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![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Apr 08 Posts: 49 Credit: 3,105,422 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Haven't been able to connect in over a week... 9/29/2010 1:21:39 AM SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server 9/29/2010 1:21:57 AM Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 9/29/2010 1:21:58 AM Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. Happens on all of my machines ![]() |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19543 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
Haven't been able to connect in over a week... There was a server failure early last weekend which required more than a quick fix. The Berkeley staff were not able to fix it on Monday and so on Tuesday they decided to do their, now normal, three day shutdown. It is hoped that in this period they have cured the problem and that the upload server will be enabled early Friday (Berkeley time [~16:00 UTC]) and after a suitable time enable reporting, requests and d/loads. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Apr 08 Posts: 49 Credit: 3,105,422 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I imagine once the servers are back up. It will be hectic for at least 3 days with all of the back logged WU's its going to be receiving/sending... 0.o ![]() |
Lionel Send message Joined: 25 Mar 00 Posts: 680 Credit: 563,640,304 RAC: 597 ![]() ![]() |
the servers will be hammered...i have more than 5k wus waiting...plus all the ones waiting for reporting...should be fun |
rtX Send message Joined: 24 Jun 00 Posts: 13 Credit: 2,105,091 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I'm getting very worried about the ongoing sustainability of the project. I have not connected now for well over a week. I have a stack of work units waiting to upload. I've been with SETI@Home for a long time and have never experienced such sustained and continual failures and shut downs as have occurred in recent months - and 'failure' is the appropriate word. I see that when others say this they are attacked by various people who seem to have great sympathy for the project admins. Someone has to say this is not satisfactory. We can pretend that all is well, but it clearly it is not. The repeated failures will not endear potential sponsors to SETI and risk the very future of it. I am saying this as something needs to be done. For every person that says it, there will be between ten and a hundred who do not and who will just drift away. If there was an alternative I would at the very least be sharing my GPU time with it, and I would consider completely 'moving over'. |
![]() Send message Joined: 24 Dec 99 Posts: 19 Credit: 5,056,116 RAC: 1 ![]() |
RTX, No attacks here... and I share some of your frustration, but none of your concern. The outages that we are enduring are due to overdue replacements and upgrades necessary to maintain this project. The admins are a small group that have not been well funded, but changes are being made to the equipment to make the project more robust and ready to expand further. There are many GPU projects to connect with BOINC that would like your assistance. I have chosen to let my GPU rest for the time being, as this is the only processor that runs Seti on my machine. I run CPDN & Rosetta on my CPUs. Cheers! |
rtX Send message Joined: 24 Jun 00 Posts: 13 Credit: 2,105,091 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Hi, thanks for the response. I run World Community Grid, Rosetta and CPDN on my CPUs but have yet to find a GPU project that I want to support and also does not cause massive problems w.r.t. my day-to-day use of the various machines (rendering less than acceptable screen performance). Thanks for your explanation regarding servers, too. I think communication could be much better. I'd like to see some textual explanation on the server status page. At the moment it just says they are down, nothing to explain when they will be back up or much else at all. Communication is at best, poor. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 8 Dec 05 Posts: 630 Credit: 59,973,836 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Reminder to all, don't forget to suspend network activity through the outage. |
kittyman ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51522 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 ![]() ![]() |
Hi, thanks for the response. I run World Community Grid, Rosetta and CPDN on my CPUs but have yet to find a GPU project that I want to support and also does not cause massive problems w.r.t. my day-to-day use of the various machines (rendering less than acceptable screen performance). Thanks for your explanation regarding servers, too. I think communication could be much better. I'd like to see some textual explanation on the server status page. At the moment it just says they are down, nothing to explain when they will be back up or much else at all. Communication is at best, poor. You might try the Technical News link on the home page.... "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 11 Apr 08 Posts: 1091 Credit: 2,140,913 RAC: 0 ![]() |
" We'll then leave the projects on through next weekend, ie no normal 3 day outage." doesn´t look like that. |
kittyman ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51522 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 ![]() ![]() |
" We'll then leave the projects on through next weekend, ie no normal 3 day outage." My own hope is that they shall come back up today...... They have probably still been resynching the drive array on bambi to take over the upload duties from bruno and transferring the files. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ![]() |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I hope they defer the half week outage for an extra week -- as they have now had a six day outage (two weeks worth of three day outages). " We'll then leave the projects on through next weekend, ie no normal 3 day outage." ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3377 Credit: 20,676,751 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I have it on good authority that the project will be down right up to the time the boys press the buttons to bring it back up on line again!! :-) Hopefully that will be shortly after they come in to work today but you never know. It all depends on the servers condition and temperament today. In other words the servers will come back up when they dang well feel like it! Did I mention I hate computers?? :-) ![]() PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC |
![]() Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 ![]() |
If you grab a hammer and threaten to destroy it a computer comes up immediately. Just try. Tullio |
WWUUD Send message Joined: 7 Oct 99 Posts: 27 Credit: 4,387,613 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Outages are longer when a venture has too little excess server capacity. All of us who participate do donate through our (only slightly) higher electricity bills, but that donation does not help with the necessary equipment and other costs. As an employee of a state university, I know how much service we wring out of old computer hardware with underpaid staff. While I see several folks on this thread are already contributors, this outage could serve as a reminder for all of us to contribute a few $$$ (as it has for me!). Donations have been meager this year: Donation record Expenses are high, but quite reasonable for such a venture: Fall 2008 budget If everyone will make a small donation, it will help the bottom line a bit, and hopefully boost morale a lot around the SETI office... My 2 cents' worth, - Earl ![]() |
JohnDK ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 1222 Credit: 451,243,443 RAC: 1,127 ![]() ![]() |
Reminder to all, don't forget to suspend network activity through the outage. Not possible when doing backup projects... |
Robert Ribbeck ![]() Send message Joined: 7 Jun 02 Posts: 644 Credit: 5,283,174 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Reminder to all, don't forget to suspend network activity through the outage. Won't suspending seti stop seti's network activity ![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Reminder to all, don't forget to suspend network activity through the outage. I just don't see the good in that. If they are going to have outages then they have to prepare for the hits when they come back on line. Hopefully they will learn to adjust, but it shouldn't be a users responsibility... Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 8 Dec 05 Posts: 630 Credit: 59,973,836 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Don't have to, it's just common sense to save wasting time... Anyway, the servers have just come up! :-) |
Dave Send message Joined: 29 Mar 02 Posts: 778 Credit: 25,001,396 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Ish... |
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