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kittyman ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51583 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004
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Well, the Frozen 920 has been getting a little more than enough work landed to keep going and build a little cache. Frankly, I am a little surprised there has not been much of a chink in the Cricket graph yet..... But I did notice whilst monitoring downloads that some of the work it has been crunching over the last 24 hours seems to be of rather short duration. So we might be fighting a shorty storm at the same time we are trying to overcome the effects of the outage. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."
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kittyman ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51583 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004
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Well, the Frozen 920 has been getting a little more than enough work landed to keep going and build a little cache. Frankly, I am a little surprised there has not been much of a chink in the Cricket graph yet..... But I did notice whilst monitoring downloads that some of the work it has been crunching over the last 24 hours seems to be of rather short duration. So we might be fighting a shorty storm at the same time we are trying to overcome the effects of the outage. Also have noticed a fair number of 'lost task' resends. I honestly don't know where the kitties hid them. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."
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Richard Haselgrove ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14690 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874
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Yes, I'm seeing some shorties in the mix, mostly from the 26au10 and 28au10 recordings, but some from 31jl10aa have crept in recently. I wouldn't call it a shorty 'storm', because there's a good mix of recordings going through the splitters at the same time. But yes - they'll certainly add to the delay before the Crickets pause for breath. You'll be seeing 'resent lost result', where a few months ago you would have seen a Ghost WU - and we all know how much chaos they caused. Be grateful for the resends - not least because they are only possible thanks to the extra capabilities of Oscar and Carolyn. |
kittyman ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51583 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004
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Yes, I'm seeing some shorties in the mix, mostly from the 26au10 and 28au10 recordings, but some from 31jl10aa have crept in recently. Oh, don't get me wrong.... I think being able to resend lost tasks is a wonderful thing. I would rather get them back and crunch them up rather than having them spend the extra time in the database waiting to expire before being sent out again! I just can't get the kitties to tell me what they did with them. LOL. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."
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Cosmic_Ocean Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13
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During my luck of the draw for getting APs the other day, I saw for the first time, "resent lost tasks." Three APs. That's the first time ever that I've had what would have been ghosts. Love that new feature, because now my consecutive valid tasks won't reset. :D Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 14013 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304
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Although the network traffic is still pegged, things are certainly improving. For the first day, No Work available was the usual response once a Scheduler request went through- and most times they didn't. When downloading it often took multiple attempts before a file would start to download & it would often take several re-tries before it would finish downloading. And then it was lucky if it was much more than a couple of kB/s. Now the Scheduler requests rarely don't go through, work is allocated on most of them, and downloads are almost up to 10kB/s & only a couple of re-tries before they start downloading. Grant Darwin NT |
ccappel Send message Joined: 27 Jan 00 Posts: 362 Credit: 1,516,412 RAC: 0
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Not me, AP tasks still getting multiple restarts, and currently I have 0.32KBps download speed and a total elapsed time of almost an hour on one task, which has been accumulating off and on for a total Progress of about 35%. "Life is a tragedy for those who feel, and a comedy for those who think." "I never get into an argument that I cannot win."
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Lint trap Send message Joined: 30 May 03 Posts: 871 Credit: 28,092,319 RAC: 0
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@Richard: Any possibility that other download errors could be resent, too? I had one download that resulted in a "MD5 check failed" about two days ago. I suppose the cause was a transmission error and not a hd error here. First time I've ever seen this one, and I don't recall any discussion in the forums, so I don't imagine resending MD5 errors would put much additional load on the servers. Martin |
JohnDK ![]() Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 1222 Credit: 451,243,443 RAC: 1,127
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I've filled my cache, MBs & APs, on both PCs with only a few clicks on retry. |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34694 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80
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Lucky you i´m fighting for 2 days to download my 116 APs in queue. CPU will run dry tonight. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
Richard Haselgrove ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14690 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874
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@Richard: Highly unlikely, I would think. "Ghost WU", and "resent lost result" are two sides of the same coin. They both describe the same thing: the server thinks your computer has the WU (we put it in the post, honest), but your computer has never heard of it (must have got lost in the post, then). In your case, the parcel arrived, but got damaged in transit - the precious vase is in smithereens. That needs an insurance claim, rather than sending the post-boy round the mailroom to find the original package slipped down behind the filing cabinet. Or something like that. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 38649 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489
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No problems here as all 3 of my PC's now have full caches. :D Cheers. |
Lint trap Send message Joined: 30 May 03 Posts: 871 Credit: 28,092,319 RAC: 0
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@Richard: Yep, probably so. "Ghost WU", and "resent lost result" are two sides of the same coin. They both describe the same thing: the server thinks your computer has the WU (we put it in the post, honest), but your computer has never heard of it (must have got lost in the post, then). is there that much difference between getting lost in the post or being trashed by the post? It's not a problem. Thanks. Martin |
Dirk Sadowski Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5
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18-Feb-2011 04:33:48 [SETI@home] MD5 check failed for 24ap10aa.32197.12910.13.10.62 18-Feb-2011 04:33:48 [SETI@home] expected xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, got xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 18-Feb-2011 04:33:48 [SETI@home] Checksum or signature error for 24ap10aa.32197.12910.13.10.62 [UTC] http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1805283483 IIRC, never saw this before.
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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 14013 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304
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is there that much difference between getting lost in the post or being trashed by the post? If it got lost, there's no record of it. If it got trashed, the evidence of it's existence is there. Grant Darwin NT |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6498 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0
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Well.. it will clear on its own eventually, But from what I have seen the network throughput could be effectively increased a great deal by "throttling back" the number and/or speed of the downloads. Whether it is done by increasing backoff or limiting the number of virtual connections, does not really matter. But the saturated link does seem to be counter productive. Janice |
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Cosmic_Ocean Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13
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Looks like the AP splitters have juuuust about chewed through the tapes. Maybe we'll see the first not-maxed interval in cricket soon. Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 14013 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304
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The network traffic must be close to subsiding, i'm now getting downloads at more than 10kB/s. A couple have even made it down at 30kB/s. Grant Darwin NT |
Dr Grey Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 154 Credit: 104,147,344 RAC: 21
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Yes, they're coming through now. Last night my cache size doubled and I'm watching them come in at up to 35 kBps. The cricket graph is still showing a sea of green but I don't think it will be long before gaps start to show. Maybe tonight it will be time to increase my cache size up from three days to ten. |
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-BeNt- Send message Joined: 17 Oct 99 Posts: 1234 Credit: 10,116,112 RAC: 0
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Yup seeing the same thing this morning, coming down at 30-35kbps slowing some to 25kbps. Now if I can get the caches stabilized on both my machines I would be happy. For some reason one machine will not pull the amount of work it used too. Irritating but hopefully works itself out. Traveling through space at ~67,000mph! |
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