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jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
Hi Mark, I beg to differ in part. While I too hope for a [complete] solution to the ghost problems, I can appreciate the poking around going on here. As some will attest, poking around with things that have little apparent immediate application beyond the obvious is what I do. Some things turn out to be little more than a curiosity, while others later get used as part of some bigger plan. An example from my end includes that my initial playing with Lunatics 2.2 code years ago, with no intention for further development, ended up with the first consistently validating AKv8 Windows ports (with a huge amount of support from others). Another is that the installer development followed playing around with CPU identification code, which already existed, but I needed more specific information for future reasons... and is yet to be included in installer development (but will be one day). I believe it's difficult to predict the possible future usefulness (or lack of) for something, and if only for a learning exercise it is still valuable for that in its own right. There *could be* a means to induce an aborted by user task status, or possibly other marking, iff we know there were ghosts, what the task was called, and can figure out enough detail to bodgey up the client state. I'm not sure if, or how, such a feat might be practical, but my guess is knowing there are ghosts, and their task details might be a reasonable first step. Jason "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Kittyman stands down....... Ghost hunting season is now open. I am not always right....never have been. If it's ghosts you want......well, we got a lot of them hanging around here. The original....... You want ectoplasm,,,,,,you got it. LOL. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Geek@Play Send message Joined: 31 Jul 01 Posts: 2467 Credit: 86,146,931 RAC: 0 |
GOOD kitty! Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc.... |
Eve - Pyro nl Send message Joined: 5 Jul 06 Posts: 57 Credit: 23,044,387 RAC: 0 |
wel im hpy with this prog, its nice to see how many ghost i got and wich pcs i need to detach to fix some problems with them not getting enough work. was alrdy planning to do 1 as it idle for more then 2 days alrdy and now i see why pc 1 - 1062 in progres - 267 on pc - 795 ghosts pc 2 - 1278 - 1036 - 242 pc 3 - 443 - 346 - 97 pc 4 - 451 - 236 - 215 pc 5 - 115 - 84 - 31 thats alot of ghost on some, Joined Seti@home on 20 June 1999 (id:797875) Made This1 to Join the Eve Team http://www.eveonline.com/seti/ |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
GOOD kitty! Oooooooohhh......do I feel a sense of condesention (sp) here? NO, not condensation.......I know that one. ROFLMAO...... "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
perryjay Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3377 Credit: 20,676,751 RAC: 0 |
Well, it's nice to know my efforts have paid off. I'm only showing one ghost on my rig. Now, if there were only some way to find the ghosts on my wingmen's machines and get them done. I've got some that have been sitting for months, going from one timeout to another. PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
Hmmm, HostID = 5199251 4,927 WU 'In Progress' 2,671 WU on board ------------------------ 2,256 Ghost Work Units That's a lot :/ . If things were functioning I'd look at doing a ghostbusters sequence ... Not an option with ~1000 results ready to report though (plus a lot waiting to upload). Jason "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Hmmm, Kinda scary. Ghosts are that...... Do you feel better now that you know they are in your closet? LOL......they will haunt you forever.......You had to open up the freakin' door, didn't you. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
LOL......they will haunt you forever.......You had to open up the freakin' door, didn't you. I really hope the figures aren't representative of the status quo. Never did like their music. [Also I make that about 660MiB for this one host...] "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
LOL......they will haunt you forever.......You had to open up the freakin' door, didn't you. Ooooooooh, popsicle stick rock...... The only had the one hit... and once you hear it, the guitar riffs will haunt you like the ghosts you all seek so deauly. If you wanna sleep at night, do not click the link. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
perryjay Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3377 Credit: 20,676,751 RAC: 0 |
I thought you meant this door... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MPbwncM40M PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
I thought you meant this door... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MPbwncM40M OH my, but that is excellent........thank you. I could post back, but then I would be accused of thread jumping and playing youtube outside of the crunching zone....... "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
perryjay Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3377 Credit: 20,676,751 RAC: 0 |
Gotta have something to do while we're waiting. Just don't get lost in the Phil Harris ones. They can make you laugh so much you'll cry. PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC |
Robert Ribbeck Send message Joined: 7 Jun 02 Posts: 644 Credit: 5,283,174 RAC: 0 |
What happens when you detach & reattach ? Does seti assign you a new machine number ? I realize you need to clear existing wu or loose them so now with the lack of work would be a good time to do it & loose any Ghosts |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
-[ snip ]- Greetings, No problem, Ded1o1, I understand that. I relied on my reserve stash of patience waiting for the download. lol ;) Just thought I would let you know that those with less, little or no patience may not wait around for it. I have the App installed and it found only 1 ghost. Not sure, yet, what is meant by "ghost unit". My interpretation is that it is a WU that has gone through processing and hasn't figured out yet that it is no longer needed and hangs around pestering users. Is that a fair assessment? .oO(Will it EVER stop raining here???) :( Keep on BOINCing...! :) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
perryjay Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3377 Credit: 20,676,751 RAC: 0 |
A ghost unit is one that the server tried to send out to you but it never made it to your computer. The server still thinks it got to you so it will show up on your tasks page but not on your BOINC Manager. They usually come in blocks all sent at the same time. PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
@ ded1o1 1) Add % value for Ghosts e.g.: HostID = 1234567 300 WU 'In Progress' 200 WU on board ------------------------ 100 Ghost Work Units (33%) 2) Suggestion - put the proper (new) link in your signature: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/edit_forum_preferences_form.php (so people who read only the first post do not use the old link) e.g.: _____________ Download GhostDet from this link: http://www.mediafire.com/?yyy64lh5953d7 Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
@ msattler You are right - this program can't correct the Ghost situation by itself. But it makes the first step - gives information in easy and fast way. We (and probably the people in the lab) do not know how much server HDD space is consumed for months by this Ghost problem. If the top crunchers like you use this program and report e.g. "I have ~20000 Ghost tasks assigned to my computers = ~40% of the tasks are Ghosts" the staff will be informed of how big is the problem and will be more determined to resolve it shortly. Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
OH, I can't even imagine the ghosts I have. Nor do I wish to find out at this point. It's a far greater problem than the kittyman can tackle right now. Eric and Matt have the ghosts under their watch. And they will not escape. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
CHARLES JACKSON Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 49 Credit: 39,349,563 RAC: 0 |
Hi, Here what I got on just one computer it may be a record, anyone with more Ghost? HostID = 5171911 5,814 WU 'In Progress' 3,540 WU on board ------------------------ 2,274 Ghost Work Units |
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