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Message 1044936 - Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 4:43:07 UTC

My 3 comps are dry and have reported all their work, which means I can go. No need to flame me, I just wanted to say goodbye to those who know me.

As a last word maybe: It irritates me to no end when people through creative manipulation of program parameters still have 40 days worth of work while others can't get any work, and then brag around with it.

Over and out.

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Message 1044938 - Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 4:47:15 UTC - in response to Message 1044936.  

11 Years..A LOoong time.
Check back later and you might just return.
Later.

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Message 1044965 - Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 7:50:54 UTC - in response to Message 1044960.  
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... you might want to change your mind.



...and you will not be the first. ;-)

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Message 1044974 - Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 8:08:10 UTC

Look back in about 6 weeks, when the new servers are up and running and, hopefully, stable. There should be much crunching for you to recommendce on.
It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues



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Message 1044983 - Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 9:14:29 UTC

Sorry to see you go.

But what has happened anyway?

They are trying to run a huge project on outdated and outclassed hardware. Mork was the best server by far, but it's reliability issues meant that it was reduced to the level or lower, of the other servers.

Jocelyn is at least 5 years old, and just can't cope on her own.

Have a look in a month or so, you might want to return.

If not, good luck in all you do. Your participation will be missed.

Giz.



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Message 1044997 - Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 12:51:58 UTC - in response to Message 1044936.  

As a last word maybe: It irritates me to no end when people through creative manipulation of program parameters still have 40 days worth of work while others can't get any work, and then brag around with it.


Which explains the rational behind not allowing us to see the data on our own computers. We might be able to work out who is still crunching, uploading and reporting tasks at this late date.

Perhaps now would be a good time to enforce a new minimum version of Boinc which would not allow more than the recomended max cache under any circumstances.

Not worth saying goodbye over though. Reduced electric bills though.....that may be reason enough to say goodbye!
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Message 1045049 - Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 17:41:45 UTC

oh noes
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Message 1045056 - Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 18:17:57 UTC - in response to Message 1044936.  

As a last word maybe: It irritates me to no end when people through creative manipulation of program parameters still have 40 days worth of work while others can't get any work, and then brag around with it.

Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

Their 166 MHz 386 might just have one work unit that will take 40 days to complete.


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Message 1045084 - Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 19:49:51 UTC

<Mutters something about there never having been a 166MHz 386, then scarpers>
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Message 1045089 - Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 20:01:23 UTC - in response to Message 1045084.  

<Mutters something about there never having been a 166MHz 386, then scarpers>

it was obviously overclocked.....
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Message 1045110 - Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 21:38:14 UTC - in response to Message 1044997.  

Perhaps now would be a good time to enforce a new minimum version of Boinc which would not allow more than the recomended max cache under any circumstances.

Well, the only BOINC-clients that's "enforced" any limits on #days to cache is the v5.8.xx-series of clients, so instead of a minimum client-version, you'll need to enforce a maximum client-version instead.

But for obvious reasons (like no CUDA-support) denying later clients won't really be an option.


The "recommended" max cache-size has always been to take the shortest deadline-tasks of any of your attached project, and divide by #projects. Very few seems to follow this recommendation, and no BOINC-client has taken this into consideration.

Also, if the point of a large cache is to handle unexpected outages (like SETI-servers going down), it's never been any point of caching more than 1/2 the shortest deadline, since any larger cache just means some of the work will not be returned by the deadline if there is an outage.

The v5.8.xx-clients enforces this rule, since if you sets your cache-size larger than 1/2 the deadline (*), all work will run in EDF-mode, and work-request is blocked until client not in EDF-mode any longer, or you've got an idle cpu.

v5.10.xx didn't enforce this rule, but also blocks work-request if in EDF-mode. With the v6-clients on the other hand, even if you run some tasks HP, client can still continue asking for work.

So, with a v6-client you can actually set a larger cache-size and still download work, than you could with a v5-client...


