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Message 1086425 - Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 14:38:48 UTC

Quake moved Japanese coast 8 feet; shifted Earth's axis


(CNN) -- The powerful earthquake that unleashed a devastating tsunami Friday appears to have moved the main island of Japan by 8 feet (2.4 meters) and shifted the Earth on its axis.

"At this point, we know that one GPS station moved (8 feet), and we have seen a map from GSI (Geospatial Information Authority) in Japan showing the pattern of shift over a large area is consistent with about that much shift of the land mass," said Kenneth Hudnut, a geophysicist with the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS).

Reports from the National Institute of Geophysics and Volcanology in Italy estimated the 8.9-magnitude quake shifted the planet on its axis by nearly 4 inches (10 centimeters).


There are so far 9,500 missing people according to CNN, I wouldn't be surprised if whole villages/towns had been either totally wiped out or almost as the News said the Tsunami went 3 miles inland.
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Message 1086433 - Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 15:09:05 UTC

There is a book by Italian climber, wood sculptor and writer Mauro Corona which depicts what would happen to our society if we lost any electric power supply. It is titled "La fine del mondo storto" (the end of the wrong world). What is happening in Japan today has reminded me of his book.Corona was born and lives in Erto, one of the mountain villages devastated by the colossal landslide in the artificial lake behind the Vajont dam in 1963. I happened to be there the day after with the rescue teams but could not rescue any of the 2000 victims.
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Message 1086434 - Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 15:10:51 UTC - in response to Message 1086432.  

We won't know for many more days yet of the true cost of all this, but the UK Daily Express has a front page headline "100,000 feared dead".

We've now got all sorts of theories surfacing on the net about this. It is being said that in 8 days the moon will be closer to earth than it has been for 19 years at 221,000 miles away, and also there is one of the Sun's biggest solar storms for many years.

However, seismologists dismiss these notions.



According to the News, Death has been rather Busy, So far the toll is 1300 and the News is changing fast for the moment. 100,000 that's one HELL of a big number, But considering how packed Japan is compared to almost anywhere else in the world, Japan may be lucky if the news doesn't get more Grim, As It seems the Reaper may have struck with a vengeance.
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Message 1086467 - Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 17:18:38 UTC - in response to Message 1086434.  

The japanese are trained to respond to these catastrophes from an early age. They know the earthquakes and tsunamis will come its just when. So they know its best to be prepared. BTW the catastrophe could have been worst. They've created a unique dike and spillway system to handle smaller Tsunamis. If you watch the wave coming ashore you'll see it just crash over the top of one.

I saw pictures of the local airport that was hit. Not 1 plane was left on the ground.

I've not heard anything further about the nuclear plant explosion. THat looked pretty bad.

I also heard about a man in the US getting swept out to sea. Seems he wanted pictures of the wave. He went to the beach and got a free ride. Talk about stupid Darwin award candidates.


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Message 1086470 - Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 17:22:11 UTC

They have extended the evacuation area around one of the plants to 12 miles, they are using sea water to try and cool the core.... This does not sound good.


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Message 1086480 - Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 17:53:11 UTC

"More than 900 people were killed and about 700 were missing, Japanese public broadcaster NHK reported. The number of dead is expected to rise as rescuers reach more hard-hit areas.

In the town of Minamisanriku, 9,500 people are unaccounted for, Japan's Kyodo News Agency reported, citing local officials. That figure is more than half the population of the town, which is located on the Pacific, the news agency said.

More than 3,000 people had been rescued, according to Japanese Prime Minister Naoto Kan, Kyodo News Agency said.

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Message 1086493 - Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 18:33:15 UTC

I am proud to report that the Orchestra of Maggio Musicale Fiorentino, in tournee in Japan, has decided to stay there and give all planned concerts.
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Message 1086504 - Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 19:15:48 UTC

They are passing out iodine tablets in Japan. The idea being this substance passes quickly through the body and takes a lot of radiation out with it.

Side note: The Japanese have another substance high in iodine and readily available called "Miso". This is largely attributed to having helped so many
survive nuclear radiation in the past. It is a fermented soy based paste,
and tablespoon or two makes a really interesting soup.


