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MarkJ Send message Joined: 17 Feb 08 Posts: 1139 Credit: 80,854,192 RAC: 5 |
I'm with the other guys here and would suggest allowing uploads, reporting and if it can cope assimilate/purge. No new work and try and clear the millions of wu out in the field. Once new machines are available you can look at creating work. Thanks for the update. BOINC blog |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
At this point, we are discussing what we will do between now and when the new servers are on line. Work wise, just stay down. Perhaps leave an upload server running and allow work to be reported only through the scheduler. Don't give anything out. The lesser a chance you have on crashing spectacularly again, the better... |
Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4548 Credit: 35,667,570 RAC: 4 |
At this point, we are discussing what we will do between now and when the new servers are on line. I think this is very good advise. I agree with the general sentiment in this thread. that, it's best for the Scientists at SETI@home, to take whatever time they need, to safely, do what they they think, is in the best interests of Science. Best Wishes Byron |
PhonAcq Send message Joined: 14 Apr 01 Posts: 1656 Credit: 30,658,217 RAC: 1 |
Swimming up stream a bit, perhaps this is a chance to learn something. Cut back on wuproduction as far as you can such that the 'system' doesn't crash. I realize there are many variables, but without getting into the weeds just try to see what works on a reduced scale. It will help understand things as they are enabled more fully later, I bet. |
[AF>HFR] asmomo Send message Joined: 11 Feb 02 Posts: 1 Credit: 28,329,644 RAC: 0 |
Is the load really the problem ? I mean, recently with all the hiccups the load has to have gone down, but still the hardware is crashing randomly. |
rebest Send message Joined: 16 Apr 00 Posts: 1296 Credit: 45,357,093 RAC: 0 |
Thanks for the update! Do what you need to do. My systems are happily folding proteins in the meantime. Join the PACK! |
EnsonDeath Send message Joined: 1 Aug 10 Posts: 61 Credit: 2,380,216 RAC: 0 |
thanks for the update i am curious tho Tod Hebert and the rest of the GPU users group has sent Eric and Jeff multiple messages starting on oct 8th about DONATING a FULL OSCAR class Server (actuallu I think some of are specs were better) and never even got a responcei was a little surprised that a 10-15k server donation would have been ignored even if not used for the main it could have definately had a purpose (AKA) KewlGhoul seti classic |
SciManStev Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6652 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 |
I like Jord's suggestion. This way everyone can upload and report their work, and the backlog will begin to clear, ready for a fresh start. Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website |
EnsonDeath Send message Joined: 1 Aug 10 Posts: 61 Credit: 2,380,216 RAC: 0 |
no there were no conditions on it except maybe naming it we just never got any responce we asked them what they wanted plain and simple |
Robert Ribbeck Send message Joined: 7 Jun 02 Posts: 644 Credit: 5,283,174 RAC: 0 |
thanks for the update i am curious tho Tod Hebert and the rest of the GPU users group has sent Eric and Jeff multiple messages starting on oct 8th about Typical They only tell US what they want WHEN they want only need to know And if the don't like what we say They censure us Welcome to the club |
EnsonDeath Send message Joined: 1 Aug 10 Posts: 61 Credit: 2,380,216 RAC: 0 |
id like to think that their email or pms were broken we threw them the offer id think some responce even if a no thanks would have been nice if there pms were broken they may see this in the thread and get back to Tod on our offer |
EnsonDeath Send message Joined: 1 Aug 10 Posts: 61 Credit: 2,380,216 RAC: 0 |
i do wish they would start using us volunteers to a larger capacity i know the right phonecall to Leo Apotheker could have probrobly gotten them both of those servers free as a charitable donation and write off instead of a 20% discount |
Tim Norton Send message Joined: 2 Jun 99 Posts: 835 Credit: 33,540,164 RAC: 0 |
Two things definitely no strings attached to our offer of another server - just a pity we got no reply On the volunteer potential This may have been offered in the past (only been back a few months) but within the SETI community there must be several well qualified DBA's SA, hardware support engineers etc who would be willing to help diagnose what actually is wrong with the servers for free - and i am sure some of those live in the Berkeley area. Also the Uni has a very good computer department that you would have thought would help out in times of need the guys are scientist and should concentrate more on the science than trying to fix things that are not their speciality (i want them to find ET!) - yes they have lots of experience of the servers etc but its a pity they do not appear to communicate with a wider community who actually may understand the problem.... Tim |
ScarabDrowner Send message Joined: 13 Sep 03 Posts: 90 Credit: 456,378 RAC: 0 |
Maybe the offer got lost in transit. Try sending another message. |
Tim Norton Send message Joined: 2 Jun 99 Posts: 835 Credit: 33,540,164 RAC: 0 |
we have had an indirect reply now via "he who cannot be named" and they are waiting till the new servers are up and running first again a pity it needed somebody else to tell us especially as done via email and no pm on the forums Tim |
KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 3187 Credit: 57,163,290 RAC: 0 |
Could someone bring up Beta with the same stipulations as production? (I.E. no new work, upload and reporting only...) There are some of us (me, for one) that have 85± WU that we'd (or at least, I'd) like to upload and report... . Hello, from Albany, CA!... |
Matt Giwer Send message Joined: 21 May 00 Posts: 841 Credit: 990,879 RAC: 0 |
As some have taken a dislike to my posts I will make this post as my last comment on this subject. The Cloud at your Service by Jothy Rosenberg and Arthur Mateos Manning Pub, ISBN 9781935182528 1.2 Benefits that can be garnered from moving to the cloud “I’ll never buy another server again,†said the Director of IT for a medium-sized Software-as-a-Service (SaaS) company, only partially in jest, after recently completing the deployment of a new corporate website for his organization. This website (a PHP based application with a MySQL backend) showcased the corporate brand and the primary online lead-generation capability for the company’s business. Before the overhaul, it was run from a redundant pair of web servers hosted by one of the leading managed-hosting service providers at a total cost of roughly $2,200/month. The company replaced the infrastructure for the original website with a cloud implementation consisting of a pair of virtual server instances running for roughly $250/month—almost a 90 percent savings! Its quality of service (QoS) team monitored the performance and availability of the website before and after the change and saw no measureable difference in the service quality delivered to end users. Buoyed by the success with this initial project, this organization is looking at all future initiatives for the possibility of deployment within the cloud, including a software-build system and offsite backup. Unvarnished Haaretz Jerusalem Post The origin of the Yahweh Cult |
Everseeker Send message Joined: 29 Mar 07 Posts: 8 Credit: 4,818,999 RAC: 0 |
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Bodo Warkentin Send message Joined: 5 Feb 10 Posts: 4 Credit: 22,402,786 RAC: 2 |
Hi, When we get new work units? Two computers are waiting ... "Sat Nov 13 16:42:49 2010|SETI@home|Message from server: Project has no tasks available" :-) |
KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 3187 Credit: 57,163,290 RAC: 0 |
Hi, Read the front page! Current estimate is late November... . Hello, from Albany, CA!... |
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