hey guys!

guess i need your help with my app_info.xml file to get the beta running.
right now it looks like this:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
<app_info>
<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>603</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>505</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

the files i got from Raistmer i placed into my SETI folder...not sure if i was right to do so.
aswell the ATI optimized files like:

beta files:
MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_HD5_r177.exe
MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_r177.exe
MultiBeam_Kernels.cl

ATI files from Lunatics:
ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r456.exe
AstroPulse_Kernels.cl

my proc is an amd 5200+ and my graphic card is a gigabyte radeon 6850 OC.
doubt there are many with the new amd cards from the 6xxx series yet that have boinc running.

if anyone can help me with it or needs more info about my sytem i would be glad if i can get this running.
i have no lunatics forum account so this is my only way to get some help. Sutaru cant help me with it cause he is all nvidia^^

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First two units successful completed :)
ar=0.99 ~21min
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1759173464
and
ar=0.42 ~38min
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1759173354
using 10.11 APP, SDK 2.2, ATI 5750, MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_HD5_r177

Here is the part for MB ATI
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62190&nowrap=true#1059913

and here you can find instructions for AP ATI
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/12-gpu-crunching/astropulse-for-ati-gpus-released.msg31201.html#msg31201

hey guys!

guess i need your help with my app_info.xml file to get the beta running.
right now it looks like this:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
<app_info>
<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>603</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>505</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

the files i got from Raistmer i placed into my SETI folder...not sure if i was right to do so.
aswell the ATI optimized files like:

beta files:
MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_HD5_r177.exe
MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_r177.exe
MultiBeam_Kernels.cl

ATI files from Lunatics:
ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r456.exe
AstroPulse_Kernels.cl

my proc is an amd 5200+ and my graphic card is a gigabyte radeon 6850 OC.
doubt there are many with the new amd cards from the 6xxx series yet that have boinc running.

if anyone can help me with it or needs more info about my sytem i would be glad if i can get this running.
i have no lunatics forum account so this is my only way to get some help. Sutaru cant help me with it cause he is all nvidia^^

what GPU are you running?

you'll need to at least add those files to your seti@home folder where your app_info is. you'll also need to get the app_info from lunatics and add it to your current app_info

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

hey guys!

guess i need your help with my app_info.xml file to get the beta running.
right now it looks like this:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
<app_info>
<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>603</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>505</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

the files i got from Raistmer i placed into my SETI folder...not sure if i was right to do so.
aswell the ATI optimized files like:

beta files:
MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_HD5_r177.exe
MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_r177.exe
MultiBeam_Kernels.cl

ATI files from Lunatics:
ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r456.exe
AstroPulse_Kernels.cl

my proc is an amd 5200+ and my graphic card is a gigabyte radeon 6850 OC.
doubt there are many with the new amd cards from the 6xxx series yet that have boinc running.

if anyone can help me with it or needs more info about my sytem i would be glad if i can get this running.
i have no lunatics forum account so this is my only way to get some help. Sutaru cant help me with it cause he is all nvidia^^

what GPU are you running?

you'll need to at least add those files to your seti@home folder where your app_info is. you'll also need to get the app_info from lunatics and add it to your current app_info

He have a HD6850, mentioned in the message.. ;-)

That is the problem.
He would like to let run on CPU MB+AP and on this ATI GPU MB+AP.

But after I know now, that AP WUs don't like AMD CPUs, maybe AP only on the GPU.

He got the pure ATI MB app.
He need to DL also the ATI AP app. But, where, which?
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=39
Why different ATI AP apps?

How should look his app_info.xml file?
Like this?

