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Message 1035971 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010, 8:20:42 UTC - in response to Message 1035954.  

And it would go a long way if someone from the project popped in and said "yes we are aware we have a problem.".


Matt and Jeff have been doing exactly that lately, with a reasonable frequency.

If there has been anything since this morning, I missed it.


Does there really need to be more? Matt's post from Thursday pretty much addresses all these issues we've been having since they brought up the servers this week:

There have been some interesting unexpected consequences due to these extended weekly outages. For example, the amount of results hanging out in the mysql database has pretty much doubled (growing slowly but consistently over the past two months), which is causing minor indigestion: the database backups and re-orgs take much longer, and workunits and results are hanging out on disk much longer (and filling up their respective disks). But also some power users are trying to return hundreds, perhaps thousands, of results in a single scheduler request.


(My emphasis added)

And I still see no reason to be frustrated.


This is not minor indigestion we are experiencing. It is a complete lock up with the master server database appearing to be offline. So no, that post from thursday does not address this at all. We have people dropping in and asking, and there are no answers for them. There is more wrong than just full disks. Reports are not going in, so as far as I know the disks will remain full.

... and now that I pull up a fresh page, a bunch of servers are now offline. This is actually promising. Signs of a Master server being online would be even more promising.

I am not angry nor bitter nor terribly upset. But a bit frustrated? Yep.


Feel free to not be frustrated yourself.

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Message 1035975 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010, 8:39:43 UTC - in response to Message 1035971.  

Signs of a Master server being online would be even more promising.

You've been experiencing it all along, as without the master database you cannot post to the forums... they wouldn't even be here. :)

BOINC master database: The mysql database that contains all BOINC related information (user stats, forum messages, basic workunit/result information, etc.).


There's also News:
Our upload (results) storage area is full. The project is down until we resolve this

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Message 1035980 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010, 8:50:47 UTC - in response to Message 1035975.  

Signs of a Master server being online would be even more promising.

You've been experiencing it all along, as without the master database you cannot post to the forums... they wouldn't even be here. :)

BOINC master database: The mysql database that contains all BOINC related information (user stats, forum messages, basic workunit/result information, etc.).


There's also News:
Our upload (results) storage area is full. The project is down until we resolve this


Now that makes it a bit less frustrating. The lantern in the window.
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Message 1035988 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010, 9:08:36 UTC - in response to Message 1035916.  

This SETI thing is getting all f'd up

Could not have put it better meself..........

Although I try now and again.......

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Message 1035993 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010, 9:14:22 UTC

If the sarch for Seti has diminished to looking for ways to find F'd up hardware.......

I'd say we have progressed rapidly. Or would that be vapidly?

Dammit, Jim, I'm a doctor, not a statistician.........
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Message 1036066 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010, 13:13:25 UTC - in response to Message 1035975.  

There's also News:
Our upload (results) storage area is full. The project is down until we resolve this



Those damn lingering ghosts...

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Message 1036071 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010, 13:39:27 UTC - in response to Message 1036066.  

Our upload (results) storage area is full. The project is down until we resolve this

The problem was that from the time the outage "ended" we couldn't Report in. I know this because I was sitting with my finger on the button and tried to Report tasks as soon as the lights went green. Uploads flew faster than I'd ever seen them but Reports with as few as 12 WU's were unable to get through. The Scheduler appeared to be off line from the word go. With the Scheduler out of action the uploaded units had nowhere to go and the system clogged up.

Unfortunately it appears there was no-one in the lab monitoring the startup, otherwise the problem would have been noticed and corrected as it was when a similar thing happened a couple of weeks ago.

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Message 1036076 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010, 13:50:45 UTC
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If you look at the cricket graph and note the blue line which represents data flowing into Berkeley servers.

I would submit that SETI is busy downloading from some offsite storage and the project will not start until whatever is being downloaded is completed.

Which brings up the question, why not do this during the 3 day science fair?
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Message 1036102 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010, 15:11:49 UTC - in response to Message 1036076.  

The blue line is inbound data? Why is it labeled as "average bits out"? How is the Cricket thing set up in relation to s@h?
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Message 1036107 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010, 15:16:56 UTC - in response to Message 1036102.  

The blue line is inbound data? Why is it labeled as "average bits out"? How is the Cricket thing set up in relation to s@h?


It's an ambiguity depending on which way you think is "in" and "out".
From the graph's point of view, "out" is towards Berkeley, "in" is from
Berkely towards the outside world.
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Message 1036110 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010, 15:25:00 UTC - in response to Message 1036076.  

That download seems to have finished now.

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Message 1036130 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010, 16:00:24 UTC - in response to Message 1036110.  

That download seems to have finished now.

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And I have not seen any official explanation for the situation.......
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Message 1036137 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010, 16:09:21 UTC - in response to Message 1036130.  

That download seems to have finished now.

Claggy

And I have not seen any official explanation for the situation.......


I think everybody there leaves @ noon on friday
They just start things back up on the way out
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Message 1036138 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010, 16:10:16 UTC

Probably an offsite backup being restored
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Message 1036150 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010, 16:32:21 UTC - in response to Message 1036130.  

That download seems to have finished now.

Claggy

And I have not seen any official explanation for the situation.......


And you won't Mark but you should know that allready.
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Message 1036153 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010, 16:35:00 UTC - in response to Message 1036150.  

That download seems to have finished now.

Claggy

And I have not seen any official explanation for the situation.......


And you won't Mark but you should know that allready.


Oh, my friend......I get many official explanations before they are posted here......but nothing today.

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