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Message 1129933 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 3:57:37 UTC - in response to Message 1129932.  


Physical Interfaces:
- LAN Ports: Four (4) 10/100 Mbps auto-sensing, Auto
Uplinkâ„¢ RJ-45 ports (one Cat 5 UTP cable included),
802.11g access point and Super G
-WAN Port: ADSL RJ-11, T1.413, G.DMT, G.Lite,
ITU Annex A; Annex B version is DG834PNB


So it should be able to handle the router duties.



-WAN Port: ADSL RJ-11 not RJ-45.

http://forum1.netgear.com/showthread.php?t=54696
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Message 1129971 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 7:50:02 UTC
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OK... Just to repeat the instructions... Just to be sure for to be sure to be sure:

Holy Hand Grenade manual
...Then, shalt thou count to three, no more, no less.
Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three.
Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three.
Five is right out.
Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, ...

Maynard: Amen.

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Reminder:

Internet --- modem (RJ45 WAN port) --- (RJ45 WAN port) router (RJ45 LAN ports or WiFi) ---> (RJ45/WiFi) LAN (multiple) devices


Hope that helps.

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Message 1130139 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 18:07:34 UTC - in response to Message 1129971.  

Also...just to throw a wrench in...

Take a look at the "RJ-11" wan port on the router.
They sometimes use an RJ-45 sized connector. You may find that
it has more that two pins and may, in fact, use an RJ-45 connection.

ie, most companies try to cut costs where ever they can and produce
such similar products for more than one purpose that the only real
difference is the label...as in the difference between an internal and
external cd/dvd or harddrive.

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Message 1130199 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 20:07:47 UTC - in response to Message 1130139.  

Also...just to throw a wrench in...

Take a look at the "RJ-11" wan port on the router.
They sometimes use an RJ-45 sized connector. You may find that
it has more that two pins and may, in fact, use an RJ-45 connection.

ie, most companies try to cut costs where ever they can and produce
such similar products for more than one purpose that the only real
difference is the label...as in the difference between an internal and
external cd/dvd or harddrive.

$0.02


On page A-2 of the manual, it says:
WAN: ADSL, RJ-11, pins 2 and 3

along with the ADSL standards that are supported. This would imply that the connector, whether using an RJ-11 or RJ-45 sized socket, is only wired for RJ-11 pins 2 and 3.

I'd stick with ML1's advice and get an actual ethernet spec'd router.

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Message 1130213 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 21:04:44 UTC
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Thanks for the posts, which I still need to catch up with.

I have been away today at Hospital with Sheila, and not much toe for much else.

I will send some time tomorrow catching up with this thread.

Again Thanks

Just run through the thread and it looks like I need to get a WAN router with DHCP capability so that -

Satellite modem--->>WAN router--->>PC1/PC2/PC3--->>multi-port switcher--->>PC4/network laser/SamKnows modified ADSL router (router and Internet disabled) and any other network devices I may have later.

From this the satellite modem will pass the external IP address to the WAN/Ethernet router, which will then distribute, by it's DHCP server, the private network IP addresses to all attached devices.

I will look for a dedicated WAN enabled router over the next week or so.

ATM the modem works and gives me access to all sites, etc, I need.
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Message 1130269 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 23:44:48 UTC

Hi
connect the sat modem to the wan port on your router and the your pc's to the the lan ports on your router either with lan wire or lan wireless.
i had some modems routers use 192.168.0.xxx or 192.168.1.xxx or 192.168.100.xxx it just depends on how the modem router was made to use the addresses was set up when it was made you will soon figure it out just let the modem router do its thing and work with the addresses it auto assigns.
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Message 1130292 - Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 1:12:37 UTC

It sounds like the sat modem does have DHCP (of sorts) but only has a single IP available to hand out. I agree with some previous posters, hook your NAT router to the sat modem and all the PCs to the NAT router.
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Message 1130365 - Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 9:51:25 UTC

I will take our dogs for a run, because of the rain, and will visit our IT supplier for a look at the Netgear RP614 router Richard H suggested.

I will also try and get Tooway's technical people to give me more data on their modem DHCP capability regarding private networks, for attached devices, and passing through the external IP address.
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Message 1130375 - Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 12:12:54 UTC

After returning from town, some 10 miles away, I think I have the passthrough solution in the TP-Link TL-WR1043ND which has a WAN port, 4 Ethernet ports and a DHCP server.

I now need to save up the £56 (inclusive of VAT) and, hopefully, my issue of attached devices with WAN pass through IP addresses will be solved.

Just leaves the learning of UK proxy servers to allow the ise of ITV Player and iPlayer.
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Message 1130416 - Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 15:43:31 UTC - in response to Message 1130375.  
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... which has a WAN port, 4 Ethernet ports and a DHCP server.

I now need to save up the £56 (inclusive of VAT) and, hopefully, my issue of attached devices with WAN pass through IP addresses will be solved. ...


What?!

Any of these will do:

TP-Link Wireless Broadband Router 802.11n Lite 150Mbps (TL-WR740N) £ 18.00 Inc VAT

Tenda Wireless Broadband Router 802.11n Lite 150Mbps (W311R) £ 15.00 Inc VAT

Tenda Wireless Broadband Router 802.11n 300Mbps (W307R) £ 20.00 Inc VAT

TP-Link Wireless Broadband Router 802.11n 300Mbps (TL-WR841N) £ 24.00 Inc VAT

And all not too many miles from you...


The key detail is:

  • Provides one 10/100Mbps Auto-Negotiation Ethernet WAN port
  • Provides four 10/100Mbps Auto-Negotiation Ethernet LAN ports



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Message 1130421 - Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 15:51:42 UTC - in response to Message 1130375.  

After returning from town, some 10 miles away, I think I have the passthrough solution in the TP-Link TL-WR1043ND which has a WAN port, 4 Ethernet ports and a DHCP server.

I now need to save up the £56 (inclusive of VAT) and, hopefully, my issue of attached devices with WAN pass through IP addresses will be solved.

Just leaves the learning of UK proxy servers to allow the ise of ITV Player and iPlayer.

Yes, that specification is compatible with what you need. I'd just say that the price is a bit steep - my local supplier has the same TL-WR1043ND available at £42.42, likewise inclusive of VAT.

And that is an absolutely top-of-the-line spec for a home router. The same manufacturer has wired routers (no wireless facility) starting under £11 - and you said you weren't using the wireless capability of you current Netgear ADSL device - and perfectly respectable wireless routers around the £20 mark. Although only you can make the final choice, and I'm a great believer in paying a bit more for quality and good features, I'd be tempted to suggest that this is more than you absolutely need.
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Message 1130449 - Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 16:35:08 UTC

Thanks Martin for the alternative WAN router suggestions, and prices, confirmed by Richard.

I went in to town to see what was available and how much it cost. Expensive yes, but as posted cheaper alternatives are available.

I will look in to the alternative retail outlets, and get a device in then next few days.
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Message 1130526 - Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 20:15:35 UTC
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ML1

I like the third option you suggested (Tenda WAN por unit for £20.00). Their Bulwell store is only about hald to three quarters of an hour drive to collect.

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