<app_info>
<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>603</version_num>
<flops>xxxxxxxxxx</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r456.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>AstroPulse_Kernels.cl</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>506</version_num>
<flops>xxxxxxxxxx</flops>
<avg_ncpus>0.01</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.01</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<cmdline></cmdline>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r456.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AstroPulse_Kernels.cl</file_name>
<copy_file/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_HD5_r177.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>MultiBeam_Kernels.cl</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>610</version_num>
<flops>xxxxxxxxxx</flops>
<avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<cmdline>-period_iterations_num 2 -instances_per_device 2</cmdline>
<file_ref>
<file_name>MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_HD5_r177.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>MultiBeam_Kernels.cl</file_name>
<copy_file/>
</file_ref>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>0.5</count>
</coproc>
</app_version>
</app_info>

[First without <flops> lines/entries, after 10+ results granted, you could insert flops values.
NC subforum : How to add flops value]

[2 MB WUs/ATI GPU?]


All three apps (CPU - MB, GPU - MB + AP) in the setiathome.berkeley.edu project folder.
Edit of the currently app_info.xml file in the setiathome.berkeley.edu project folder.
Before, stop/finish BOINC complete.


I have no experiences with ATI GPU (apps).
We both have no Lunatics forum account.
So please help for my team mate, thank you in advance.

---

If you have acces to the Lunatics beta tester forums read the posts on this page http://lunatics.kwsn.net/gpu-testing/ati-opencl-multibeam-beta-testing.255.html
One tester is already having problems getting the 6XXX series to run the app. I would suggest not runing the HD5 version since that is specifically made for the 5XXX series ati cards. try using the non HD5 and see if you can get it to work.

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

If you have acces to the Lunatics beta tester forums read the posts on this page http://lunatics.kwsn.net/gpu-testing/ati-opencl-multibeam-beta-testing.255.html
One tester is already having problems getting the 6XXX series to run the app. I would suggest not runing the HD5 version since that is specifically made for the 5XXX series ati cards. try using the non HD5 and see if you can get it to work.

No, we both have no Lunatics forum account (already mentioned ;-), so we can't read the BETA area there.. ;-)

So you mean he should use the following apps/files:
CPU:
AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD.exe

ATI GPU:
MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_r177.exe
MultiBeam_Kernels.cl

ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r456.exe
AstroPulse_Kernels.cl

..and this app_info.xml file:
<app_info>
<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>603</version_num>
<flops>xxxxxxxxxx</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r456.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>AstroPulse_Kernels.cl</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>506</version_num>
<flops>xxxxxxxxxx</flops>
<avg_ncpus>0.01</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.01</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<cmdline></cmdline>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r456.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AstroPulse_Kernels.cl</file_name>
<copy_file/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_r177.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>MultiBeam_Kernels.cl</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>610</version_num>
<flops>xxxxxxxxxx</flops>
<avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<cmdline>-period_iterations_num 2 -instances_per_device 2</cmdline>
<file_ref>
<file_name>MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_r177.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>MultiBeam_Kernels.cl</file_name>
<copy_file/>
</file_ref>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>0.5</count>
</coproc>
</app_version>
</app_info>

[And 2 MB WUs/ATI GPU?]


Thanks!

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a 6XXX series ATI should be able to handle 2MB at a time as long as he's not getting errors its not a problem

IIRC Raistmer mentioned that the AP isnt setup to run 2 AP at a time yet

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

Sutaru, you really should have your teammate contact Raistmer, Gecko, or JasonG to get into the Lunatic's forum. We really aren't supposed to give out the Beta stuff until it is ready to release to the general public. They are much better prepared to handle any problems that might pop up using their beta stuff.

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PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC

app_info.xml has generally common structure no matter what devices app uses.
If one experienced enough with app_info for NV GPU one can rather easely gather app_info for ATi GPU, especially if needed section already posted just in this thread.

Some notes:
1) flops field can be ommitted completely
2) important difference with NV app is additional field that describes behavior (copy iy into each slot directory) for CL file that contains most of app OpenCL code in text form. This file missed for current CUDA-based NV app so it's worth to pay attention to posted app_info section example.
3) another additional field describes app command line parameters. This one also missed for NV CUDA-based app, but can be omitted for ATi app to if card owner has no intentions to change default values.

Here I post complete app_info for my own host (Q9450+HD4870 running x86 Vista) in hope it will be good example for how to construct app_info files.

