6.04 errors.

This are the machines (I think they are not already mentioned here):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=1976563
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3959354
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4859101
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5158671
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5383615
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5502641
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5640937
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5933174

Maybe it helps to find a solution for to fix the mistake.


[EDIT: Maybe it would be better to cancel 6.04 and send out again 6.03 app to MACs?
And the admins should test 6.04 first at S@h BETA? ;-) Or there are not enough MACs?]


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Message 1150903 - Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 18:54:29 UTC
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I looked to the now last 20 WUs and found a few MACs with 6.04 errors (they should be new here):

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3398110
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4503276
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4677132
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4992973
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5002737
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5153585
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5238176
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5464380
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5465057
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5468376
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5474182
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5510495
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5524221
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5641019
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5851124
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5853498
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5857362
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5897727
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5921391
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6159132


I worry 6.04 have a BUG and need to be canceled..

(This was the last time I post MACs with 6.04 errors, because it looks like it don't work well)


[EDIT: BTW, I have sent a message to the admins because of the errors, so they are informed (about this thread).]


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Message 1150907 - Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 19:13:17 UTC

You can add this one to the list of the fallen.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=815296914.

It errored out on 3 different Macs before it crunched out ok on my CUDA card.

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Message 1150922 - Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 19:43:29 UTC - in response to Message 1150856.  
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That box (iBook G4) also completed this 0.74 AR Task http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=815237216 in about 5 minutes with a -9 result_overflow. We'll see if it validates.

It did validate. So my ancient iBook G4 is batting 1000 on the 6.04 MB ap. And ECTs on the rest of the queue look reasonable.

The Mac G4 (desktop) is about 30 minutes into this Task http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=814725863, no sign of problems so far.

What does seem clear is that newer versions of Mac OS-X (10.5/Darwin 9.xx and above) don't like this new 6.04 ap.
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Message 1150926 - Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 20:01:42 UTC - in response to Message 1150922.  

That box (iBook G4) also completed this 0.74 AR Task http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=815237216 in about 5 minutes with a -9 result_overflow. We'll see if it validates.

It did validate. So my ancient iBook G4 is batting 1000 on the 6.04 MB ap. And ECTs on the rest of the queue look reasonable.

The Mac G4 (desktop) is about 30 minutes into this Task http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=814725863, no sign of problems so far.

What does seem clear is that newer versions of Mac OS-X (10.5/Darwin 9.xx and above) don't like this new 6.04 ap.

It looks like all of the hosts that are failing are Intel based instead of PPC. Maybe they forgot to make it a universal binary this time.
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Message 1150936 - Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 20:15:22 UTC - in response to Message 1150926.  

That box (iBook G4) also completed this 0.74 AR Task http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=815237216 in about 5 minutes with a -9 result_overflow. We'll see if it validates.

It did validate. So my ancient iBook G4 is batting 1000 on the 6.04 MB ap. And ECTs on the rest of the queue look reasonable.

The Mac G4 (desktop) is about 30 minutes into this Task http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=814725863, no sign of problems so far.

What does seem clear is that newer versions of Mac OS-X (10.5/Darwin 9.xx and above) don't like this new 6.04 ap.

It looks like all of the hosts that are failing are Intel based instead of PPC. Maybe they forgot to make it a universal binary this time.

I believe OS-X 10.6 and above are Intel-only. 10.5 (Leopard) is the last to support G4 and G5 PPCs

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Message 1150938 - Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 20:34:12 UTC

I've got a couple of 6.04 Wingmen amongst my recently received work and I've completed one of those with no problems on my 'WIntel' PC. Firstly, the finished WU and then there is this one.



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Message 1150947 - Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 21:22:15 UTC
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Yes, it looks like all reported MACs here which make errors with 6.04 have an Intel CPU.

One of my old reported machines:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5002737
Darwin 8.11.1 -> so it's MAC OS 10.4
with Intel CPU

So maybe the new 6.04 don't work with Intel CPUs?


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Message 1150970 - Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 22:13:39 UTC
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I looked through a lot of WUs and found two MACs not with Intel CPU.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5521198
Darwin 9.8.0 - MAC OS 10.5
CPU Power Macintosh [Power Macintosh Model PowerMac3,6] [AltiVec]
..to now one well and granted 6.04 result.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=2142352
Darwin 8.11.0 - MAC OS 10.4
CPU Power Macintosh [Power Macintosh Model PowerMac11,2] [AltiVec]
..to now no result with 6.04 .

Donald's machine is running also well with 6.04 ..

So it looks like 6.04 don't like Intel CPUs.


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Message 1150975 - Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 22:27:39 UTC

Same experience here. All the 6.04 tasks on my MacBook (Intel) have bombed out immediately with several iterations of the "exited with zero status but no 'finished' file" error. My G5 (PowerPC) seems perfectly happy and has so far returned two 6.04 results (one validated and the other pending) and has one ready to report and another in progress.

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Message 1150986 - Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 22:39:54 UTC

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=2724767
Darwin 9.8.0 - MAC OS 10.5
CPU Power Macintosh [Power Macintosh Model PowerMac12,1] [AltiVec]
..to now one well and granted 6.04 result.


