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Message 1029129 - Posted: 28 Aug 2010, 3:31:41 UTC - in response to Message 1029124.  


Which is part of the problem. They are cute at that age and become hard to handle in a couple of years. So someone gets a cute tiger kitten for the family forgetting that it will become a full grown tiger in the not too distant future.


I have run into that problem with large pythons. I used to run a state licensed reptile rescue, and often someone would tell us that their Burmese Python got to big. Of course it got to big. They grow from 20 to 27 feet long, and can weigh several hundred pounds. People seldom did the research up front, and ended up with a problem. I can't even think of the number of iguanas people were trying to put into rescue. They were surprised when the cute little green lizard almost took their face off.

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I can't quite remember the formula for the number of people required to handle a constrictor. I believe it was something like 1 person for the first 5 feet and one person for every 3 feet after that.


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Message 1029132 - Posted: 28 Aug 2010, 3:34:12 UTC - in response to Message 1029127.  


Which is part of the problem. They are cute at that age and become hard to handle in a couple of years. So someone gets a cute tiger kitten for the family forgetting that it will become a full grown tiger in the not too distant future.


I have run into that problem with large pythons. I used to run a state licensed reptile rescue, and often someone would tell us that their Burmese Python got to big. Of course it got to big. They grow from 20 to 27 feet long, and can weigh several hundred pounds. People seldom did the research up front, and ended up with a problem. I can't even think of the number of iguanas people were trying to put into rescue. They were surprised when the cute little green lizard almost took their face off.

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Most people are so used to House Cats and Dogs that they think all animals are friendly, Most aren't, Bambi will attack If It feels Yer too close, House Cats are a 3 way Hybrid from the last 5,000 years and Dogs are like about 15,000 years or so in development from Wolves.

Most prey animals will run away if given the chance. They will only attack if threatened and not in a position to just disappear. Predators are a bit different. They will attack if threatened or if they are hungry or ...


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Message 1029133 - Posted: 28 Aug 2010, 3:34:51 UTC - in response to Message 1029129.  

A lot of it has to do with the snake. The 14 foot snake I posted a picture of could be handled by just myself, with someone near by. She was very gentle, unless you were a rabbit. On the other hand, I had the fight of my life with an 8 foot African Rock Python. That was the meanest snake I had ever seen, and that sucker was powerful!

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Message 1029147 - Posted: 28 Aug 2010, 4:10:38 UTC - in response to Message 1029139.  

A lot of it has to do with the snake. The 14 foot snake I posted a picture of could be handled by just myself, with someone near by. She was very gentle, unless you were a rabbit. On the other hand, I had the fight of my life with an 8 foot African Rock Python. That was the meanest snake I had ever seen, and that sucker was powerful!

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Sounds like It had real muscles, Ones body builders never had, But wish they did. :D


I have a Solomon Island Ground Boa named Ollie. The snake is about 3 1/2 feet long, and pound for pound is the strongest snake I have ever seen. Just resting on your arm, the pressure is so great, it's worse than a blood pressure cuff.

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Message 1029356 - Posted: 29 Aug 2010, 1:56:03 UTC
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Hey Steve... I thought I was going to have to call you for help a while ago. I decided to get a jump on grass mowing and hit the north side before dark. While chugging along I stirred up a little old garter snake, about 10 inches long. They're real common around here and usually go into warp 9 and vacate fast. This guy slithered out of the long grass and into the part I'd already mowed and coiled up like a diamond back! Usually when I pick one up they might make a couple lack luster attempts at biting, but they just aren't equipped to do much damage and calm down real quick. This guy tonight however must have been studying to be a rattler. As soon as I picked him up he started striking like lightning! Even without fangs he was hurting my finger with the barrage. I took him over to the rock pile, still getting bit repeatedly, and put him on a busted piece of concrete. Instead of the hasty retreat I expected, he went right back in to the coiled position, giving me the "bring it on, fat man" look. I went back to mowing and after a couple passes he had disappeared. I don't know if I was witnessing evolution in action, or just happened to find a snake having a bad day. Whichever it was, he was a feisty little bugger.
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Message 1029357 - Posted: 29 Aug 2010, 2:09:29 UTC - in response to Message 1029356.  

Hmmm, in South East Asia they have a Green Pit Viper. Looks a lot like a common green snake but deadly. Wonder if anyone had one as a pet?


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Message 1029838 - Posted: 31 Aug 2010, 3:09:41 UTC - in response to Message 1029832.  

Well lets see, I have a couple things to report on here:

1. I'm having DSL Trouble, I can barely reach the forum here, I have a trouble ticket open with DSL Extreme, I installed a new Comtrend DSL modem and cables and It's not much better than My old setup. I can forget about uploading WU's as I just get HTTP Errors from My DSL.