<app_info>
	<app>
		<name>astropulse_v505</name>
	</app>
	<file_info>
        	<name>ap_5.06_x86_SSE2_Brook_OpenCL_ATI_r449.exe</name>
        	<executable/>
    	</file_info>
	<file_info>
	    <name>AstroPulse_Kernels.cl</name>
	    <executable/>
	</file_info>
 <app_version>
        <app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
        <version_num>505</version_num>
        <platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
        <avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.20</max_ncpus>
        <plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
	<flops>30987654321</flops>
             <file_ref>
                  <file_name>ap_5.06_x86_SSE2_Brook_OpenCL_ATI_r449.exe</file_name>
                  <main_program/>                           
           </file_ref>
    <file_ref>
        <file_name>AstroPulse_Kernels.cl</file_name>
        <copy_file/>
    </file_ref>
   <coproc>
   <type>ATI</type>
   <count>1</count>
   </coproc>
 </app_version>
<app>
	<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
	<file_info>
		<name>AK_v8b_win_SSSE3x.exe</name>
		<executable/>
	</file_info>
	<file_info>
		<name>MB_6.08_mod_CUDA_V12_double_triplet_fix_4_11_rebuild.exe</name>
		<executable/>
	</file_info>
	<file_info>
		<name>cudart.dll</name>
		<executable/>
	</file_info>
	<file_info>
		<name>cufft.dll</name>
		<executable/>
	</file_info>

	<file_info>
		<name>MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_r177.exe</name>
			<executable/>
	</file_info>
	<file_info>
		<name>MultiBeam_Kernels.cl</name>
			<executable/>
	</file_info>


<app_version>
	<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
	<version_num>610</version_num>
	<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
	<avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
	<max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus>
	<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
	<cmdline>-period_iterations_num 1 -instances_per_device 1 -hp</cmdline>	
	<flops>20987654321</flops>
	<file_ref>
		<file_name>MB_6.10_win_SSE3_ATI_r177.exe</file_name>
		<main_program/>
	</file_ref>
    <file_ref>
        <file_name>MultiBeam_Kernels.cl</file_name>
        <copy_file/>
    </file_ref>
   <coproc>
   <type>ATI</type>
   <count>1</count>
   </coproc>
</app_version>
<app_version>
	<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
	<version_num>608</version_num>
	<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
	<avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
	<max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus>
	<plan_class>cuda</plan_class>
	<file_ref>
		<file_name>MB_6.08_mod_CUDA_V12_double_triplet_fix_4_11_rebuild.exe</file_name>
		<main_program/>
	</file_ref>
	<file_ref>
	<file_name>cudart.dll</file_name>
		</file_ref>
	<file_ref>
		<file_name>cufft.dll</file_name>
	</file_ref>
	<coproc>
		<type>CUDA</type>
		<count>1</count>
	</coproc>
</app_version>
<app_version>
	<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
	<version_num>603</version_num>
	<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
	<avg_ncpus>1.00</avg_ncpus>
	<max_ncpus>1.00</max_ncpus>
	<file_ref>
		<file_name>AK_v8b_win_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
		<main_program/>
	</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>

Here I post complete app_info for my own host (Q9450+HD4870 running x86 Vista) in hope it will be good example for how to construct app_info files.

And if interested people click the Quote button on Raistmer's post, they'll even get the right indentation ;-)

@Raistmer: If you use [pre][/pre] instead of [code][/code], everybody can see the indentation without using the Quote button.

Gruß,
Gundolf

@Raistmer: If you use [pre][/pre] instead of [code][/code], everybody can see the indentation without using the Quote button.

Gruß,
Gundolf

Thanks for advice, will try to keep it in mind for next post. Unfortunately, time to edit this one already gone.

Sutaru, you really should have your teammate contact Raistmer, Gecko, or JasonG to get into the Lunatic's forum. We really aren't supposed to give out the Beta stuff until it is ready to release to the general public. They are much better prepared to handle any problems that might pop up using their beta stuff.