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Message 1150987 - Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 22:40:36 UTC - in response to Message 1150975.  

Same experience here. All the 6.04 tasks on my MacBook (Intel) have bombed out immediately with several iterations of the "exited with zero status but no 'finished' file" error. My G5 (PowerPC) seems perfectly happy and has so far returned two 6.04 results (one validated and the other pending) and has one ready to report and another in progress.

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So the next question is:

How difficult is it to make the Scheduler assign 6.03 to Intel Macs and 6.04 to PPCs?

Or would it be easier to cancel 6.04 entirely?
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Message 1150990 - Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 22:45:19 UTC

I have sent a message to Eric to be sure he is aware of the problem.
Dunno if he is at home this weekend or not, but I did send it his way.
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Message 1151023 - Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 1:21:14 UTC - in response to Message 1150987.  

Same experience here. All the 6.04 tasks on my MacBook (Intel) have bombed out immediately with several iterations of the "exited with zero status but no 'finished' file" error. My G5 (PowerPC) seems perfectly happy and has so far returned two 6.04 results (one validated and the other pending) and has one ready to report and another in progress.

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So the next question is:

How difficult is it to make the Scheduler assign 6.03 to Intel Macs and 6.04 to PPCs?

Or would it be easier to cancel 6.04 entirely?

Looking at the Applications list it shows two lines for Mac stuff. Mac OS/X 10.3+ 6.04 & Mac OS X/Intel 6.04. So I am guessing they are aware of the type of machines connecting & would only have to regress the Intel 6.04 application if they are actually separate apps.
Also Beta shows 6.03 for both platforms. So this was probably a quick fix for something that should have been fine, but apparently one tiny thing did get overlooked.

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Message 1151024 - Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 1:31:51 UTC - in response to Message 1150936.  

That box (iBook G4) also completed this 0.74 AR Task http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=815237216 in about 5 minutes with a -9 result_overflow. We'll see if it validates.

It did validate. So my ancient iBook G4 is batting 1000 on the 6.04 MB ap. And ECTs on the rest of the queue look reasonable.

The Mac G4 (desktop) is about 30 minutes into this Task http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=814725863, no sign of problems so far.

What does seem clear is that newer versions of Mac OS-X (10.5/Darwin 9.xx and above) don't like this new 6.04 ap.

It looks like all of the hosts that are failing are Intel based instead of PPC. Maybe they forgot to make it a universal binary this time.

I believe OS-X 10.6 and above are Intel-only. 10.5 (Leopard) is the last to support G4 and G5 PPCs

You are spot on. A complete list looks something like this.
PPC 10.0 to 10.5
Intel x86 10.4, 10.5, & 10.6
Intel x64 10.6 & 10.7

10.4 & 10.5 will run on x64 hardware, but don't contain any x64 code apparently.

Apple had stated when they switched to Intel that they always had builds for Intel platforms of OS X, but I'm not sure what purpose they would serve to ever get them to play with. Unless you were going to make a hackintosh to play with.
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Message 1151046 - Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 4:17:19 UTC - in response to Message 1151023.  
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Looking at the Applications list it shows two lines for Mac stuff. Mac OS/X 10.3+ 6.04 & Mac OS X/Intel 6.04. So I am guessing they are aware of the type of machines connecting & would only have to regress the Intel 6.04 application if they are actually separate apps.
Also Beta shows 6.03 for both platforms. So this was probably a quick fix for something that should have been fine, but apparently one tiny thing did get overlooked.

I could be wrong, but IIRC the Mac OS X/Intel entry in the app overviews is new now.

IIRC, as I looked there, 2nd message here in this thread, there was only Mac OS/X 10.3+ .

So I guess there is some activity behind the curtain..


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Message 1151047 - Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 4:25:25 UTC
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I have a 2-year-old iMac (core 2 duo) running snow leopard (10.6.8). All S@H tasks (6.04) are erroring-out pretty fast with repeated "errno 88". "man 2 intro" shows errno==88 as "88 EBADMACHO Malformed Mach-o file. The Mach object file is malformed.". I ran the prior version for ages with no problem.

S@H is suspended until this is fixed. I don't want to waste my time or anyone else's.

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Message 1151048 - Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 4:29:41 UTC - in response to Message 1150990.  
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I have sent a message to Eric to be sure he is aware of the problem.
Dunno if he is at home this weekend or not, but I did send it his way.

I sent already an EMail to (the project admins) Dave, Eric, Jeff and Matt_(thus he is also up to date during his absence.. ;-).


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Message 1151052 - Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 5:09:59 UTC

I'm deprecating 6.04 until we've figured out what's wrong. We're back to 6.03, which may not work on newer Macs that have too many processor cores unless the use at most "N" processors is set to a low values.

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Message 1151155 - Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 16:27:29 UTC - in response to Message 1151052.  

I'm deprecating 6.04 until we've figured out what's wrong. We're back to 6.03, which may not work on newer Macs that have too many processor cores unless the use at most "N" processors is set to a low values.

Do you need hardware to test versions on? Unfortunately the newest Intel mac I have at work in my test lab is a core 2 duo. I could set machines up for beta Monday if needed.
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