2. Grace finally did It, She bit not once, But twice into the electrical cable for the light under the counter, Yeah She jumped back twice, So I think She may have got the idea that those wires bite back when bitten, Thankfully I have another lamp of the same type If I need to replace the lamp, As the damage is very light. :D

Re-wiring a lamp is also pretty easy and much cheaper than buying a new one.


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Message 1029839 - Posted: 31 Aug 2010, 3:14:29 UTC

A critter, well 4 I believe, not seen here before.

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Message 1029856 - Posted: 31 Aug 2010, 4:25:38 UTC
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Nice jellyfish shot Gary! Eric and I love Monterey. Our first trip there together was for our "honeymoon on a budget" in 1994, when Eric was still a starving doctoral student and I was his "sugar-mama". Despite my getting a horrible case of poison oak on our first trip there together (Yikes! Don't touch me!!! - what a honeymoon....), we have returned to Monterey several times over the years to enjoy the beautiful coast there.
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Message 1029873 - Posted: 31 Aug 2010, 5:41:41 UTC
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Edging ever closer to the creepy crawly fringe, here's photo of a never before seen "blue 7 legged spider, photographed by a retired biology teacher, outside her home in Batley, W Yorkshire.

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But to me, blue didn't seem to fit. So I fired up The Gimp and in just a few minutes I added to the fleet. Red, green, LSD, and original blue. Me thinks the original is...ummm... exaggerated.
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Message 1030115 - Posted: 2 Sep 2010, 3:01:57 UTC

It's beginning to look a lot like Halloween
Everywhere you go
There are spiders within the thread
Green, LSD and red
The creepy kind that have an eerie glow

It's beginning to look a lot like Halloween
Ghouls will whine all night
And the thing that will make them wail
Is the way that you turn pale
When those spiders bite!
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Message 1030152 - Posted: 2 Sep 2010, 7:50:38 UTC

Wooo!


Wooo!

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Oh, blimey I've just hit the wall. Now I'll need to walk and I look like a ...
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Message 1030298 - Posted: 3 Sep 2010, 0:25:44 UTC

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Message 1030315 - Posted: 3 Sep 2010, 1:24:49 UTC - in response to Message 1030305.  

I have come to the conclusion that I have a stupid stray cat, She likes scooping food out of Her bowl whether It's canned or dry, She has stopped using both scratching posts and I'm getting more and more fed up as She continues to wake Me up real early between 3am and 6am depriving Me of sleep as She lays on Her back and scratches at the bottom of My box spring mattress above Her, I've sprayed water at Her, It drives Her off for a bit, Then the next night It's rinse and repeat once again, Last night I put Her in the bathroom after I'd emptied It of anything She could try and play with or pull down and I added the bedroom scratching post, In the bathroom I could hear Her use It once again and yes She clawed at the carpet and at the door wanting out, I'm really tempted to just shove Her out the door and without a collar, If She wants to be a stray, fine, I've had It up to My neck.


Vic---please.... If you can't tolerate the cat, for God's sake, please take her back to a shelter. You got a young cat--we warned you she was going to test you and you're obviously not up to this.


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Message 1030317 - Posted: 3 Sep 2010, 1:53:59 UTC

No the spray can be a deterrent if used repeatedly at appropriate times.



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Message 1030321 - Posted: 3 Sep 2010, 2:12:30 UTC - in response to Message 1030318.  
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She was a stray, possibly abandoned,she doesn't know she is being bad. Using the spray bottle and saying no firmly will finally get the idea through to her. She just has to learn what is and isn't allowed. You might try a citrus scented cleaner or the like on the places you want her to stay away from. Cats don't like the smell. That and putting some catnip on and around her scratching post. She won't understand being locked in the bathroom, that will just scare her.

Oh, after she stops doing whatever after you tell her no be sure to praise her to reinforce the idea she is doing good. Treats help in training too if you can afford a small package of them.


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Message 1030334 - Posted: 3 Sep 2010, 2:43:41 UTC - in response to Message 1030332.  

A Cat and a Raccoon, Both are not too camera shy, Nice Pic there Soft^spirit.


No kidding. What a great photo! You won't see that very often.
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Message 1030335 - Posted: 3 Sep 2010, 2:46:15 UTC - in response to Message 1030334.  

A Cat and a Raccoon, Both are not too camera shy, Nice Pic there Soft^spirit.


No kidding. What a great photo! You won't see that very often.


Thanks to Angelas hospitality .. even let me borrow her cat! ;) Oh.. And Uli's grapes!

I have seen cats and raccoons peacefully co-exist, as well as cats and skunks. When it gets down to the last bit of kibble though, all bets are off.
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