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Message 1086812 - Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 18:35:59 UTC - in response to Message 1086807.  

The toll will be int the tens of thousands..........

Did you watch the first tsunami?????????//
Christ Almighty come awash........

Yeah, I saw that monster wave on TV, Only those on hills nearby or on tall buildings here and there were safe. sigh another setback in a long line of setbacks going back to beyond antiquity.
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Message 1086816 - Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 18:54:33 UTC

Peoples tend to forget. The tsunami following the Messina quake of 1908 destroyed Messina and killed 80000 people. Yet people still live there. There were no nuclear reactors, of course, but some plan to build a bridge across the Stretto di Messina. I hope they think twice after this disaster.
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Message 1086826 - Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 20:02:08 UTC

Before/after

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Message 1086828 - Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 20:08:36 UTC - in response to Message 1086826.  

Before/after

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Those look bad.


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Message 1086829 - Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 20:21:43 UTC - in response to Message 1086828.  

Before/after

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Those look bad.

Agreed, Total Devastation for the most part, Almost no structures survived intact and the land is either flooded or has sank some. The airport @ Sendai might be salvageable though, As that whole area is not going to be the same as It was before.
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Message 1086973 - Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 9:45:43 UTC

Aftershocks are still occurring, take a look at this, Jeeeeez

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Message 1086988 - Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 11:56:17 UTC

The sheer scale of this just continues to grow unabated. It's the biggest mobilisation of Japanese forces since the second world war, with 100,000 troops on the move. 500,000 people have been displaced. The Bank of Japan is pumping a record $182bn of emergency funds into the country's financial system to try to provide stability, but experts are saying that even this will not be enough, there will need to be more. The Nikkei has dropped 4.5%

We are hearing that in addition to the two known nuclear plant explosions, two more reactors are now in difficulty with their cooling. What seems to have happened is that the reactors shut down because of the quake as they are designed to do. Then due to power failure the cooling system pumps shut down and the backup diesel generators kicked in. 1 hour later the Tsunami knocked out the generators. Now the fire brigade are trying to pump sea water, but it's only partially working. Also its being reported that radioactive contamination has been found in 17 US Navy crew members off Japans coast.


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Message 1086995 - Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 13:03:09 UTC - in response to Message 1086988.  

Nikkei dropped 6%. It's not pretty and I would think that trading would be halted for a week. In the hopes that some stability could be won.
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Message 1086996 - Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 13:11:51 UTC

What I think impresses me is that there has been no looting at all. During the 2007 floods in the UK West Country, abandoned cars were broken into and free packs of bottled water were stolen. There was looting in Chile after the earthquake last year, and troops were sent in. In New Orleans the looting was simply terrible.

Why do some people react to disaster by demonstrating everyone for himself, but others – especially the Japanese – are able to pull together in adversity?

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Message 1087016 - Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 15:39:07 UTC - in response to Message 1086996.  

What I think impresses me is that there has been no looting at all. During the 2007 floods in the UK West Country, abandoned cars were broken into and free packs of bottled water were stolen. There was looting in Chile after the earthquake last year, and troops were sent in. In New Orleans the looting was simply terrible.

Why do some people react to disaster by demonstrating everyone for himself, but others – especially the Japanese – are able to pull together in adversity?

I think You'll find It's their culture and maybe their religion, But then I could be wrong, As I'm just on the outside looking in. The USS Ronald Reagan("the navy has a Raygun") has moved farther offshore as It seems the whole ship moved through a radioactive cloud, So they may have to wash(decontaminate) the ship & personnel off.
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Message 1087017 - Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 15:50:43 UTC - in response to Message 1086996.  
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Why do some people react to disaster by demonstrating everyone for himself, but others – especially the Japanese – are able to pull together in adversity?

Just an observation: Japan endured the most horrific man-made catastrophe in history.
Perhaps that singular event helped change/mold their perspective and character.
But, I am sure there are many attributing factors which define the collective consciousness of the Japanese people.
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Message 1087023 - Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 16:06:17 UTC
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On the News, Some food stores in Japan are sold out of food, They showed bare shelves. Also at least one of the fisheries ships caught fire and may have sunk.
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Message 1087024 - Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 16:12:38 UTC
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A few minutes ago i have read that 72,945 Buildings are destroyed.
I wonder how they count it so exactly...

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Message 1087025 - Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 16:25:52 UTC - in response to Message 1087024.  

A few minutes ago i have read that 72,945 Buildings are destroyed.
I wonder how they count it so exactly...

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Satellites and Computers maybe, Otherwise I have no idea.
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Message 1087029 - Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 16:33:30 UTC - in response to Message 1087024.  

A few minutes ago i have read that 72,945 Buildings are destroyed.
I wonder how they count it so exactly...

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Well, when whole towns are destroyed you just check to see how many buildings were in that town then count the extra buildings outside. Doesn't take long to come up with a total that is way too high but accurate.



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Message 1087032 - Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 16:50:58 UTC

And also most countrys do have a census. Even though we hate filling the things out they do have a purpose.
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Message 1087033 - Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 16:52:18 UTC

All three reactors may be in melt down!
Officals say reactors meltdown likely.
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Message 1087044 - Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 17:55:33 UTC

If you are so inclined, now would be a good time to pray for all those who survived the initial disaster.

If authorities cannot regain control of the nuclear facilities, this is going to get even worse.

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Message 1087046 - Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 18:00:43 UTC

Uuh...the third Reactor looks more damaged than the first one:



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Message 1087058 - Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 18:14:41 UTC - in response to Message 1087044.  
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If authorities cannot regain control of the nuclear facilities, this is going to get even worse.


Having worked with Pressurized Water Reactors for 16 of my 20 years in the Navy, and having a certain level of familiarity with the Boiling Water Reactor design of the Fukushima Dai-ichi reactors, I must disagree. The reactors ARE under control, and the operators are managing the situation very well, all things considered.

That the reactors have held up as well as they have, given the unprecidented shocks of a Mag. 8.9 earthquake, and the ensuing tsunami and 6.5-7.0 aftershocks, speaks well of both the design and the response of the operators.

This will NOT be another Chernobyl. Some core damage has occurred, but the reactor cores are still contained. The steam venting is being controlled by the operators. The hydrogen explosions, by all reports I have seen, are outside the reactor containments, but inside the buildings.

The radioactivity in the released steam is low-level and short-lived, and should not be a serious health hazard to anyone exposed to it.

For an article by someone with expertise in these areas, go here.
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