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Message 1086505 - Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 19:24:44 UTC

Iodine is given to saturate the thyroid so it won't absorb radioactive iodine. If given tho children in form of sweets it can save their life.
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Message 1086514 - Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 20:08:41 UTC - in response to Message 1086509.  

When we were kids my mother would put iodine on our cuts and scrapes. We called it "red stuff". The sting from it was so terrifying to us that we would try to hide our little accidents from her.
I think I like the idea of radiation protection in the form of soup.
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Message 1086518 - Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 20:22:25 UTC - in response to Message 1086504.  
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They are passing out iodine tablets in Japan. The idea being this substance passes quickly through the body and takes a lot of radiation out with it.

Side note: The Japanese have another substance high in iodine and readily available called "Miso". This is largely attributed to having helped so many
survive nuclear radiation in the past. It is a fermented soy based paste,
and tablespoon or two makes a really interesting soup.


I've heard of Miso soup, But then I've never had any.
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Message 1086519 - Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 20:25:49 UTC - in response to Message 1086518.  
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Very common in Japanese restraunts.
Typical recipes include tofu, flaked bonito, green onion

Tasty. A bit heavy in MSG but I doubt that is a major concern right now.
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Message 1086520 - Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 20:27:34 UTC

Well if the powerstation goes I'll be taking the kids out for some Miso soup before the radioactive cloud hits.
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Message 1086522 - Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 20:32:57 UTC - in response to Message 1086519.  



Very common in Japanese restraunts.
Typical recipes include tofu, flaked bonito, green onion

Tasty. A bit heavy in MSG but I doubt that is a major concern right now.

It sounds like a dish best served HOT... ;)
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Message 1086524 - Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 20:41:10 UTC - in response to Message 1086522.  

It s times like this when it is easy to see why people like to post in here.
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Message 1086626 - Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 2:06:40 UTC

Looks like all three reactors are in danger and one has already suffered a partial melt down. At this point it's almost tied with 3 mile islands and I expect it will be approaching Chernobyl pretty soon.
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Message 1086634 - Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 2:33:42 UTC - in response to Message 1086626.  
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Looks like all three reactors are in danger and one has already suffered a partial melt down. At this point it's almost tied with 3 mile islands and I expect it will be approaching Chernobyl pretty soon.

The News said the core was intact, As the explosion didn't expose vessel where the rods are at and that their pumping sea water in there to help cool the vessel and that seems to be working. It was an old bunch of reactors that were scheduled in 2 weeks to be taken offline permanently as their just too old to run. In any case It was just an outer building and that might have been just steam. And radioactivity levels since the explosion have been going down.

Oh and No one beyond Russia used Chernobyl type reactors as their just too dangerous and are obsolete now as they use graphite as moderators as the wiki here says. Also flammable Bitumen was used at Chernobyl as part of the roof and there was no containment building as the higher ups in the party felt It wasn't needed as Soviet designs were Superior as far as they were concerned.
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Message 1086635 - Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 2:37:39 UTC

The day the Chernobyl cloud passed over Italy I was visiting the Euratom site ad Ispra and, as a rule, I was given a small nuclear radiation detector to monitor any radiation I might receive. I had to give it back while exiting the site, so I never knew how much radiation I had absorbed that day.
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Message 1086636 - Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 2:59:21 UTC - in response to Message 1086635.  
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The day the Chernobyl cloud passed over Italy I was visiting the Euratom site ad Ispra and, as a rule, I was given a small nuclear radiation detector to monitor any radiation I might receive. I had to give it back while exiting the site, so I never knew how much radiation I had absorbed that day.
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Of course there is a difference between Chernobyl and Fukushima I, Chernobyl was man made as Disasters go, And Fukushima I is a real accident that may not have been adequately protected from a Tsunami by a 35' tall sea wall. But We'll see as some of the reactors there were built back in 1967 and are probably obsolete now. This doesn't mean all there are due to be shut down, Just the older ones.
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