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David J. Moritz Send message Joined: 15 Aug 99 Posts: 21 Credit: 2,542,037 RAC: 0 |
The one item of information that I have not seen is "When will the new servers arrive?" I understand that the PO has been placed, but there has been no mention of an arrival date or an estimated "On Line" date. Thanks, Dave David Moritz |
Josef W. Segur Send message Joined: 30 Oct 99 Posts: 4504 Credit: 1,414,761 RAC: 0 |
The one item of information that I have not seen is "When will the new servers arrive?" I understand that the PO has been placed, but there has been no mention of an arrival date or an estimated "On Line" date. Thanks, The first line of Jeff Cobb's October 28 post on the new server specs reads: The order is out the door and we expect to have the new machines in hand in 2 weeks. A little later in from now (Oct 28, 2010) until "new server time" he wrote: The time line we are looking at is about one month - two weeks for the servers to arrive and another two to get them going. We'll see as time goes on whether or not that's too aggressive. Joe |
David J. Moritz Send message Joined: 15 Aug 99 Posts: 21 Credit: 2,542,037 RAC: 0 |
Thanks much for the information. I just didn't see the specifics in the original posts. Thanks Again. David Moritz |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
ghost resend time maybe? Janice |
Big Bang Send message Joined: 7 Jan 10 Posts: 670 Credit: 28,481 RAC: 0 |
Right on. |
S@NL - Eesger - www.knoop.nl Send message Joined: 7 Oct 01 Posts: 385 Credit: 50,200,038 RAC: 0 |
I am quite happy to read that most people are so understanding :) All in all, I think this outage is good for the project for a great many reasons. Untill we crunch again ;) Eesger The SETI@Home Gauntlet 2012 april 16 - 30| info / chat | STATS |
Marco Motta Send message Joined: 2 Feb 10 Posts: 1 Credit: 1,099,698 RAC: 2 |
In the last 2-3 weeks both my pc do not receive any workunit, and then Boinc is not working for seti. Only seti@home does not work. Why? Seti is halted? |
platium Send message Joined: 5 Jul 10 Posts: 212 Credit: 262,426 RAC: 0 |
Someone has about 1.5 million WU's looking at server, Must be very slow returning, I run out and my pc is slow |
B-Man Send message Joined: 11 Feb 01 Posts: 253 Credit: 147,366 RAC: 0 |
In the last 2-3 weeks both my pc do not receive any workunit, and then Boinc is not working for seti. Only seti@home does not work. Why? Seti is halted? Seti has had problems with servers and is offline until 2 new ones come in. They hope to be back online around the end of november. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22456 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Someone has about 1.5 million WU's looking at server, Must be very slow returning, I run out and my pc is slow Or they are only able to compute for a few hours a day, or they've had PC problems. Or seti has been "sidelined" by other BOINC projects which give shorter turnaround times - one of my crunchers still has a couple of SETI WU to run, but is quite happy crunching the milkyway at high priority because that project's WU only have a few days turnaround compared to SETI's weeks. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
platium Send message Joined: 5 Jul 10 Posts: 212 Credit: 262,426 RAC: 0 |
yes you maybe right i cleared all ny seti before starting new programme |
Oddbjornik Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 220 Credit: 349,610,548 RAC: 1,728 |
Just an idea for possibly speeding up the database size reduction: How about distributing more copies of pending results already before they expire? That way the project could utilize some of its current massive overcapacity to add redundancy and thus accelerate the decline in "Results returned and awaiting validation". Normally the resending of timed-out WUs works in a fairly stretched-out way (timewise). This gives the best resource utilization when the project is up and running - we only resend results that really have timed out and need to be resent. But these weeks, with capacity to burn, I guess a more parallel work-mode might come in handy. If one or two extra results were distributed already today, and returned tomorrow, then that old result that was sent out in October and times out next week will no longer need to be resent (and thus kept active), because the WU will already have the required quorum of two results and can be finalized. |
Metod, S56RKO Send message Joined: 27 Sep 02 Posts: 309 Credit: 113,221,277 RAC: 9 |
But these weeks, with capacity to burn, I guess a more parallel work-mode might come in handy. If one or two extra results were distributed already today, and returned tomorrow, then that old result that was sent out in October and times out next week will no longer need to be resent (and thus kept active), because the WU will already have the required quorum of two results and can be finalized. This would speed up things a bit but not entirely. WU can not be finalized until quorum has been met and results have been validated and all outstanding WUs have either been reported or timed out. If WUs get re-issued prior to expiration of existing results, WUs would still need to live until all remaining results of same WU expire. But not longer as hopefully there would already be a quorum created by faster crunchers. Metod ... |
KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 3187 Credit: 57,163,290 RAC: 0 |
Just a query - while we're waiting for the new servers, how about Beta granting credit for returned WU's? I returned 85 when Beta finally came up, and received another 40 or so from the built-up un-crunched queue - I've been steadily returning those as they've crunched, but my Beta stats line is flat since sometime in September! Or would this be too much on the substitute database server?? . Hello, from Albany, CA!... |
Fred J. Verster Send message Joined: 21 Apr 04 Posts: 3252 Credit: 31,903,643 RAC: 0 |
Just a query - while we're waiting for the new servers, how about Beta granting credit for returned WU's? I returned 85 when Beta finally came up, and received another 40 or so from the built-up un-crunched queue - I've been steadily returning those as they've crunched, but my Beta stats line is flat since sometime in September! Or would this be too much on the substitute database server?? Now that you mention it, I've crunched a few hundred MB WU's and got some new work, afew days ago, too. But haven't seen any credit update, since 2 month's. Well with the weekend ahead, it'll be monday or later ;-) Hmmm could be updated already, try to check. |
Speedy Send message Joined: 26 Jun 04 Posts: 1643 Credit: 12,921,799 RAC: 89 |
My Beta stats line is flat since sometime in September! Or would this be too much on the substitute database server?? Beta validators are off at Beta there are 43,610 waiting validation as of 13 Nov 2010 4:48:08 UTC. data-driven web pages & vote_monitor are the only things running |
KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 3187 Credit: 57,163,290 RAC: 0 |
My Beta stats line is flat since sometime in September! Or would this be too much on the substitute database server?? The "waiting for validation" number is the number of WU's that have been returned by one cruncher and are waiting for a wingman's result... . Hello, from Albany, CA!... |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14674 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
My Beta stats line is flat since sometime in September! Or would this be too much on the substitute database server?? Things are a bit different at Beta. I think a lot more of it is running than the server status page would suggest - certainly the scheduler is up - but that doesn't include splitters (no new work). And as Speedy says, the validators haven't run since the project was brought back up on the 3rd. November, or thereabouts. So 'pending' includes WUs which have both tasks returned already. |
platium Send message Joined: 5 Jul 10 Posts: 212 Credit: 262,426 RAC: 0 |
I think to clear work that is out will take 40 - 50 days at the rate its coming in |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
I keep looking. Any boxes yet? Janice |
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