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Message 1140347 - Posted: 14 Aug 2011, 9:09:34 UTC - in response to Message 1140346.  

It's worse than above...New downloaded CPU tasks are not appearing in tasks tab once download is complete?

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Message 1140348 - Posted: 14 Aug 2011, 9:13:03 UTC - in response to Message 1140347.  

Update: some have just appeared.....wierd...they don't normally take several minutes...<confused>

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Message 1140349 - Posted: 14 Aug 2011, 9:15:17 UTC

All looks O.K. so far on your host.
Make sure you have show all tasks selected in work tab (Boinc manager).

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Message 1140350 - Posted: 14 Aug 2011, 9:17:12 UTC - in response to Message 1140348.  
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Ok, I'm a blithering idiot.....

*clicks 'show all tasks'*

There are definitely loads of orphan tasks somewhere on my machine but everything is showing that has been downloaded since the reload of the Lunatics app.

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Message 1140353 - Posted: 14 Aug 2011, 9:25:51 UTC - in response to Message 1140346.  

...You could get some additional speed by running the installer again and choosing the SSSE3x optimized CPU build, your i5-2410M CPU supports that too.
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I stopped the BOINC manager running, uninstalled the Lunatics app, started BOINC manager then reinstalled the Lunatics app selecting SSSE3x as suggested. Guess what:

All downloads and tasks in progress are lost and now BOINC is downloading new tasks to work on <blank stare>

Is there any way of reattaching existing tasks?

Well it seemed like the right order to apply <rolls eyes>

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Well, I'm afraid that you've just learned the hard way that it wasn't the right order.

In fact, Joe just suggested a single step: running the installer again. If you had done that, your existing work would have ben preserved. Unfortunately, now it's gone, you'll just have to download it again the normal way.

For the record, the step which probably did the damage is restarting BOINC between uninstalling Lunatics and installing it again. If you are doing maintenance like that, it's better to stop BOINC at the beginning and leave it stopped until you've finished everything you intend to do.

But just changing applications doesn't require that. You can re-run the installer over the top of the existing applications, and the installer itself will close down and restart the bit of BOINC - the core client - which needs closing. We're going to provide more information about that in the next version - it's already been pointed out that this one isn't as explicit as it could be.
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Message 1140354 - Posted: 14 Aug 2011, 9:28:14 UTC - in response to Message 1140353.  
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Sorry Guys, I know it's important not to waste the units....Highly inefficient.

I'll know for next time!!

Thanks for your help.

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Message 1140398 - Posted: 14 Aug 2011, 13:55:51 UTC - in response to Message 1140353.  

and the installer itself will close down and restart the bit of BOINC - the core client - which needs closing.


I saw that in the instructions but decided to do it the old way, shut down client, shut down BM, then make changes. I get kinda cowardly when it comes to trusting a program to do what it is supposed to do until I see others saying it works. Plus, it's hard to overcome force of habit. :-)



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Message 1140471 - Posted: 14 Aug 2011, 17:49:02 UTC

And normally, you do NOT want to 'show all tasks', especially if you have a large cache. Takes more overhead to sort and display everything. Set it back to 'show active tasks' once you have seen what you want to see.
And close Boinc Manager completely if you are not looking at all. Just make sure you have not clicked 'stop running science applications' in the exit window.
I have a link to the Boinc manager pinned to my taskbar in Win7 so I have a 1 click startup for it any time I want to check things.
On my other rigs, I just have a shortcut on the desktop.
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Message 1140498 - Posted: 14 Aug 2011, 19:01:21 UTC

Im a coward when it comes to upgrading boinc myslef. I set NNT, waite till all work units are done and gone, then upgrade to the next newest thing. Id rather be safe then flush a days cache down the tubes.
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Message 1140550 - Posted: 14 Aug 2011, 21:41:54 UTC - in response to Message 1140498.  

That makes, at least, two of us!



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Message 1140552 - Posted: 14 Aug 2011, 21:47:27 UTC - in response to Message 1140550.  

Make that 3. ;)

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Message 1140596 - Posted: 15 Aug 2011, 0:04:10 UTC

Upgrading Boinc is safe.

Nothing to worry about.
I usually have hundreds of units in my cache while upgrading.

Never had a problem.

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Message 1140677 - Posted: 15 Aug 2011, 3:26:50 UTC

I am installing the new v.38 and I have installed raistmer’s ap to data floder to
C//ProgramData/BOINC/projects/seti.Berkley.edu
And added the ap part to my app_info.xml file
And I see the ap cmdline and looks like this
<cmdline>-unroll 8 -ffa_block 6144 -ffa_block_fetch 1536 -instances_per_device 2 -hp -no_cpu_lock</cmdline>.
And from the readme file it says this

Tuning cmd line parameters:
For MB: other way round - if you experience lag or driver restarts increase
-period_iteration_num


So my question is where is the cmdline at for mb wu or where do I put the mb cmdline at in my app_info.xml file?

