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Message 1046420 - Posted: 6 Nov 2010, 3:49:33 UTC

The one item of information that I have not seen is "When will the new servers arrive?" I understand that the PO has been placed, but there has been no mention of an arrival date or an estimated "On Line" date. Thanks,
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Message 1046429 - Posted: 6 Nov 2010, 5:00:36 UTC - in response to Message 1046420.  

The one item of information that I have not seen is "When will the new servers arrive?" I understand that the PO has been placed, but there has been no mention of an arrival date or an estimated "On Line" date. Thanks,
Dave

The first line of Jeff Cobb's October 28 post on the new server specs reads:

The order is out the door and we expect to have the new machines in hand in 2 weeks.

A little later in from now (Oct 28, 2010) until "new server time" he wrote:

The time line we are looking at is about one month - two weeks for the servers to arrive and another two to get them going. We'll see as time goes on whether or not that's too aggressive.
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Message 1046693 - Posted: 7 Nov 2010, 2:32:08 UTC - in response to Message 1046429.  

Thanks much for the information. I just didn't see the specifics in the original posts. Thanks Again.
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Message 1046713 - Posted: 7 Nov 2010, 3:27:26 UTC

ghost resend time maybe?
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Message 1046720 - Posted: 7 Nov 2010, 4:02:30 UTC - in response to Message 1046240.  
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Right on.
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Message 1046788 - Posted: 7 Nov 2010, 11:12:38 UTC

I am quite happy to read that most people are so understanding :)

All in all, I think this outage is good for the project for a great many reasons.

Untill we crunch again ;)

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Message 1047620 - Posted: 11 Nov 2010, 17:39:19 UTC - in response to Message 1045846.  

In the last 2-3 weeks both my pc do not receive any workunit, and then Boinc is not working for seti. Only seti@home does not work. Why? Seti is halted?
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Message 1047623 - Posted: 11 Nov 2010, 17:48:09 UTC

Someone has about 1.5 million WU's looking at server, Must be very slow returning, I run out and my pc is slow
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Message 1047637 - Posted: 11 Nov 2010, 18:36:15 UTC - in response to Message 1047620.  

In the last 2-3 weeks both my pc do not receive any workunit, and then Boinc is not working for seti. Only seti@home does not work. Why? Seti is halted?


Seti has had problems with servers and is offline until 2 new ones come in. They hope to be back online around the end of november.
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Message 1047670 - Posted: 11 Nov 2010, 21:11:45 UTC - in response to Message 1047623.  

Someone has about 1.5 million WU's looking at server, Must be very slow returning, I run out and my pc is slow

Or they are only able to compute for a few hours a day, or they've had PC problems.
Or seti has been "sidelined" by other BOINC projects which give shorter turnaround times - one of my crunchers still has a couple of SETI WU to run, but is quite happy crunching the milkyway at high priority because that project's WU only have a few days turnaround compared to SETI's weeks.
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Message 1047672 - Posted: 11 Nov 2010, 21:32:27 UTC - in response to Message 1047670.  

yes you maybe right i cleared all ny seti before starting new programme
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Message 1047692 - Posted: 11 Nov 2010, 23:11:05 UTC

Just an idea for possibly speeding up the database size reduction: How about distributing more copies of pending results already before they expire? That way the project could utilize some of its current massive overcapacity to add redundancy and thus accelerate the decline in "Results returned and awaiting validation".

Normally the resending of timed-out WUs works in a fairly stretched-out way (timewise). This gives the best resource utilization when the project is up and running - we only resend results that really have timed out and need to be resent.

But these weeks, with capacity to burn, I guess a more parallel work-mode might come in handy. If one or two extra results were distributed already today, and returned tomorrow, then that old result that was sent out in October and times out next week will no longer need to be resent (and thus kept active), because the WU will already have the required quorum of two results and can be finalized.
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Message 1047753 - Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 8:05:49 UTC - in response to Message 1047692.  

But these weeks, with capacity to burn, I guess a more parallel work-mode might come in handy. If one or two extra results were distributed already today, and returned tomorrow, then that old result that was sent out in October and times out next week will no longer need to be resent (and thus kept active), because the WU will already have the required quorum of two results and can be finalized.


This would speed up things a bit but not entirely. WU can not be finalized until quorum has been met and results have been validated and all outstanding WUs have either been reported or timed out. If WUs get re-issued prior to expiration of existing results, WUs would still need to live until all remaining results of same WU expire. But not longer as hopefully there would already be a quorum created by faster crunchers.
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Message 1047826 - Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 16:20:10 UTC

Just a query - while we're waiting for the new servers, how about Beta granting credit for returned WU's? I returned 85 when Beta finally came up, and received another 40 or so from the built-up un-crunched queue - I've been steadily returning those as they've crunched, but my Beta stats line is flat since sometime in September! Or would this be too much on the substitute database server??
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Message 1047840 - Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 17:20:36 UTC - in response to Message 1047826.  
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Just a query - while we're waiting for the new servers, how about Beta granting credit for returned WU's? I returned 85 when Beta finally came up, and received another 40 or so from the built-up un-crunched queue - I've been steadily returning those as they've crunched, but my Beta stats line is flat since sometime in September! Or would this be too much on the substitute database server??



Now that you mention it, I've crunched a few hundred MB WU's and got some new work, afew days ago, too.
But haven't seen any credit update, since 2 month's.
Well with the weekend ahead, it'll be monday or later ;-)

Hmmm could be updated already, try to check.
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Message 1048083 - Posted: 13 Nov 2010, 5:39:27 UTC - in response to Message 1047826.  

My Beta stats line is flat since sometime in September! Or would this be too much on the substitute database server??

Beta validators are off at Beta there are 43,610 waiting validation as of 13 Nov 2010 4:48:08 UTC. data-driven web pages & vote_monitor are the only things running
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Message 1048174 - Posted: 13 Nov 2010, 17:11:37 UTC - in response to Message 1048083.  

My Beta stats line is flat since sometime in September! Or would this be too much on the substitute database server??

Beta validators are off at Beta there are 43,610 waiting validation as of 13 Nov 2010 4:48:08 UTC. data-driven web pages & vote_monitor are the only things running


The "waiting for validation" number is the number of WU's that have been returned by one cruncher and are waiting for a wingman's result...
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Message 1048187 - Posted: 13 Nov 2010, 18:05:00 UTC - in response to Message 1048174.  

My Beta stats line is flat since sometime in September! Or would this be too much on the substitute database server??

Beta validators are off at Beta there are 43,610 waiting validation as of 13 Nov 2010 4:48:08 UTC. data-driven web pages & vote_monitor are the only things running

The "waiting for validation" number is the number of WU's that have been returned by one cruncher and are waiting for a wingman's result...

Things are a bit different at Beta.

I think a lot more of it is running than the server status page would suggest - certainly the scheduler is up - but that doesn't include splitters (no new work). And as Speedy says, the validators haven't run since the project was brought back up on the 3rd. November, or thereabouts. So 'pending' includes WUs which have both tasks returned already.
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Message 1048189 - Posted: 13 Nov 2010, 18:12:01 UTC - in response to Message 1048187.  

I think to clear work that is out will take 40 - 50 days at the rate its coming in
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Message 1048246 - Posted: 13 Nov 2010, 23:03:22 UTC

I keep looking. Any boxes yet?
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