x39e_cuda32 app is the 'final' version?

I gave it a try (my famous bench-test ;-) on my system (E7600 & GTX260 OC, WinXP) and it's slower as x38g_cuda32 app.

Maybe you could report this at the Lunatics forum?

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Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe - 275.33

TaskName: PG030429731429144.wu - 783.828 secs Elapsed - 78.906 secs CPU time
TaskName: PG039172342915667.wu - 588.703 secs Elapsed - 68.266 secs CPU time
TaskName: PG043184314852926.wu - 508.594 secs Elapsed - 61.484 secs CPU time
TaskName: PG23752934904573.wu - 123.969 secs Elapsed - 29.953 secs CPU time
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Lunatics_x39e_win32_cuda32.exe - 275.33

TaskName: PG030429731429144.wu - 820.109 secs Elapsed - 86.688 secs CPU time
TaskName: PG039172342915667.wu - 607.672 secs Elapsed - 72.203 secs CPU time
TaskName: PG043184314852926.wu - 524.781 secs Elapsed - 65.984 secs CPU time
TaskName: PG23752934904573.wu - 125.703 secs Elapsed - 30.016 secs CPU time
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I also tried x39e for a couple of hours on my gtx460, I didn't do any test as Sutaru but it seems 1 min or so slower than x38g with midrange WUs.

x39e_cuda32 app is the 'final' version?

If you look in you stderr.txt you can see it sais preview.

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X39e is a test version to give Jason a little more information about a small problem that a few of us was having. It is a little slower because it is trying a bit different way of doing things.Until Jason can get his new power supply and get back to work it will have to do for the few of us. He has said he has a few ideas in mind to speed us up.

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x39e_cuda32 app is the 'final' version?

If you look in you stderr.txt you can see it sais preview.

I know.

Because of this I wrote it with ' ..

'Final' related to the integration of the app to a new Lunatics Installer.

To now all apps, from x32 to now, have the addition 'preview'.


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What means its not final.

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What means its not final.

I think you misunderstood me..

'Final' version related to the integration of this app to a Lunatics Installer.


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X39e is a test version to give Jason a little more information about a small problem that a few of us was having. It is a little slower because it is trying a bit different way of doing things.Until Jason can get his new power supply and get back to work it will have to do for the few of us. He has said he has a few ideas in mind to speed us up.

IIRC, a few Fermi GPUs.

The x39e_cuda32 app was tested already on non Fermi GPUs?
And they reported that it's slower?


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Sutaru, He said he would think about setting up a bare bones installer to change from the x38g to the x39e. Not a completely new installer. As I said, x39e is an attempt to correct a problem some of us were having with the x38g. If 38g is working okay for you, there's no reason to switch to the 39e. My problem with the x38g was that I would still down clock but it was only happening to a few of us.

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I think the difference in speed is caused by the different priority:

Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe - runs at "Normal" priority (some people report lags in games/video/flash)
Lunatics_x39e_win32_cuda32.exe - runs at "Bellow Normal" priority

(Note: My "knowledge" on this is based solely on what I read on the forums. Somebody can confirm?)

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Sutaru, He said he would think about setting up a bare bones installer to change from the x38g to the x39e. Not a completely new installer. As I said, x39e is an attempt to correct a problem some of us were having with the x38g. If 38g is working okay for you, there's no reason to switch to the 39e. My problem with the x38g was that I would still down clock but it was only happening to a few of us.

Ahh.. thanks.

I'm not up-to-date what's going on in the Lunatics forum..

Since my 'kicking out' I read not longer there. (OTOH, anyway I couldn't read beta area now. ;-)


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I think the difference in speed is caused by the different priority:

Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe - runs at "Normal" priority (some people report lags in games/video/flash)
Lunatics_x39e_win32_cuda32.exe - runs at "Bellow Normal" priority

(Note: My "knowledge" on this is based solely on what I read on the forums. Somebody can confirm?)

I did and do my bench-tests always with Fred's eFMer Priority tool set to 'high'.

The CUDA app had/have always priority 'high' on my system (bench-test also 'normal' crunching).

If I did/do a bench-test only the CUDA app is running (no CPU WUs).


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I think the difference in speed is caused by the different priority:

Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe - runs at "Normal" priority (some people report lags in games/video/flash)
Lunatics_x39e_win32_cuda32.exe - runs at "Bellow Normal" priority

(Note: My "knowledge" on this is based solely on what I read on the forums. Somebody can confirm?)

That's part of it. It wasn't really supposed to run at normal priority because it could interfere with other work you might be doing but as I said, my problem was that even with x38g I was still down clocking on my GPU when I pushed it too hard running three at a time. That and just overall sluggishness of my whole system even when it didn't down clock. x39e was an attempt to cure that and to give more information in the stderr for Jason to get a better handle on what was happening.

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I have 20 left than i´m dry also.
But got 1300 MBs today, so enough to reshedule back and forth.

How does one Reschedule from MB to AP (or vice versa)?
I'm very curious...

You don't. They mean reschedule MB work to keep their GPU busy.

You can reschedule AP too,

Claggy

Yes, but not from MB's, but between AP CPU, and AP ATI GPU. I did that often in the beginning, but rescheduling F's up the DCF, and it makes the scheduler think you're faster or slower depending on which way you reschedule, and ultimately you will get much lower credit for many WU's than you would otherwise have had.

So, I've totally stopped rescheduling, and gone to unticking/ticking CPU/GPU on the SETI@home preferences page. Since ATI GPU have no options there, it's harder to fix that, but one can always choose to get MB and AP ATI, by unticking CPU on the SETI@home preferences.

I do the same as you, i don't rescheduler ever any more, haven't for well over 6 months, But i do have a method of changing the device a Wu is going to run on,
I manually edit my client_state.xml and remove the two file_info sections, the result section and the workunit section for a Wu, then get the Server to resend the Wu to the other device,
(Disable CPU and Nvidia GPU work fetch, and only ATI GPU work fetch is active) and since you already have the Wu file, the download is skipped.

Claggy

How you do it? I mean how you know which WU to reschedule?

A few (maybe much more ;-) members and I still reschedule GPU WUs, because we use an other 'VLAR value'.
Maybe the performance of the whole machine increase, but the RAC decrease because of 'CreditNew'..

How I could search/detect the AR value automatically?

It's maybe possible to do your manually work automatically - and without to change always the project settings?

Maybe someone with knowledge could think about.. ;-)
..that not only the WU was rescheduled on the PC, also an info about was sent to the server.. ..for correct Cr.


BTW.
The <flops> entries in app_info.xml file could disturb also the 'CreditNew'?


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