My team mate got already the ATI MB BETA app from Raistmer.
Without to tell him how to install (also no app_info.xml file).

I thought he prepared him also a Lunatics forum account (which last maybe currently little bit because of the holidays), that my team mate can report the experiences then there..
It's up to the opt. crew, if they want more BETA tester.

(I'm not welcome at the Lunatics forum (account was deleted) - since my CUDA app comparison (with the result that the stock CUDA app is the fastest on my systems (so I guess on all non Fermi GPUs))..
..so I'm now also out of here.)

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Hi,

I have 2 HD5870's in CrossFire, plus an i7-930 that would fom part of the resrouces for such an GPU task. The opratin system is Windows 7 64bit and try to constantly keep my ATI drivers up-to-date, which has caused some issues on other GPU tasks in the past.

Is it possible for me to join this beta test so you can see if the lastest ATI drivers cause issues?

My team mate got already the ATI MB BETA app from Raistmer.
Without to tell him how to install (also no app_info.xml file).

I thought he prepared him also a Lunatics forum account (which last maybe currently little bit because of the holidays), that my team mate can report the experiences then there..
It's up to the opt. crew, if they want more BETA tester.

(I'm not welcome at the Lunatics forum (account was deleted) - since my CUDA app comparison (with the result that the stock CUDA app is the fastest on my systems (so I guess on all non Fermi GPUs))..
..so I'm now also out of here.)

I don't see an issue with posting your testing and results. It's always nice to see a little feedback every now and then as it could spark interest and deeper thought into the optimization on various machines. Or even just a spark to keep everyone reminded that what works best on someone else's machine may not be so good on yours. Oh well their loss I guess?

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Traveling through space at ~67,000mph!

yes well Sutaru is no longer able to post any feedback...besides that he runs pure nvidia machines.

for my part...i got the applications that i put into my seti folder but thats all. i have no clue how to alter my app_info.xml file to get started or even if i was right placing the files i got from Raistmer into my SETI folder.

i got no beta account for the lunatics forum so i cant get any help there...nor get started to give some feedback how the new amd series 6xxx is working with the beta application.

sure...i could go and read tons of threads to figure it out somehow...or...
some people might be so nice with lots of experience already to tell me what to do now.

if it shouldnt be done on this forum just send me a private message and i guess i just give up and wait if this beta will end at some point and it will go live (which i hope)...or die.

crunching on a low CPU pc isnt much fun at all...if you have a good graphic card that would do much better.

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Isamu,
I don't have ATI but this is the app_info Skildude is using, maybe you can figure it out from there.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62190&nowrap=true#1061064

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PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC

Isamu,
I don't have ATI but this is the app_info Skildude is using, maybe you can figure it out from there.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62190&nowrap=true#1061064

since you are running modern AMD CPU's and a new ATI card you should be able to just copy and paste my App_info over yours, restart and it should work. Please note I do have my "count" set to 0.5 on my GPU Multibeam. I suggest setting that to 1 until you are certain that your GPU is working properly then experiment running multiple MB tasks

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

Some info for for HD4xxx owners:

I tried to run 2 tasks at once on my HD4870 GPU. Twice I got computation freeze (but no driver restart). First time it greatly increased elapsed time for tasks (they continue OK after restart), second - both tasks were aborted by BOINC after >9h of elapsed time passed.
So I would not recommend HD4xxx cards owners to run more than single task per such GPU (AFAIK HD4870 is one of fastest GPUs of HD4xxx so other can suffer even more).

Running few tasks at once on HD5xxx and higher can still be benefical.

No problem running two on a 4850 here...The elapsed time was only like 10% less running one. Just checked my host, no errors or invalids.
What times are you seeing on 4870? They run about an hour 30 to an hour 40 minutes here...Exact same times as the CPU, oddly enough. That is with 2 at a time though. Both cpu and gpu are oc'ed...Link to HOST
Should I try to let run only 1? Or is OK as long as it doesn't cause problems?

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