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![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3377 Credit: 20,676,751 RAC: 0 ![]() |
On my rig, E5400 dual with a GTS 450 running three at a time, On the GPU I'm completing the shorties in about 8 - 10 minutes. the mid range work is taking about 36 - 48 minutes each. This is about the same as what I was doing with the old 0.32 app but I was only running two at a time then. I'm also seeing some new work dated 30 April 2011 taking about an hour give or take a couple of minutes. For my rig this is fantastic. A very nice speed up. Before this little hickup I reached a RAC of over 9300. That's the highest I've ever been. Should be interesting to see what the jump will be when we get going again. ![]() PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC |
kittyman ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51445 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 ![]() ![]() |
Another heads up for you crunching fanatics out there. And I just now remembered this..... For those of you using the eFMer priority program to run your Cuda work at high priority.... Remember to change the program name in eFmer to the new app name after doing the new Lunatics install....otherwise it is no longer changing the priority. Meow! "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 64794 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 ![]() ![]() |
Upgrade to Lunatics x38g and 275.33 successful, Waiting to fire main cannon. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
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Say I just upgraded to x38g and now It's loading cuda_fermi wu's, I don't have a single fermi in this PC, Is this ok to use with My GTX295 cards? The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
kittyman ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51445 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 ![]() ![]() |
Say I just upgraded to x38g and now It's loading cuda_fermi wu's, I don't have a single fermi in this PC, Is this ok to use with My GTX295 cards? ??? Where do you see anything about fermi in the WU description? "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 64794 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 ![]() ![]() |
Say I just upgraded to x38g and now It's loading cuda_fermi wu's, I don't have a single fermi in this PC, Is this ok to use with My GTX295 cards? Is this good enough? ![]() Oh and am I imagining the slow downs in the connection to the forums, I'm having trouble posting. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
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Say I just upgraded to x38g and now It's loading cuda_fermi wu's, I don't have a single fermi in this PC, Is this ok to use with My GTX295 cards? The Work units aren't going to be online for a few hours. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 30 Aug 01 Posts: 1228 Credit: 47,779,411 RAC: 32 ![]() ![]() |
I believe this is because the <plan_class> tag in your app_info.xml file has "cuda_fermi" for version 6.10. -Dave ![]() |
![]() Send message Joined: 6 Jun 03 Posts: 128 Credit: 16,561,684 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I put x38g_cuda32 and 275.33 WHQLs on my GTX216 last night (my time) and I've noticed a definite speed up :) The only 'issue' I'm having with it is that whenever it's loading the WU into the GPU (that first 15-20seconds or so), if I'm watching a video on youtube or dvd, playing a game or whatever, the video and sometimes entire system hangs until it starts crunching. Doesn't seem to happen if I'm -not- watching a video/playing a game, though it could just be that I don't notice it. Other than that, I've noticed temps have increased ~2C, nothing major, and GPU load sits at a constant 80%+, mem controller load 40%+ and it never dips below these values. Previously, I'd see spiky dips anywhere between 70-85%.. so that would explain the speed up, if nothing else :) Thanks for the release! |
Josef W. Segur Send message Joined: 30 Oct 99 Posts: 4504 Credit: 1,414,761 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Say I just upgraded to x38g and now It's loading cuda_fermi wu's, I don't have a single fermi in this PC, Is this ok to use with My GTX295 cards? All the WUs are the same, so yes it is OK. And the servers don't much care what the plan_class is, as long as it contains "cuda" x38g tasks will be considered "SETI@home Enhanced (anonymous platform, nvidia GPU)". The reason for the plan classes included in the app_info.xml which the installer sets up is to match the 3 stock classes. Then tasks aren't deleted for those upgrading from stock. The 6.10 cuda_fermi class is listed first, so new tasks are simply assigned to that app_version. Joe |
dan ![]() Send message Joined: 18 Oct 02 Posts: 392 Credit: 25,046,383 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Do the new CUDA apps use more constant cpu time now? It seems when monitoring the core usage in Task Manager, the CUDA apps are using up to 3% of the processor the entire crunch time. I thought with the previous version, the cpu portion was mainly starting and ending the tasks, with essentially no cpu use during crunching. Not a real big deal just making sure this is the way it is supposed to be. Thanks Dan ![]() ![]() |