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Message 1140678 - Posted: 15 Aug 2011, 3:38:09 UTC - in response to Message 1140677.  
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I am installing the new v.38 and I have installed raistmer’s ap to data floder to
C//ProgramData/BOINC/projects/seti.Berkley.edu
And added the ap part to my app_info.xml file
And I see the ap cmdline and looks like this
<cmdline>-unroll 8 -ffa_block 6144 -ffa_block_fetch 1536 -instances_per_device 2 -hp -no_cpu_lock</cmdline>.
And from the readme file it says this

Tuning cmd line parameters:
For MB: other way round - if you experience lag or driver restarts increase
-period_iteration_num


So my question is where is the cmdline at for mb wu or where do I put the mb cmdline at in my app_info.xml file?


I notice that the cmdline is below this entry in the ap part of the app_info.xml file and I notice the other app_version entry also have thie same entry so I should put the cmdline there in the mb parts of the app_info.xml file.
<plan_class>cuda</plan_class>
<cmdline> -period_iteration_num N</cmdline> where as N is my factor
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Message 1140709 - Posted: 15 Aug 2011, 6:20:14 UTC - in response to Message 1140678.  
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I am installing the new v.38 and I have installed raistmer’s ap to data floder to
C//ProgramData/BOINC/projects/seti.Berkley.edu
And added the ap part to my app_info.xml file
And I see the ap cmdline and looks like this
<cmdline>-unroll 8 -ffa_block 6144 -ffa_block_fetch 1536 -instances_per_device 2 -hp -no_cpu_lock</cmdline>.
And from the readme file it says this

Tuning cmd line parameters:
For MB: other way round - if you experience lag or driver restarts increase
-period_iteration_num


So my question is where is the cmdline at for mb wu or where do I put the mb cmdline at in my app_info.xml file?


I notice that the cmdline is below this entry in the ap part of the app_info.xml file and I notice the other app_version entry also have thie same entry so I should put the cmdline there in the mb parts of the app_info.xml file.
<plan_class>cuda</plan_class>
<cmdline> -period_iteration_num N</cmdline> where as N is my factor



Note:

On MB cuda the commandline options are not implemented.

This only works for OpenCL apps.
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Message 1140719 - Posted: 15 Aug 2011, 7:24:57 UTC - in response to Message 1140709.  
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I am installing the new v.38 and I have installed raistmer’s ap to data floder to
C//ProgramData/BOINC/projects/seti.Berkley.edu
And added the ap part to my app_info.xml file
And I see the ap cmdline and looks like this
<cmdline>-unroll 8 -ffa_block 6144 -ffa_block_fetch 1536 -instances_per_device 2 -hp -no_cpu_lock</cmdline>.
And from the readme file it says this

Tuning cmd line parameters:
For MB: other way round - if you experience lag or driver restarts increase
-period_iteration_num


So my question is where is the cmdline at for mb wu or where do I put the mb cmdline at in my app_info.xml file?


I notice that the cmdline is below this entry in the ap part of the app_info.xml file and I notice the other app_version entry also have thie same entry so I should put the cmdline there in the mb parts of the app_info.xml file.
<plan_class>cuda</plan_class>
<cmdline> -period_iteration_num N</cmdline> where as N is my factor



Note:

On MB cuda the commandline options are not implemented.

This only works for OpenCL apps.

ok thanks
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Message 1141223 - Posted: 16 Aug 2011, 14:43:45 UTC

Hi guys !
I gave it a try , I have installed v0.38 choosing the right OS : W7 x64 , and
the 'for ATI 4XXX and over ' part as use an ATI Radeon HD 5770 .
Now looking in the Task Manager it works for the CPU ( AMD 1100T ) but I think
that the GPU doesn't work at all. At least the GPU-Z looks so...
Should I have done anything else ?
Any ideas ???
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Message 1141224 - Posted: 16 Aug 2011, 14:47:14 UTC - in response to Message 1141223.  

Hi guys !
I gave it a try , I have installed v0.38 choosing the right OS : W7 x64 , and
the 'for ATI 4XXX and over ' part as use an ATI Radeon HD 5770 .
Now looking in the Task Manager it works for the CPU ( AMD 1100T ) but I think
that the GPU doesn't work at all. At least the GPU-Z looks so...
Should I have done anything else ?
Any ideas ???

You'll have to wait until your computer has successfully contacted the server and downloaded new work for the card - that doesn't seem to have happened yet.

The servers have been a bit sticky today, and we're about to go into maintenance any second. I think you'll have to postpone your experiments until later today/
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Message 1141226 - Posted: 16 Aug 2011, 14:54:12 UTC

OK . THNX for answering
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