(*) Actually less than 1/2 the deadline, since the v5.8.xx-clients uses a 10% safety-margin on estimated run-time, and on top of this an extra 1-day extra safety-margin.

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Message 1045120 - Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 22:30:34 UTC

I just have my machines set to 50% SETI and 50% Rosetta. When SETI comes back, I'll change that. In the meantime, finish the SETI WUs that actually downloaded and don't worry. This isn't a life and death situation.
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Message 1045197 - Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 7:30:03 UTC

Why are people so wound up about this, it isn't a race it's a science experiment. Who care who has more work units, out dated clients etc. It all needs crunching who gives a rats tail who does it!! Well at least until we find something ;)

Good luck and best of luck to you, but if it was a simple good bye you would have left out the "cheating" accusations / drama.
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Message 1045297 - Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 20:54:07 UTC
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Moving this to the Cafe'. Does not belong in NC.
Now on with the show.
I NEED WU's...RAC IS FALLING,AAARRrrrrrggggggghhhhhh...Gotta have My Fix. GASP, CAN'T BREATHE, Choke, Gag...WHO has a Paper BAG? Helllppp! 8-b....

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Message 1045314 - Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 21:32:22 UTC - in response to Message 1045270.  
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Gaming, is already listed as being addictive for many people.

And probably 'RAC-Hunting', too :)
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Message 1045317 - Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 22:03:13 UTC - in response to Message 1045314.  

Gaming is addicting. Sex is addicting. Drugs are addicting. BOINC is addicting. Eating is an addiction for many. Gambling is addicting.

It's not that all these things themselves are addicting. It's people with addictive personalities. It doesn't matter the pastime, it matters if the person is able to do it in moderation.

I can say this as a person with an addictive personality. One of the few reasons why I don't drink very often. At least my gaming addiction doesn't turn me into a jerk like alcohol can/has.
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Message 1045336 - Posted: 1 Nov 2010, 0:20:26 UTC
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It irritates me to no end when people through creative manipulation of program parameters still have 40 days worth of work while others can't get any work, and then brag around with it.

That used to happen on LHC all the time. Work was sporadic and people would hog as much as possible whenever it became available. It is very annoying but if you just stay away from the forums it is easier to put up with. I rarely read these boards or any others but my comps keep chomping away. My new one is really going to town.

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Message 1045337 - Posted: 1 Nov 2010, 0:26:13 UTC - in response to Message 1045317.  

Gaming is addicting. Sex is addicting. Drugs are addicting. BOINC is addicting. Eating is an addiction for many. Gambling is addicting.

It's not that all these things themselves are addicting. It's people with addictive personalities. It doesn't matter the pastime, it matters if the person is able to do it in moderation.

I can say this as a person with an addictive personality. One of the few reasons why I don't drink very often. At least my gaming addiction doesn't turn me into a jerk like alcohol can/has.

I hear breathing is the oldest addiction, No one can live without It. :D
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Message 1045340 - Posted: 1 Nov 2010, 0:32:09 UTC

I think 'addiction' doesn't apply at all. It's a hobby, and just because you enjoy it and get engrossed in it, that doesn't make it addictive at all. Obsessed maybe, and quite a complicated hobby to get into; the use of the computer, the choice of which projects you get into, making sure you maximize your resources and not have your PC's sitting idle looking for work that the clever ones have managed to grab. Being clever and managing to grab all that work to keep you going and finding ways to display your worthless credits in a signature. Let's face it, whats the point of having expensive top of the range computer kit if you have nothing but games to play with it. Now then, computer games - they are addictive, for sure.

Addiction - The condition of being habitually or compulsively occupied with or or involved in something

Oh yea, Boinc is addictive.


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Message 1045942 - Posted: 4 Nov 2010, 3:41:35 UTC

You started about the same time as I did. Sure hate seeing you go after all these years of crunching.

Sometimes a man's/woman's got to do what they've got to do. Still hate seeing all the old-timers leaving. I'll hold down the fort in case you decide to come back.
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