Grumpy Swede (I stand with Ukraine) ![]() Send message Joined: 1 Nov 08 Posts: 8848 Credit: 49,849,242 RAC: 65 ![]() ![]() |
Is the file "libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll" no longer needed fr CUDA x38g? It wasn't included in the installer, and it is no longer referenced in the app_info. It was in X32f though. What is the "libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll?, and why isn't it needed now? I'm planning to upgrade the CUDA on my ION PC, that's why another batch of questions :-) ![]() |
Richard Haselgrove ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14456 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 ![]() ![]() |
Is the file "libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll" no longer needed fr CUDA x38g? It wasn't included in the installer, and it is no longer referenced in the app_info. Correct. It is no longer needed with any of the Lunatics applications, and, if you are only using the Lunatics applications packaged in the 0.38 installer, there is no need to refer to this file in app_info.xml The file is a 'library' of computer routines for "Fast Fourier Transforms", a mathematical technique heavily used in our sort of signal processing. For further information (more than you probably needed!) see http://www.fftw.org/. The stock (Berkeley) applications all use this external library for their FFT needs. The Lunatics applications have the necessary mathematical tools built in to the application itself, so the external dependency has been removed. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 ![]() ![]() |
Installed the new version late afternoon yesterday and left my drivers alone. Sure seems like th work crunches noticeably faster. I haveb noticed like a few others that the temps went up 2 degrees C. across CPU and GPU. Ill run these drivers untill we get rid of all these shortys So i can get a good read on times. Thanks to all of you at lunatics for a great job. ![]() Old James |
Grumpy Swede (I stand with Ukraine) ![]() Send message Joined: 1 Nov 08 Posts: 8848 Credit: 49,849,242 RAC: 65 ![]() ![]() |
Is the file "libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll" no longer needed fr CUDA x38g? It wasn't included in the installer, and it is no longer referenced in the app_info. Thanks Richard, as always your answers are fast, clear, and concise. Since I will only use Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe, AK_v8b_win_x64_SSSE3x.exe, and ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe, there seems then to be no need for the file in question. ![]() |
BetelgeuseFive ![]() Send message Joined: 6 Jul 99 Posts: 157 Credit: 17,117,787 RAC: 19 ![]() ![]() |
Wow, this is much better compared to the 0.37 release. On my GT240 (driver 270.61) it is about 15 percent faster. The 0.37 release was the first optimized version I used and it did not seem to improve much compared to the 'stock' app, but 0.38 certainly makes a big difference. Please keep up the good work ! Tom |
Dave Send message Joined: 29 Mar 02 Posts: 777 Credit: 25,001,396 RAC: 0 ![]() |
if I'm watching a video on youtube or dvd, playing a game or whatever, the video and sometimes entire system hangs until it starts crunching Best to pause while you're doing other video-intensive tasks to maintain the quality of the science. |
kittyman ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51445 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 ![]() ![]() |
If somebody gets a valid test on the 266.58 stable driver VS newer or current versions using the new apps, the kitties are curious whether it is worth risking the upgrade. And this would be, I guess, a separate question for 200 series cards and Fermi class cards. Meow. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster ![]() |
Grumpy Swede (I stand with Ukraine) ![]() Send message Joined: 1 Nov 08 Posts: 8848 Credit: 49,849,242 RAC: 65 ![]() ![]() |
If somebody gets a valid test on the 266.58 stable driver VS newer or current versions using the new apps, the kitties are curious whether it is worth risking the upgrade. Look at this thread: Test ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6533 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 ![]() ![]() |
If somebody gets a valid test on the 266.58 stable driver VS newer or current versions using the new apps, the kitties are curious whether it is worth risking the upgrade. I was using driver 266.58 with the F app and left it the same for the G app on host 5530010. However I am using an 8500GT so I'm not sure if that will help you in any way. I didn't do any benchmarking like Sutaru did, but the time estimates in BOINC were going down quickly after changing the app. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours |
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